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Post by Gezza on Mar 2, 2012 20:22:44 GMT 1
30TH SEPTEMBER - KERNKRAFT 4000- Zombie Nation (2 wks)There is little doubt that this one of the big dance records of late 2000, and little doubt that I HATED this song at the time. Dull, Repetitive music for people on drugs was my opinion in 2000, and now? Well pretty much the same to be honest, coupled with the abomonation of Mariah Carey and Westlife at No 1 made the charts of the time an occasion to weep for the death of music as we knew it have no fear though, for by the time we reach the end of 2000 depths will have been plummeted which were unthought of by Zombie Nation. An "underground" hit as they say in Europe in late 1999 before the techno hit (that term seems so 2 Unlimited circa 93 but hey ho) made a splash over here, there isn't a lot of positives that can be said here sadly, apart from I suppose that they never troubled the top 20 again.
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Post by vastar iner on Mar 2, 2012 20:38:13 GMT 1
It would be interesting to re-do the charts from past years by going back to people buying the records and asking if they still like them.
I bet that things would not change much from the sixties, seventies or eighties.
I bet in the late nineties and 2000s it would be utter decimation.
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Post by Gezza on Mar 2, 2012 20:42:05 GMT 1
21ST OCTOBER- KIDS- Kylie Minogue & Robbie Williams (1 wk)I know I'm a Kylie fan, but there is something emminently unloveable about "Kids". It Should work on several fronts, that uplifting chorus, teaming up with just about pop's biggest star of the time, some cheeky and suggestive lyrics, even a raunhy video, but it all seems a bit forced. Always feeling more like a Robbie record than a Kylie song might account for it, but what I suspect is also at play here is that the whole thing seems to misunderstand the sexual appeal of Kylie. As previously mentioned the relaunch of Minogue in 2000 was aimed in part at the FHM crowd which probably led to her appearance here, but Minogue's appeal has always seemed steeped in a much more innocent appeal, and alluding to oral sex (for example) seems just somehow not right. "Kids" seems like a retrospective step back to "Impossible Princess" and that Indie/ Rock experimentation that the public had by and large failed to connect with, I think this is the kind of song that Minogue would have liked doing but there isn't a lot of connection or sexual chemistry between Williams and Minogue for two stars who had traded on the sex appeal of their public persona's for many years and that's what probably rings untrue here. It's almost like they have to do this duet to fill a contractual obligation in some bizarre divorce ritual for former lovers, proof that not everything on paper can turn out to be music gold.
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Post by vastar iner on Mar 2, 2012 22:08:07 GMT 1
...there is something emminently unloveable about "Kids". I'd start with the performers. More talent in a stagnant puddle.
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Post by borneoman on Mar 2, 2012 23:32:13 GMT 1
Zombie Nation = worst song ever!!
Kids was also very disappointing to me, think they could have come with a better song for that duet!!
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Post by vastar iner on Mar 3, 2012 0:11:03 GMT 1
"I Die, You Die"?
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Post by Gezza on Mar 3, 2012 13:23:13 GMT 1
28TH OCTOBER- WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?- Ba-Ha Men (2 wks)THIS record is musical marmite, it was at the time and remains so. For my part it has to class as one of the worse records of the entire decade! It started off as a song used in the Trinidad & Tobago carnival of 1998 before making its way back to the UK with the tourists where it founds its way to the ears of one Jonathan King (can we still say his name?) where he recorded a version in 1999 under the name Fatt Jakk & his pack of pets. Needless to say that went nowhere though it was heard by one of King's friend who thought it might just be the ticket for a new group he was promoting called the Ba-ha Men (they all hailed from the Bahamas- gettit) and tragically it became a hit. Sporting an unusual chart trajectory of 12-14-2 the song came to life thanks in part to a TOTP performance which saw the "novelty" value of the record cement intself in the mind of the great British public and the release of "Rugrats in Paris" the soundtrack of which featured the track (It was with grim apropos that the song sat at No 2 in November 2000, the same month that King himself was arrested on charges of sexual assault). Anyway it has to be the most annoying song in quite literally forever to grace the charts, so much so that I couldn't even listen to the whole thing through on the clip below, although it sold over 700k so clearly my finger was not on the pulse on this one.
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Post by Gezza on Mar 3, 2012 13:40:01 GMT 1
4TH NOVEMBER- I'M OVER YOU- Martine McCutcheon (1 wk)After the direness of the last song, here's something to brighten up the day. As sassy a piece of pop a la 2000 as you could wish for and proved that McCutcheon could do life after Eastenders. Of course it wasn't her first foray into pop having recorded a rather forgettable dance track in the mid 90s, but after getting run over by Frank Butcher at Xmas 98 she had launched herself as a sophisticated popstar with the No 1 "Perfect Moment" in 1999. This was the comeback and would have returned her to No 1 but for the far bigger comeback of the Spice Girls who were in danger of being caught by her. An ordinary tale of being a sucker in a relationship for a looker who deceives poor Martine, she's OVAH him, oh yes, and more of it if it produce this kind of track. Production wise it is SOOOO 2000, but I can't help love it all the more for it, a shame indeed the she abandoned the pop world to appear in films and Activia adverts but hey ho, this is the best track she ever did.
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Post by borneoman on Mar 3, 2012 13:55:47 GMT 1
Who Lets The Dogs Out is a silly record. Cannot imagine why people bought it??
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Post by Smurfie on Mar 3, 2012 14:05:15 GMT 1
I LOVED I'm Over You. It was easily her best track that she released. There was a point that I was expecting much bigger things for Martine in the Hollywood world of acting when she got the Love Actually gig - instead she ended up flogging yogurts.
And yes, Who Let The Dogs Out is dreadful. Even more the fact it ended up (still to this day) being used as an insult.
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Post by greendemon on Mar 3, 2012 21:24:26 GMT 1
i loved 'freestyler' and 'who let the dogs out' when they came out! disclaimer: i was 13
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 3, 2012 22:09:27 GMT 1
I don't remember Zombie Nation at all. I do remember 2000 as having nearly a new #1 every week. Two of them did top my chart though, unlike 2001 which became the first year in which none of them did. There will however be a #2 from the early part of 2001 that did top my chart and will be in this topic.
Who Let The Dogs Out was a bit "silly". However I did know the song because towards the end of 2000 I got into Napster and was able to steal music, and at that point nobody seemed to care. Quite strange really, but I think it's because singles sales were at a near peak, and then started to drop the following year.
I quite like Kids, although not as much as his earlier songs. "Sing When You're Winning" was a slightly disappointing album. Robbie Williams is similar to George Michael in that both have done two songs with the same title, one as part of a group and one outside the group.
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Post by borneoman on Mar 4, 2012 9:35:29 GMT 1
^^What do you mean that Who Let The Dogs Out is used as an insult??
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Post by Gezza on Mar 4, 2012 13:29:11 GMT 1
^^What do you mean that Who Let The Dogs Out is used as an insult?? Apparently on the football terraces, replace the word "dogs" with an appropriate team themed reference et voila!....
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Post by Gezza on Mar 4, 2012 13:46:15 GMT 1
25TH NOVEMBER- ONE MORE TIME- Daft Punk (1 wk)I was never a big fan of Daft punk circa 1997 I have to confess, but I loved "One More Time", and incessant call to the dancefloor which works along the lines of Alice Deejay back in 1999 in so much as there isn't much going on lyrically yet what it alludes to is so great. You know, that end of the evening feeling when "one more drink" seems like the best idea EVER! or the feeling that you don't want a great night to end, it's a joyous record without heeding to the stresses of the working day or the troubles of life. Some music tries to be tribal, about being divisive, saying one genre is better or cooler than the other, "One More Time" is the opposite, it's about the transcendency of dance music to appeal to all and to unite just at a time when music had started to diverge and become about niche acts competing. Music in the 90s and 80s, whilst of course offering diversity, had great "movements" in them (Brit pop, S/A/W, New Romantics, Madchester) in a way that the noughties didn't, partly because of the way music started to be consumed (i-tunes offering far more choice than a record store ever could) and partly through the increasing and unavoidable nature of the international music market, but this all had a knock on effect of breaking down "chart hegemony" if ever there was such a thing. All of these things are of course a sideshow to the main point, that the song is flipping great, deceptively simple it showed that to make great pop you don't have to be clever or have major publicity behind you, just capturing a moment perfectly can (almost) take you to No 1.
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Post by Gezza on Mar 4, 2012 13:58:30 GMT 1
30TH DECEMBER- WHAT MAKES A MAN- Westlife (1 wk)And here we are at the end of 2000 and tell me now- who DIDN'T have a smile on their face when this failed to make No 1? I know I did even though Bob The Builder was a worse record) but I have to say this is far from being the worse Westlife record, indeed it's probably a great deal better than most of thier No 1 singles which I know isn't saying much. All the standard Westlife devices here the key change, the drippy ballad and the stirring orchestration and Mark clearly being given all the bits that require the big notes, so it's certainly nothing exceptional, but I suspect the joy at this losing out comes from the fact that it wasn't a song by them that went straight to No 1 (unlike the first 7 releases) and a No 1 that they couldn't manipulate via the release schedule, having said that it still sold 230k to debut at No 2, a guaranteed No 1 single in any other week of the year. It short this probably did deserve No 1 status over some of their other tracks but this is a little piece of pop karma.
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Post by borneoman on Mar 4, 2012 14:36:43 GMT 1
big Daft Punk fan myself... love One More Time although I prefer the 97 singles (Da Funk and Around the World)!! I did have the smile when Westlife failed to #1
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 4, 2012 17:19:29 GMT 1
Nothing wrong with Bob The Builder as the theme music to the kids TV show, nor even the Teletubbies theme. Turning a one-minute song into a 3-minute single though doesn't really work musically, but of course they know it will sell loads as people will buy it as a Christmas present for their young children who are just about old enough to enjoy receiving such a gift.
I don't think "What Makes A Man" is that good a song. It's better than their duet with Mariah Carey.
At this point Eminem produces a shock in my chart by filling an otherwise blank chart profile with a 7-week number one.
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Post by vastar iner on Mar 4, 2012 17:25:30 GMT 1
I know I did even though Bob The Builder was a worse record) I beg to differ.
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Post by Gezza on Mar 4, 2012 17:29:43 GMT 1
I know I did even though Bob The Builder was a worse record) I beg to differ. Vas in "Dislikes Westlife record" shocker!
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