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Post by vastar iner on Mar 19, 2012 19:21:17 GMT 1
Nope Snoop Dogg back in 92 I'm afraid Snoop's use of "bootylicious" is already obsolete, he used it to mean weak. The first use in modern parlance is from an Idaho newspaper two years later.
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Post by thehitparade on Mar 19, 2012 23:29:35 GMT 1
For years I thought 'Bootylicious' was based on 'Eye Of The Tiger'. But it isn't. In fact, if you look closely, Stevie Nicks is in the video.
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Post by Gezza on Mar 19, 2012 23:50:44 GMT 1
yes she's in the video, and it was based on Eye of the tiger initially but they didn't get clearance for the sample.
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Post by borneoman on Mar 20, 2012 11:49:19 GMT 1
just read the wiki entry for the Bootylicious song and really has all kind of interesting/fascinating facts!!!!
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Post by Gezza on Mar 21, 2012 20:43:15 GMT 1
20TH OCTOBER- YOU ROCK MY WORLD- Michael Jackson (1 wk)The sight of Jackson as some kind of Romeo has always been a slightly amusing and faintly ridiculous notion but it's the role he once more adopts in this video. All the trademarks are here, the vocal hooks, the sharp production (courtesy of Darkchild amongst others) and it's as smooth and polished affair as you'd expect but herein lies the problem, it's EXACTLY what you'd expect, and not the best example of it either considering he'd had 6 years to come up with a new studio album. Of course such a time period isn't unusual for Jackson who was regularly taking 4-5 years to make an album and whilst "Invincible" isn't a bad album there's something definitely missing from the period, he isn't concentrating here and that's why he's on autopilot. In may have been his off the charts troubles or some unknown cause but "You Rock My World" must surely, by 2001, be named in irony for the once biggest pop star in the world, the album becoming his first studio album to not feature a No 1 single since "Off The Wall" back 1979, the fact that the album was abandoned after just two releases should give you an indication of record company faith here. To go out with a fizzle is a sad end (and this is the last point that he really is a popstar), but a defeated pop star, which is how he looked circa 2001 is a spectacle best unseen.
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Post by Gezza on Mar 21, 2012 20:54:51 GMT 1
10TH NOVEMBER- RAPTURE- Iio (1 wk)Originally a duo this song has recently made a re-appearance in the top 40 for original group member Nadia Ali. A rather innocuous dance record that instantly transports you back 10 years it reminds of clubbing days but above and beyond that I wasn't overly loving it back then and indeed I don't think i ever heard it played (or wanted to hear it) since. For some songs you neither love nor hate and that's where I'm at with "Rapture" the light female vocal over a whistful dance backing had been over used well and truly by this point and the track does nothing to lift itself above the melee, it certainly won't burn your ears either though!
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Post by borneoman on Mar 21, 2012 22:43:51 GMT 1
love Rapture... never get tired of this kinda light-hearted type of dance song with female vocals
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Post by vastar iner on Mar 21, 2012 23:05:55 GMT 1
My reaction to many of these songs is that of Father Dougal at 14 minutes here. On listening to them now, they're, well, dreadful...
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Post by Gezza on Mar 22, 2012 21:37:51 GMT 1
15TH DECEMBER- MURDER ON THE DANCEFLOOR- Sophie Ellis- Bextor (2 wks)Just how fabulous is MOTD (not Match of the day!), a real pop gem full of infectious hooks and a breakdown that shimmies its way to the floor just to clear it and take centre stage. Undoubtedly one of the finest things she came up with (without the aid of the Freemasons I may add) it was an unexpected winter warmer that made Xmas that year just a little more glitter filled. Ellis-Bextor's vocals, again delivered almost in cut glass English is perfect for the jagged catty and determined lyrics, backed up with a fantastic video that almost takes the lyrics at face value in her attempt to win a dance off. Of course it's a little bit camp but hey ho that's the fun surely, much more immediate and quite frankly better than her Cher cover it rightly became her signature hit, as an excercise in how to deliver a high end pop product this is indeed a master class.
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Post by andrew07 on Mar 22, 2012 21:50:23 GMT 1
I remember an interview with Sophie and she explained that Michael's "You Rock My World" video was inspired by her video for "Take Me Home", which he had seen and had loved the 50's style of it.
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Post by Gezza on Mar 22, 2012 21:55:08 GMT 1
29TH DECEMBER- HOW WONDERFUL YOU ARE- Gordon Haskell (1 wk)Whilst he'd performed with some of the greats in the 60s Haskell had been on the pub/ club circuit for some 20 yrs by time this song was plucked from obscurity by another one of those 00s trends- the rise of Radio 2. Used by Johnny Walker on his show it was an unlikely contender for the festive chart topper and Haskell did a last minute busking concert to push the single but no avail. Not a song I cares for I'm afraid, boring and almost dirgey ( ?) it sounds like it's performed in some smokey bar in London by the guy who likes a drink a little too much. In a way it's nice that relatively uncommercial songs like this could still be big hits just 10 years ago, but really we're all struggling to recall this- a shame for what is the showcase week of the year charts wise.
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Post by borneoman on Mar 22, 2012 22:23:45 GMT 1
love the SBE song so much!!!!! great classic!!!
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Post by vastar iner on Mar 22, 2012 23:18:10 GMT 1
Don't like the Haskell song at all but wish it would have been Christmas number one because it would have shown that anyone could make it... And SBE singing about burning the gosh-darned playhouse down makes her sound like a Roedean girl trying to fit in in Bermondsey.
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Post by vya on Mar 23, 2012 0:20:52 GMT 1
Two years in....and well, what a lot of mediocrity. And a lot of utter rubbish too.
Samantha Mumba and Moloko stand head and shoulders - HEAD AND SHOULDERS I tell you - above the rest.
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Post by Gezza on Mar 25, 2012 13:03:38 GMT 1
19TH JANUARY 2002- ADDICTED TO BASS- Puretone (1 wk)A record that really shouldn't have been in this thread at all. Were it not for a leak on the saturday before its official release which saw some 809 copies sold and a debut position of No 68, this song would have leapfrogged over Aaliyah posthumous chart topper "More Like A Woman" which won the race for the top by 595 copies this week, but all this is chart history. Originally a top 20 hit in their native Australia in 1998 it took 4 years to maek it around the world during which time a new video was filmed for it based on the "Mad Max" film and really was a case of word spreading by mouth for most of its long gestation period. I know a lot of people love this track, it's just never been more than OK for me though. January is always a dire month when the record industry has a collective hangover and nothing much gets released, it was always, until the download age, the month when either new acts were broke or when dance tracks found it easier to chart, less competition and the big guns had usually gone for the Xmas No 1 and the associated sales. It is perhaps the most fitting comment to end with that no other track by the group troubled the top 20.
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Post by Gezza on Mar 25, 2012 13:21:31 GMT 1
26TH JANUARY- GET THE PARTY STARTED- P!nk (2 wks)I'm probably gonna get hate mail for this but I can't stand this track. Annoyingly cloying record that seems to me quite vacuous in its sentiment, written by linda Perry (Ex- 4 Non Blondes) she confesses that she slung every cliche and soundbite into writing what she termed a "Fun" record and there is no disputing its a catchy number, but I do recall at the time (and again probably due to the fact it was released in a dull January) it was drasically over played at the time which may account for me hatred. I don't actually mind Pink though a lot of her tracks are very love/ hate for me and for every good song she produces there are three or four which appear to be more or less carbon copies of it, but this isn't her best. What I suspect attracts most people to her is exactly what I find kinda artificial, that sassy agressive feminism that seems to be a little too dominating, and sometimes forced. This makes her, for me, a hard popstar to love (maybe not being a repressed female is affecting this) but her role as the Jo Brand of pop, a title she probably shares with Beyonce on that front, never makes me quite sure whether I'm meant to like her or not, am I her audience? In conclusion maybe Pink and I need to talk.
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 25, 2012 13:59:04 GMT 1
Firstly far and away the best #2 of 2001 was Teenage Dirtbag...
In the pattern of releases, Michael Jackson was 2 years late. We were expecting an album every 2 years: Off The Wall (1979), Thriller (1983), Bad (1987), Dangerous (1991) and History (1995). So we were expecting one in 1999?
I think Michael Jackson felt that pressure too. Was pressured to release something and continue his career. It would have been nice of course for him to just be able to retire on a job well done at this point, except if I recall he was nearly bankrupt.
I don't think there is any particular age at which one should retire and Michael Jackson was 41 in 1999 and 43 in 2001 which is certainly not "too old". I mean, he's the same age as Madonna (2 weeks older) although of course his career started a lot earlier than hers, and she had released some well-below-par material herself.
It looked to me that the MJ material was there just because he felt pressured to write and release something.
As for "Get The Party Started", I prefer Shirley Bassey's version to Pink's. I like Pink's own songs Just Like A Pill, So What and Raise Your Glass.
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Post by vastar iner on Mar 25, 2012 15:00:45 GMT 1
26TH JANUARY- GET THE PARTY STARTED- P!nk (2 wks)I'm probably gonna get hate mail for this but I can't stand this track. Not from me, P!nk has TREMENDOUS vocal chops and has come up with some excellent singles, but this was a dire, cynical cash-in with no depth or integrity whatsoever. One of the great musical disappointments.
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Post by borneoman on Mar 25, 2012 16:19:21 GMT 1
well, the only good thing about Get The Party Started is that it put Pink in the map did the job!!! after that, everyone knew her and she could hook up with better songwriters... cos I don't think she writes her own stuff, she co-writes, which is not the same thing. I love some Pink, especially the slowies like Who Knew, Perfect and I Don't Believe You (my #1 probably, which of course is her only flop sinlge) really liked the Puretone song, not super love it, but was pretty good!
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 25, 2012 16:57:39 GMT 1
how did it put her "in the map"? She had already had 3 top 10 hits before this one and had featured on that Lady Marmalade #1 with other artists.
It's always difficult to know how much the artist actually wrote in "co-writes" unless you can detect a writing style that is common across their work even with different collaborators. Both her solo #1s have her as a co-credit: "Just Like A Pill" (co-written with Dallas Austin) and "So What" (co-written with Max Martin and Shellback).
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