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Post by raliverpool on Nov 7, 2015 18:20:14 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/nov/07/future-of-the-x-factor-in-doubt-as-itv-poaches-the-voice-from-bbcThe forthcoming fifth series, which starts early next year, will be the last on BBC1 after it emerged the flagship Saturday night offering has been acquired by ITV. “We always said we wouldn’t get into a bidding war or pay inflated prices to keep the show, and it’s testament to how the BBC has built the programme up – and established it into a mainstay of the Saturday night schedule – that another broadcaster has poached it,” said Mark Linsey, BBC acting director of television. Faced will falling ratings despite a much-publicised revamp this year, the commercial broadcaster could axe The X Factor now that it has secured the rights to The Voice. It is unlikely to want a second singing contest in its schedules in addition to Britain’s Got Talent. There are suggestions that Sky could acquire The X Factor if ITV decided to axe the show. The X Factor has been strongly outrated this year by Strictly Come Dancing on BBC1. Last Sunday’s results show attracted nearly 10 million viewers, while The X Factor slumped to an all time 11-year low of just 5.6 million last Saturday. A BBC source said that ITV offered more money for the show and that it was not in the interest of licence fee payers for the corporation to try to outbid it. Offloading The Voice could also help the BBC deflect criticism that the public broadcaster should not be running a show that closely resembles programming mounted by its commercial rivals. Considering Syco (Simon Cowell's) X Factor contract expires after the next series in 2016 and ITV will be showing The Voice in 2017, then what are your thoughts about ITV buying the most successful and popular worldwide singing talent franchise away from the BBC?
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Post by suedehead on Nov 7, 2015 18:26:40 GMT 1
It would seem odd if ITV stuck with three talent shows. Britain's Got Talent has held its audience better than XF (and has more variety), so it would make more sense to dump XF.
With the BBC under serious budget constraints, they are always going to be in danger of losing shows if they don't own the format.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 18:32:41 GMT 1
Oh please let it be true that X Factor will be axed, they should do that with the Voice too
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Post by Mic1812 on Nov 8, 2015 15:54:25 GMT 1
I wouldnt be surprised if the idea of starting the year with The Voice then running into Britains Got Talent and then finishing with The X Factor is on the agenda.
Ideally just keep Britains Got Talent but just keep it to British people and citizens and not open to people abroad.
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Post by Mart!n on Nov 8, 2015 19:46:10 GMT 1
I don't know why everyone has a go at the X Factor, as its a great platform for artists to promote their music without it album and single sales will be far lower for the time of the year. Yes we know the show has passed its sell by date, unless they replace it with another music reality show for acts to showcase their music.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2015 20:07:36 GMT 1
You said it yourself, because it's had it's sell by date
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Post by borneoman on Nov 8, 2015 20:10:10 GMT 1
but the only alternative is the voice?? cannot they find something else/better? think the voice is as dated as xf
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2015 20:21:47 GMT 1
The Voice is way worse than X Factor
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Post by raliverpool on Nov 8, 2015 20:32:45 GMT 1
but the only alternative is the voice?? cannot they find something else/better? think the voice is as dated as xf The Voice franchise only started in Holland in 2010, and is currently showing or going to be shown in 47 different countries/franchises. In contrast the format of X-Factor which started in the UK in 2004, is dying internationally Chelsea FC style with it currently showing or going to be shown in 14 different countries/franchises, down from its peak of 43 countries/franchises in 2011. The main reason for it being that most nations have found the newer pretender (The Voice) to be a far better and enjoyable TV music show format, which has generated higher ratings, probably as it is more about being positive and encouraging towards the acts, so encouraging a higher quality of talented singers to audition, than the far more abrasive negative X-Factor which is basically a music show equivalent of WWE meets Big Brother wannabes who can sing or perform. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2015 20:38:07 GMT 1
Acts from the Voice don't do very well in the UK charts
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Post by raliverpool on Nov 8, 2015 20:48:47 GMT 1
The Voice is way worse than X Factor Really. Then why is it being shown in over three times as many countries as X-Factor? And if it is worse than X-Factor, then how come the average of the "flop BBC show" Voice UK's last series was 8.56 million; whilst this series of X-Factor is currently averaging 7.12 million, with its last few shows rating significantly lower than that getting beaten by the likes of Countryfile; and The Antiques Roadshow; let alone getting annihilated by Strictly Come Dancing; & last week got it's lowest ever rating for a live show in its 12 series history. Or are you the sort of person who loves baying rude Jeremy Kyle style audiences; a blatantly manipulated talent show, full of appalling editing; autotune; and bullshit stories planted in the tabloid media; whilst some Geordie who can't sing for toffee lecturing others how to sing; an A&R guy responsible for such music giants as Robson & Jerome; Zig & Zag; dropping Kylie Minogue; and passing on the option of signing Robbie Williams to a solo career contract who has now become an over botoxed unshaven parody of what he once was; a DJ nicknamed as "the Grimmy Reaper" because everything he presents/is on ends up losing viewers/listeners; and a poor UK version of Rihanna. |
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Post by raliverpool on Nov 8, 2015 20:52:39 GMT 1
Acts from the Voice don't do very well in the UK charts Well it is on the BBC, and the BBC as a PSB are not allowed to do 3/4 months advertising for a product unlike broadcasting companies who carry adverts are due to strict guidelines and regulations. And if they did could you imagine what the Daily Mail which is owned by the same company that owns ITN (ITV); The Sun & The Times which is owned by the same company which owns Sky TV; and numerous Conservative & UKIP politicians would say about it. |
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Post by vastar iner on Nov 8, 2015 20:58:53 GMT 1
Acts from the Voice don't do very well in the UK charts Well it is on the BBC, and the BBC as a PSB are not allowed to do 3/4 months advertising for a product unlike broadcasting companies who carry adverts are due to strict guidelines and regulations. The regulations frankly are not strict enough. X Factor is a 20 week primetime advert for Sony. Why are they not made to pay for it? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2015 21:07:47 GMT 1
Excuse me for having an opinion
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Post by borneoman on Nov 9, 2015 8:14:06 GMT 1
I think the smart move from ITV would have been to get The Voice 5 years ago when it started, now it's too late imho
and agree, the Voice doesn't make stars anywhere in the world, it's just a way to promo the judges as seen in the US... how's benefitted the most? Adam Levine by far far far.... not any of the contestants
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Post by halsteady on Nov 9, 2015 8:41:05 GMT 1
The word is that X Factor will be moving to Sky next year
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Post by Earl Purple on Nov 9, 2015 11:48:31 GMT 1
I'd be interested to know if the Sunday night X-Factor show has a higher a viewing figure than the Saturday night one.
The Saturday night show is just the contestants singing dull cover versions according to some theme, often sung badly. The Sunday show contains celebrities performing, and although there are the "sing-offs" you can either switch off that point (or do something else) or at least listen to them doing the songs they want to do (and the judges always say they do their sing-off songs better than their actual performances).
I would make the show more interesting, myself. I wouldn't have a "sing-off" and the bottom act would go out. However every contestant would have prepared for them an "original" song, that they have a hand in writing. As they are eliminated, they perform their song, which then goes on sale.
As the football now begins at 9pm I have no real interest in watching the X-Factor and have more useful things to do in that hour.
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Post by Jordan on Nov 9, 2015 18:59:28 GMT 1
I'd be all for this if the Voice was actually capable of launching talent into successful careers. But even with a ready-made star like Tyler James they failed miserably, not to mention having Leon Jackson-type winners like that Leanne girl.
Currently though, X Factor is still able to potentially launch careers with Fleur East looking good to debut in the top 10 on Friday.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Nov 10, 2015 1:17:32 GMT 1
They are both sh*te. It's like arguing over the best way to die
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Post by LT on Nov 10, 2015 11:59:11 GMT 1
even if it does go, it will only appear on another rival channel.
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