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Post by Robbie on Sept 16, 2017 20:41:25 GMT 1
Another managerial casualty: Birmingham City have sacked manager Harry Redknapp after an atrocious run of form for the club in which they have lost 6 games in a row in all competitions.
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Post by Earl Purple on Sept 18, 2017 10:04:55 GMT 1
In 2012 Harry Redknapp was seen as a potential England manager and was doing reasonably well at Tottenham. He was also in court for financial issues.
He got acquitted at court but didn't get appointed as England manger, Spurs had a slump to drop to 4th and didn't qualify for the Champions League because Chelsea qualified ahead of them through winning it and he lost his job.
Subsequently he failed at QPR and now again at Birmingham.
How fortunes can change...
Not that Roy's have really gone any better. He was manager at West Brom at the time who didn't have quite as high expectations as Spurs. But he'd failed at Liverpool who did have high expectations and then failed with England. Euro 2012 itself wasn't a disaster but the World Cup 2014 was, and in Euro 2016 England were knocked out by Iceland...
In any case, he's lost his first game at home to Southampton and has the two Manchesters coming up. Still there is light at the end of the tunnel... after those two games they take on Chelsea so that will probably be 3 points..
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Post by Shireblogger on Sept 18, 2017 12:36:45 GMT 1
The only people who ever thought Harry Redknapp was any good were the hacks at a few of the tabloids, with whom he'd go drinking.
As a manager, he was allowed to bankrupt Southampton and Portsmouth. And he has caused relegations for Bournemouth, Southampton, Portsmouth and QPR. His supposed success at Tottenham and Portsmouth was based on an unsustainable business model - namely signing dozens of over-the-hill players on exorbitant contracts and hoping a few of them come good for a season. Only at West Ham did he really achieve anything notable, and that was because he was lucky enough to walk in just as some really talented youngsters were graduating from their academy.
Birmingham have just had to settle a 3 year contract, which won't have been cheap given it was Harry Redknapp. And they have the legacy of the 14 players he signed, including Cheikh N'Doye (31), David Stockdale (31) and Craig Gardner (30). They have a 32 player first team squad and are bottom-but-one in the league.
It was completely predictable, and Birmingham's board have no-one to blame but themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 14:49:22 GMT 1
Birmingham are an example of a relgated from the Premier League club, only to go onto a downward spiral from there. They were lucky not to go down to League 1 a few years ago.
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Post by Earl Purple on Sept 18, 2017 15:06:11 GMT 1
I think Redknapp did well at Tottenham. They had potential but under Jaunde Ramoz they came mid-table in 2008 with no defence but thanks to the lethal pair of Keane and Berbatov scoring loads of goals particularly against the lower placed teams, like beating Reading 6-4 in a game. Yes, they won the League Cup, when in the semi-final that pair proved too much for Arsenal's reserves, and I guess they got a bit lucky in the final.
Anyway, at the start of the 2008 season they sold both of those and were bottom with just 2 points.
He came along and his first two fixtures if I recall were Liverpool at home and Arsenal away. They stole it against Liverpool 2-1, in a season where Liverpool finished 2nd in the league and probably should have won it (and Liverpool only lost 2 games that whole season in the league), and then that wonderful London derby, as a neutral my favourite, it finished 4-4... At home though Spurs had the tightest defence in the league, not really like them, but he just got the right players in they needed, but then spectacularly managed to crack the top 4, which had been a monopoly for several seasons (well a quadropoly or whatever...)
And then they got to the quarter-final of the Champions League in their first season in it, beating both Milan teams along the way.
Lots of clubs in the Premier League overspend their budget hoping for the best.
However I guess when he joined Spurs, given they were a Premier League team, he already knew a fair bit about them, and their players. He probably knew nothing about Birmingham and the players he was taking on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 15:57:49 GMT 1
Mr Lakaku..... be nice to people on the way up, because on the way back down, they'll bite you in the ARSE!!!.
Constant goal celebrations against former clubs, (like yesterday) will ensure that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 15:01:21 GMT 1
Swansea to go down with Palace as things are going. Swansea have lost all their home games (a club first in the first three home openers), while Palace have lost 6 without scoring (a first ever in league history).
Both teams look berift of ideas, Swansea's defending for the Watford winner was comical, while Palace had no fight at all against City; it did not even look like they were trying.
Last season Hull were on fire at the KCom after Sousa took over, then after losing to Sunderland, they simply imploded and handed survival to Swansea.... on a plate. Swansea were lucky and should have gone last season. Hull beat them twice and went down instead.
Still, if that happens with us and Bournemouth this season, and its us in the survival position, then I'll take it.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 24, 2017 15:37:41 GMT 1
Ideally it would be Palace, Arsenal and Man C to go down but I suspect I'll have to settle for just one of them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 16:02:04 GMT 1
Swansea are the new Aston Villa; operate on tight spendings to make profit by living off the TV money, sell best players every season to replace them with half-priced replacements, fight relelgation every season, then get eventually relegated.
Since sacking Monk, Swansea have been through more managers than I've been through hot dinners.
At Brighton, we give players and managers a chance, not hit the panic button as soon as something bad happens.
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Post by Earl Purple on Sept 24, 2017 17:40:19 GMT 1
Ideally it would be Palace, Arsenal and Man C to go down but I suspect I'll have to settle for just one of them. I'll settle for just one of them, as long as it's the right one. It's likely to be... We've shown ourselves lacking in the last couple of weeks. Unless we can put that right we won't see all 3 South East London teams meeting in the Championship again next season. Clearly we did well to win 2-0 away at Rotherham. They've scored 20 league goals but failed to score against us at their own ground. However we've also played all the bottom 4 and come out from those with just 4 points.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 18:16:57 GMT 1
What a painful 39 minutes I juat sat through from the moment we scored!!!!!. Still, what a win!.
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Post by o on Sept 24, 2017 20:27:47 GMT 1
Had a successful day watching Harrogate Town play York City for the first time in a competitive match, they won 2-0 in front of a sell out crowd of 2800! KBoro Town also won away in the FA Vase against Jarrow Roofing, and are through to the 1st round for the first time ever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 20:43:15 GMT 1
Really need to catch some non-league football during the international break. The local non-leaguers for me are Eastbourne United, Eastbourne Town, Eastbourne Borough, Bexhill United, Hastings United and Whitehawk (Brighton).
My better half used to watch Hastings quite a bit at weekends, being only if he wasn't back in Wales watching Swansea. He once travelled all the way to Middlesbrough for their FA Cup tie in 2013, car sharing with an old school friend he kept in touch with.
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Post by frag on Sept 24, 2017 21:51:36 GMT 1
Really need to catch some non-league football during the international break. The local non-leaguers for me are Eastbourne United, Eastbourne Town, Eastbourne Borough, Bexhill United, Hastings United and Whitehawk (Brighton). My better half used to watch Hastings quite a bit at weekends, being only if he wasn't back in Wales watching Swansea. He once travelled all the way to Middlesbrough for their FA Cup tie in 2013, car sharing with an old school friend he kept in touch with. One of my brother's primary school friends scored in that Hastings FA cup run!
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Post by suedehead on Sept 24, 2017 21:56:04 GMT 1
I'm now very close to Whitehawk so I feel I ought to go along and see them some time. They're not doing very well so far this season (better than Palace though).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 23:50:37 GMT 1
Really need to catch some non-league football during the international break. The local non-leaguers for me are Eastbourne United, Eastbourne Town, Eastbourne Borough, Bexhill United, Hastings United and Whitehawk (Brighton). My better half used to watch Hastings quite a bit at weekends, being only if he wasn't back in Wales watching Swansea. He once travelled all the way to Middlesbrough for their FA Cup tie in 2013, car sharing with an old school friend he kept in touch with. One of my brother's primary school friends scored in that Hastings FA cup run! Was that against Bishop's Stortford or Harrogate?. That night they beat Harrogate on penalties at the Pilot Field, I was round a friend's house watching it on ESPN, and heard all the racket from the ground nearby as soon as the winning penalty went in. It sounded very out of sync with the TV!.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 23:51:30 GMT 1
I'm now very close to Whitehawk so I feel I ought to go along and see them some time. They're not doing very well so far this season (better than Palace though). Who isn't doing better than Palace so far this season?. Ba-ha-ha-ha!!!.
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Post by frag on Sept 25, 2017 9:06:15 GMT 1
One of my brother's primary school friends scored in that Hastings FA cup run! Was that against Bishop's Stortford or Harrogate?. That night they beat Harrogate on penalties at the Pilot Field, I was round a friend's house watching it on ESPN, and heard all the racket from the ground nearby as soon as the winning penalty went in. It sounded very out of sync with the TV!. It was the 88th-minute winner against Bishop's Stortford. He also scored a penalty in the shoot-out win Looks like he's been around the houses since, playing for Maidstone, Margate ( for a rumoured £800/week!), Hastings (again), and Crowborough since 2013, according to a quick google search.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 16:42:39 GMT 1
Was that against Bishop's Stortford or Harrogate?. That night they beat Harrogate on penalties at the Pilot Field, I was round a friend's house watching it on ESPN, and heard all the racket from the ground nearby as soon as the winning penalty went in. It sounded very out of sync with the TV!. It was the 88th-minute winner against Bishop's Stortford. He also scored a penalty in the shoot-out win Looks like he's been around the houses since, playing for Maidstone, Margate ( for a rumoured £800/week!), Hastings (again), and Crowborough since 2013, according to a quick google search. Stone me!!, that's over 3 grand a month!!!. I only get 1.1 grand for pulling pints, chatting to regulars, taking food orders and bringing them to tables, but I love the girls I work with and the special perk of my lunch being anything from the menu, I did not have the privelege of in my last job. Still, that's amazing money, we must have the highest paid non leagues in Europe. I guess he left the season Hastings had that cup run, as they got relegated that season, just like they did in 2002 the time before that season they last made the FA Cup proper (went out first round 1-0 to Stevenage Boro). I remember that winner against Bishop's Stortford quite well on ITV's FA Cup highlights, as well as all the penalties in the shootout win. Every one the Harrogate keeper got close to, or dived the wrong way, nerve racking night, especially with a goalkeeper who had a slight injury, but played anyway (saved no penalties, two missed, got his outfield players to take goal kicks and would have stopped the Harrogate goal if he was totally fit). ITV's highlights were awful, their show should have been nominated for a BAFTA..... for being bloddy awful. So, how are the qualifying rounds shaping up this season?.
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Post by Robbie on Sept 26, 2017 17:29:19 GMT 1
Sad news Freddy Shepherd, our former chairman, died last night. He could be an idiot at times - literally getting caught with his pants down while talking to an undercover reporter for the News Of The World in a brothel in Spain while slagging off the women in Newcastle and Alan Shearer - but his heart was in the right place. Along with John Hall he saved Newcastle from going bankrupt in the early 90s, signing Kevin Keegan as manager and investing millions in the club over the next decade and a half before being forced to sell the club to Mike Ashley while he was in hospital recovering from an operation. RIP mate.
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