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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 12, 2017 7:21:26 GMT 1
Welcome to Haven Hidden Treasures edition 16. I have been privileged to have been able to listen to these tracks for a few weeks now, and I think we have a really strong selection. I suspect you'll have as much difficulty as I did deciding how to vote. Congratulations and thank you to everyone who has entered a song. Here's how the voting works:- - Pick your top 10. - Scoring is Eurovision style - 12 points for the winner, 10 points for 2nd, 8 points for 3rd, down to 1 point for 10th. - You cannot vote for your own entry. - Send me your votes by PM. - Deadline for voting is the end of Sunday 10th September, so you have 4 weeks, and not a day more. - Because I'll be on holiday, and off-line, for much of that time, I will not be able to send you a confirmation that I have received your votes, or a chaser if you are late. - Note that you can still vote, even if you didn't enter a song into HHT16. In fact, Non-Participant votes are usually a highlight of Haven Hidden Treasures. - But if you did enter a song, and do not vote, your entry will score -12 points from you. During w/c 11th September I will post a poll to decide when to hold the results show. Also note the HHT16 Predicta, in the next post. Note that entering HHT Predicta is just for fun, and is voluntary. It is not a requirement of HHT16 that you also enter HHT16 Predicta. Without further ado, here are the entries… 1. OF VERONA -- Kids On The Street 2. BALLET SCHOOL -- Crush 3. TEDDYBEARS -- Rocket Scientist 4. RACING GLACIERS -- Animal 5. CHROMATICS -- Shadow 6. MERCHANDISE -- Enemy 7. SURFEROSA -- Neon Commando 8. BRYCE FOX -- Horns 9. SEAMUS MOORE -- Did You Ever Get A Ride On A Tractor 10. COIN -- Atlas 11. MI-SEX -- Computer Games 12. MARINA KAYE -- Homeless 13. SMITH & THELL -- Statue (The Pills Song) 14. KARIYA -- Let Me Love You For Tonight 15. NEVADA COLOR -- I Am An Animal 16. GRIMES ft BLOOD DIAMONDS -- Go 17. LANCASHIRE HOTPOTS -- No Lock On The Door 18. The ATOMICS -- Voulez Vous 19. AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER -- The House 20. MARNIE STERN -- For Ash 21. CHI-LITES -- The Coldest Days Of My Life 22. LOVESTARRS -- Somebody Like You 23. DAN AUERBACH -- Shine On Me Attention to all of the following participants:- o-Big Dan-@bruce1234 darkstar79Earl PurplegreendemonJordankrescendolewis17Mart!nMic1812MilliwaysPaulraliverpoolRazzle DazzleRoo.ShirebloggersmokeybDJ nordyTheThornevastar inervyaWanderlust
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 12, 2017 7:23:47 GMT 1
Welcome to Haven Hidden Treasures 16 Predicta
This is just for fun. You can enter this even if you didn't submit a song to HHT16. And if you did enter a song, there is no penalty if you choose not to take part in HHT16 Predicta.
Here's how it works. By PM to me, you predict each of the following:- 1 - the track which will win 2 - the track which will come 2nd 3 - the track which will come 3rd 4 - the track which will come 21st 5 - the track which will come 22nd 6 - the track which will come 23rd and last 7 - where your track will finish (which can include 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 21st, 22nd or 23rd) - if you didn't enter a track then pick any entry you didn't select in the top 3 or bottom 3, and tell me where it will finish 8 - which participant will win - the list of entrants is in the post above - yes, you can predict that you will win 9 - what the winning margin will be (i.e. how many points will the winner be ahead of the 2nd placed song) 10 - how many 12 points will be picked up by the winning song
So, that's 10 predictions. For predictions 1 to 8, you will score 4 points for each correct prediction. You will score 2 points if you are out by 1 place. (For example, if the track you predict to come 3rd finishes 2nd or 4th, you will score 2 points). And you will score 1 point if you are out by 2 places. (For example, if the track you predict to finish 21st, finishes 19th or 23rd). For predictions 9 and 10, the person closest to the correct answer (above or below) will score 5 points, the person second closest will score 4…down to the person 5th closest to the correct answer, who will score 1 point. Any ties will all take the points for the highest - e.g. a 2-way tie for 2nd closest will result in both people getting 4 points. If you get all 10 predictions right, you will score 42 points.
You do not need to submit your HHT16 Predicta at the same time as your votes. But the deadline for entries is the same - Sunday 10th September.
Also, note that your predictions will be made public. So, if you are worried that predicting that Shireblogger's entry will finish last might result in Shireblogger getting very cross with you, then please beware. However, Shireblogger is the one person I can speak on behalf of, and say that no scorn or abuse will come your way if that's what you do; I'll just have a quiet sulk in the corner.
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Post by TheThorne on Aug 12, 2017 8:30:17 GMT 1
Wow this is so much more underground than I expected only 13 actsI I have heard of and a few of them I am not exactly sure what they sound like , so very exciting.
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Post by DJ nordy on Aug 12, 2017 8:48:06 GMT 1
done my song votes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 8:55:23 GMT 1
Teddy bears at 1st thought that 50s band who sing to know you is to love your no is different band all together
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Post by vastar iner on Aug 12, 2017 9:10:27 GMT 1
That Teddy Bears included Phil Spector.
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Post by Wanderlust on Aug 12, 2017 9:21:23 GMT 1
I am surprised people can vote within about half an hour of the songs going up. Usually I take an initital listen then revisit at least once to see if my thoughts about the track have changed on a second listen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 9:27:27 GMT 1
I confuess with rules as 2 in top 10 songs or top 7 and other bits
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Post by TheThorne on Aug 12, 2017 9:50:09 GMT 1
I am surprised people can vote within about half an hour of the songs going up. Usually I take an initital listen then revisit at least once to see if my thoughts about the track have changed on a second listen. Most times I have known most of the songs so I can do it pretty quickly but this one especially as their 23 songs will take some effort . Lol one of these songs is a virus on my YouTube feed, how do I wipe all memory of it from my history!!! I marked it 2/100 then I actually heard something worse!!
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Post by Milliways on Aug 12, 2017 13:06:47 GMT 1
Had my first listen through. One standout almost certainly gets my 12 points. Another clearly in 23rd, one of the most dismal records I've heard in some time. One other entry is from an album with at least 2 other songs that would have challenged for my top score.
It's going to take a few more listens to sort out the ordering. The diversity of styles makes ranking a challenge!
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Post by Mart!n on Aug 12, 2017 13:38:55 GMT 1
I probably vote when I come back from my hols, I will have at least more than a week to vote. In the meantime I can still listen to them, and weed out the weak ones, saves time later.
And how can you vote so quickly, the voting order could change after a few more listens, the mind boggles, you can't really base your votes on your first listen through, what's the point of entering. Anyhoe I guess its up to the individual.
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Post by lewis17 on Aug 12, 2017 14:02:16 GMT 1
This is so much harder than Haven Factor ~ nearly all the songs are new to me, so it's going to take a few listens before I can sort them into order (although there are a few that definitely won't be in my Top 10!).
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Post by vya on Aug 12, 2017 16:29:21 GMT 1
Gosh. That's a very diverse selection.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 16:48:51 GMT 1
Just confused with one got do 10 top 10 or top 7 Shireblogger got 2 different rules up
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Post by greendemon on Aug 12, 2017 17:58:22 GMT 1
Just confused with one got do 10 top 10 or top 7 Shireblogger got 2 different rules up You have to choose a top 10 from the selection. Where are you getting the top 7 thing from? I can only see one set of rules.
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Post by smokeyb on Aug 12, 2017 18:36:00 GMT 1
2 competitions for the price of 1, I like it.
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Post by Mic1812 on Aug 12, 2017 18:38:04 GMT 1
@bruce1234 this is how you score
1st Song ? 12 Points 2nd Song ? 10 Points 3rd Song ? 8 points 4th Song ? 7 points and so on 6 points, 5 points, 4 3 2 then 1 point for your tenth favourite.
obviously your favourite will score 12 points.
13 of these songs will get zero points and that includes your own entry as you cant vote for that
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Post by Mic1812 on Aug 12, 2017 18:40:00 GMT 1
I have a clear winner so far (having only played 2 songs - Lol )
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 19:11:19 GMT 1
Welcome to Haven Hidden Treasures 16 Predicta This is just for fun. You can enter this even if you didn't submit a song to HHT16. And if you did enter a song, there is no penalty if you choose not to take part in HHT16 Predicta. Here's how it works. By PM to me, you predict each of the following:- 1 - the track which will win 2 - the track which will come 2nd 3 - the track which will come 3rd 4 - the track which will come 21st 5 - the track which will come 22nd 6 - the track which will come 23rd and last 7 - where your track will finish (which can include 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 21st, 22nd or 23rd) - if you didn't enter a track then pick any entry you didn't select in the top 3 or bottom 3, and tell me where it will finish 8 - which participant will win - the list of entrants is in the post above - yes, you can predict that you will win 9 - what the winning margin will be (i.e. how many points will the winner be ahead of the 2nd placed song) 10 - how many 12 points will be picked up by the winning song So, that's 10 predictions. For predictions 1 to 8, you will score 4 points for each correct prediction. You will score 2 points if you are out by 1 place. (For example, if the track you predict to come 3rd finishes 2nd or 4th, you will score 2 points). And you will score 1 point if you are out by 2 places. (For example, if the track you predict to finish 21st, finishes 19th or 23rd). For predictions 9 and 10, the person closest to the correct answer (above or below) will score 5 points, the person second closest will score 4…down to the person 5th closest to the correct answer, who will score 1 point. Any ties will all take the points for the highest - e.g. a 2-way tie for 2nd closest will result in both people getting 4 points. If you get all 10 predictions right, you will score 42 points. You do not need to submit your HHT16 Predicta at the same time as your votes. But the deadline for entries is the same - Sunday 10th September. That bit get get confused on Mic1812
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Post by smokeyb on Aug 12, 2017 19:14:45 GMT 1
Welcome to Haven Hidden Treasures 16 Predicta This is just for fun. You can enter this even if you didn't submit a song to HHT16. And if you did enter a song, there is no penalty if you choose not to take part in HHT16 Predicta. Here's how it works. By PM to me, you predict each of the following:- 1 - the track which will win 2 - the track which will come 2nd 3 - the track which will come 3rd 4 - the track which will come 21st 5 - the track which will come 22nd 6 - the track which will come 23rd and last 7 - where your track will finish (which can include 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 21st, 22nd or 23rd) - if you didn't enter a track then pick any entry you didn't select in the top 3 or bottom 3, and tell me where it will finish 8 - which participant will win - the list of entrants is in the post above - yes, you can predict that you will win 9 - what the winning margin will be (i.e. how many points will the winner be ahead of the 2nd placed song) 10 - how many 12 points will be picked up by the winning song So, that's 10 predictions. For predictions 1 to 8, you will score 4 points for each correct prediction. You will score 2 points if you are out by 1 place. (For example, if the track you predict to come 3rd finishes 2nd or 4th, you will score 2 points). And you will score 1 point if you are out by 2 places. (For example, if the track you predict to finish 21st, finishes 19th or 23rd). For predictions 9 and 10, the person closest to the correct answer (above or below) will score 5 points, the person second closest will score 4…down to the person 5th closest to the correct answer, who will score 1 point. Any ties will all take the points for the highest - e.g. a 2-way tie for 2nd closest will result in both people getting 4 points. If you get all 10 predictions right, you will score 42 points. You do not need to submit your HHT16 Predicta at the same time as your votes. But the deadline for entries is the same - Sunday 10th September. That bit get get confused on Mic1812 You don't need to predict this, as this is not the main competition, this is only a bit of fun to try and predict the overall winner etc.
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