TheThorne
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Post by TheThorne on Mar 20, 2018 13:31:06 GMT 1
I am a dinosaur by most people's standards. I don't use streaming services and never even really got on board with downloading either. Most of music is ripped from CD with the occasional download and listened to on my MP3 player. For everything else there's YouTube. Works for me but if you listen to loads of stuff I can definitely see the appeal of a Spotify subscription. I buy music so rarely that it's not really worth it! Try the free service , you will not be able to resist the convenience of it and it might get you even more into music ad you can discover all this stuff without having to pay for it. Need more people with good taste to use it
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Post by Mic1812 on Mar 20, 2018 16:05:35 GMT 1
I am a dinosaur by most people's standards. I don't use streaming services and never even really got on board with downloading either. Most of music is ripped from CD with the occasional download and listened to on my MP3 player. For everything else there's YouTube. Works for me but if you listen to loads of stuff I can definitely see the appeal of a Spotify subscription. I buy music so rarely that it's not really worth it! theretro.co.uk/mystery-cassette-tape-monthly-subscription/Perfect birthday gift for you then Oh wow. Charity shops by me cant get rid of cassette tapes for 10p. I am lucky. I still have the tape player in my seperates and it works fine. Also i can transfer from tape to mp3. I dont need spotify or apple music.
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borneoman
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Post by borneoman on Mar 20, 2018 16:17:47 GMT 1
the hardest transition is to go back from CDs to vinyls, vinyls are amazing but so so so expensive
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SheriffFatman
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Post by SheriffFatman on Mar 21, 2018 11:58:36 GMT 1
::: What's the issue with your laptop I don't get that is it because it's Windows 7 or an old Apple OS. There are still ways to upgrade to Windows 10 for free if that's the issue. In fact just looked can't find anything about this. Are you sure about this? My laptop is 5 years old and it can still use it. I have searched and any potato laptop can run iTunes and Apple Music for the foreseeable future even if they are still on Windows XP. ITunes does have a scary minumum spec but that is more about the video side of the service rather than music. What you want can still be done it will just take a bit of work. You need to fix your own music's tags to match tracks that are on Itunes to make sure you don't get bad matches. The e-mail said: Dear [My name], With effect from 25/05/2018, Apple will introduce security changes that prevent older Windows PCs from using the iTunes Store. Your Windows PC is no longer supported by Microsoft and will not able to use iTunes after the latest security updates. Learn more about iTunes Store availability on unsupported devices. After the changes, you can continue to make iTunes purchases and redownload previous ones only with Windows 7 or later PCs using supported versions of iTunes. The latest version of iTunes is available to download for free at apple.com/itunes. We sincerely apologise for the inconvenience. Regards, iTunes Support Team iTunes Support I don't know which Windows I'm using. Now I think about it, could this be referring to an earlier laptop which I no longer use? I've had a few since I first got iTunes in 2007.
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TheThorne
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Post by TheThorne on Mar 21, 2018 12:28:09 GMT 1
Ahh well if your laptop was new 3 years ago you must have at least Windows 7. If you go to system on control panel it will tell you.
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Post by greendemon on Mar 23, 2018 9:53:44 GMT 1
I am a dinosaur by most people's standards. I don't use streaming services and never even really got on board with downloading either. Most of music is ripped from CD with the occasional download and listened to on my MP3 player. For everything else there's YouTube. Works for me but if you listen to loads of stuff I can definitely see the appeal of a Spotify subscription. I buy music so rarely that it's not really worth it! theretro.co.uk/mystery-cassette-tape-monthly-subscription/Perfect birthday gift for you then I don't have a cassette player. That's like proper Jurassic-level dinosauring. I'm more Cretaceous
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Post by greendemon on Mar 23, 2018 9:58:15 GMT 1
I am a dinosaur by most people's standards. I don't use streaming services and never even really got on board with downloading either. Most of music is ripped from CD with the occasional download and listened to on my MP3 player. For everything else there's YouTube. Works for me but if you listen to loads of stuff I can definitely see the appeal of a Spotify subscription. I buy music so rarely that it's not really worth it! Try the free service , you will not be able to resist the convenience of it and it might get you even more into music ad you can discover all this stuff without having to pay for it. Need more people with good taste to use it I tried the free one years ago and was put off by the horrible adverts. Not just the quantity of adverts by the quantity of the SAME two or three adverts over and over. Maddening! I've always taken the cynical viewpoint of "that's how they suck you in, drive you mad because you come to rely on it but you hate the adverts so pay to get rid of them". I am sure I will cave eventually! Need a better-paying job and to not also be having to spend all my spare cash on driving lessons, then I will go for the premium service.
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Post by popchartfreak on Mar 23, 2018 10:22:06 GMT 1
streaming sites have loads of old and new stuff not available and as they have yet to make a profit I dont want to be in the situation where I suddenly have a chunk of my musical life not available to me when I want it and where I want it, in good quality, if they go belly up. So I still download, buy CD's and have thousands of vinyl. FRinstance the new TOTP 3-CD range has some fab stuff on it, from 1974 through 1986 year by year, £5 for 60 tracks and I never have to worry about renting them, I own them.
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SheriffFatman
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Post by SheriffFatman on Aug 21, 2018 14:48:26 GMT 1
As a postscript to this thread, in the end I have stuck with Apple Music. My free 6 months is up and I'm paying £9.99 per month now. I am frequently still incredibly annoyed with it, but I don't have the time or energy to consider the alternatives.
Yesterday I noticed that I no longer have access to I Love Rock 'N' Roll by Joan Jett and the Blackhearts. Even though I once payed 99p to download it from iTunes, for some reason it's not available on Apple Music so it's just greyed out.
Their approach with Set Adrift On Memory Bliss by PM Dawn is slightly different - instead of refusing to allow me to listen to that at all, they have replaced it with a more recent re-recorded version where the vocalist sounds like he's being forced against his will to record it. I cringe every time it comes on.
These are not exactly rare or obscure recordings. Apple essentially now seem to have the ability to change history, it's hard to believe a big corporation is now actually defining what I am and am not allowed to listen to. The future is a strange place.
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TheThorne
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Post by TheThorne on Aug 21, 2018 15:40:44 GMT 1
If you paid for a track, they cant take it away from you. There is away to redownload purchases. apple Music should match with songs you own anyway. Same for PM Dawn if you bought the original you can restore it. I have pretty much given up on anything I bought from itunes tbh it wasn't probably more than about 200 tracks and most of them I got on albums later anyway. My PC is an Apple free zone for the first time in about 13 years.
I have both tracks if you want them btw.
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Post by Earl Purple on Aug 21, 2018 16:07:49 GMT 1
My PC has been apple-free for a long time.
Apple and iTunes had the market, they were the leaders, but I always avoided them where I could, and I don't have Apple anything. No iPhone, no Mac, no iTunes.
I hated their bloatware on my computer and running things when I didn't want to be running anything of theirs and the only thing I use them for is their search engine to get genres of the tracks I find on Spotify, and I know one day that won't be available anymore, or loads of the music won't be for sale there.
In the past, when you clicked "buy the track" on an artist's own website it redirected you to iTunes. I would have bought it but not there. It now more likely directs you to Bandcamp.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 21, 2018 17:26:10 GMT 1
That's exactly what they hope people do. Just accept being trapped by them and pay for the privilege. I loved ITunes and like Thorney downloaded my mp3s from there in the early years 2003-2005 (only about 100) but I never wanted an iPod I preferred my mp3 player I could add 5x the songs on it, upgrade the memory, watch videos, better audio quality and no synching issues oh and at half the price. They made it very very difficult to get my songs I bought off iTunes and onto my mp3 player so after that I have boycotted them for 13 year
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Post by Earl Purple on Aug 21, 2018 18:11:13 GMT 1
Spotify originally allowed you to buy the songs and gave you download packages so you could buy 100 downloads for £50 as a whole package as long as you used them within a month.
When they removed that feature it was effectively when I stopped buying music.
Even that is too expensive though. Change 10p a song and loads of people will go back to downloading. For that 10p you can guarantee to always be able to play a song even if the artist removes it.
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