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Post by smokeyb on Feb 10, 2019 20:46:19 GMT 1
Chelsea lose 6-0, dearie me
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 11, 2019 12:24:15 GMT 1
Looks like its the Chelsea players annual lets get the manager sacked period
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Post by Shireblogger on Feb 24, 2019 12:20:17 GMT 1
Leicester have sacked Claude Puel. They're on a run of 6 games without a win. His two predecessors, Claudio Ranieri and Craig Shakespeare were also both fired after going 6 games without a win.
Puel's main problem is his teams play dull football. Possession-based, but very low scoring. At Southampton he was successful - a Cup Final and 8th in the league - but a minority of the fans hounded him out because they didn't see enough goals in home matches. At Southampton, Puel's departure signalled a return to constant struggling against relegation. With that be Leicester's fate too ?
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 24, 2019 12:29:29 GMT 1
Hope so ShireB
They beat Man City and Chelsea and drew with Liverpool since Christmas so no excuse for the players, its all to do with their attitude, dropping Jamie Vardy got him the sack, the players went behind Ranieri's back to get him sacked then Shakespeare but it was the players who just downed tools, there were rumours early in the season they went behind Puel's back and asked the board to sack him but they said no and then the good results came around xmas
Good luck whoever takes over that bunch of players, they have more power than the manager
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Post by Earl Purple on Feb 24, 2019 17:13:19 GMT 1
Since they won the league they think they have the right to be a big team. They are not, they are still a team who is at best mid-table.
I don't even know who their chairman is now who makes these decisions.
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Post by raliverpool on Feb 24, 2019 21:06:46 GMT 1
Looks like its the Chelsea players annual lets get the manager sacked period Well tonight's Carabao Cup final proved once and for all that the Chelski manager does not run the team.
If I was Eden Hazard, the sooner I could get away from this toxic team the better.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 24, 2019 22:59:08 GMT 1
Yeah that was a joke, I don't think have ever seen a player refuse to be subbed
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Post by Earl Purple on Feb 25, 2019 11:29:22 GMT 1
We don't see that happen anymore. The showdown between Alex Ferguson and David Beckham in 2003 when Fergie showed who was the manager there. Brian Clough similarly at Nottingham Forest during their days.
It's very easy now for players to get managers sacked.
Spurs lost to Burnley at the weekend but you still get the feeling the players there play for the manager. I don't think he'd want to move elsewhere, it might not work.
Klopp and Guardiola seem to be reasonably well in charge of their teams.
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Post by Shireblogger on Feb 25, 2019 11:49:39 GMT 1
When a team is winning, it seems the manager is in charge.
When a team isn't winning, everyone looks for someone else to blame. As soon as the players get any hint that the fans, the press, or the directors are not fully behind the manager, then they'll start to indicate that they aren't behind him either. And so the pressure builds, until the manager gets fired.
The best managers identify the players who aren't fully on board, while the team is winning. Then it becomes much easier to show who is in charge. Ferguson, Clough, Shankly and the other great managers would let one or two players leave each season, even if they were still playing well and fan favourites. That way, a toxic atmosphere was never allowed to build.
The other difference these days is that the manager is a lot less influential within the club. Ferguson, Clough, Shankly and co reported directly to the chairman, and were fully in charge of everything to do with the players, including contract negotiations and transfers. These days, clubs have other employees to do that, so the title head coach is a far more accurate reflection of the role.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 25, 2019 12:48:13 GMT 1
And players are harder to manage, most of them need pampering, hugs, time off
If you tell them the truth they go in a strop instead of taking criticism as advice on how to improve, if you refuse to give them a pay rise they create a toxic atmosphere, its like managing a bunch of spoilt kids, very few grown up men in football
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Post by o on Feb 25, 2019 13:14:08 GMT 1
Thing is as well, is it happens at every level, Mansfield have only just got rid of Anderson, a player Steve Evans signed on 2 a year contract on high wages, before buggering off to China, I mean Peterborough, and leaving us with high earners who didn't want to play for the new manager. Rumours are he was a bad influence in the changing room, Zander Diamond was another, it's very hard for so many egos to be managed by another person I guess? There will always be clashes.
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Post by Robbie on Mar 1, 2019 3:50:27 GMT 1
Another managerial sacking. Claudio Ranieri has been sacked by Fulham having only taken over in November. Clubs are now getting desperate with only 10 games left, especially when they are facing relegation, but this must be one of the quickest sackings for quite some time www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47401305
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Post by o on Mar 1, 2019 14:51:33 GMT 1
And they say Leeds are bad at sacking managers, must be a few teams up there with them recently, Notts County being the main one...
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Mar 1, 2019 15:36:19 GMT 1
Pretty sure Fulham are preparing for the Championship next season
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 3, 2019 17:28:44 GMT 1
Managerial merry-go-round again and I don't think it helps the clubs at all.
We see very few clubs bounce straight back up again, and I'm sure it's the turmoil of sacking the manager the previous season.
Charlton did well to get up through the play-offs in 1998 and then couldn't quite survive the next season but we stuck with Curbishley who took us straight back up again as champions and kept us up for several seasons.
After he quit things went wrong, we went through lots of managers and dropped two divisions.
Ranieri is the manager who won the title with Leicester City, so we know he is capable if given the resources.
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Post by Shireblogger on Mar 3, 2019 18:39:16 GMT 1
Bradford City since Phil Parkinson left to manage Bolton in June 2016, when they finished 5th in League One:-
Stuart McCall: 96 matches 46% wins SACKED Greg Abbott: 1 match 0% wins CARETAKER Simon Grayson: 14 matches 21% wins CONTRACT NOT RENEWED Michael Collins: 7 matches 29% wins SACKED David Hopkin: 35 matches 20% wins RESIGNED Martin Drury: current CARETAKER
Now looking for their 6th permanent manager in less than 3 years. There's a Board that knows how to recruit talent. Notable that they sacked their two best managers in that period.
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Post by Shireblogger on Mar 4, 2019 18:49:53 GMT 1
JANUARY 2018 TRANSFER WINDOW
13 months have passed since the January 2018 transfer window slammed shut. (I don’t know why nobody is capable of closing it gently, but that’s football for you I guess).
So, why not have a quick review of the 10 biggest British transfers, and see which Directors of Football and Head Scouts did a good job, and which didn’t.
VIRGIL VAN DIJK: Southampton to Liverpool £75m
Played 56 matches; scored 4 goals.
Liverpool had over £140m burning a hole in their pocket following the sale of Philippe Coutinho to Barcelona. At the time they were 3rd in the Premier League, but 18 points behind Manchester City. Now they are 2nd, but only 1 point behind. Liverpool’s goals against record is telling – by the start of February 2018 they had conceded 32 goals in 28 league games. This season so far it is 15 goals in 29 games. And many pundits now reckon Van Dijk is the best defender in British football.
Verdict: OUTSTANDING SUCCESS
ALEXIS SANCHEZ: Arsenal to Manchester Utd Exchange Deal
Played 41 matches; scored 5 goals.
A dismal goals per game ratio for such a well paid striker, even accounting for the fact that he was a substitute for about one third of the matches. Reportedly, one of a multitude of victims of Jose Mourinho’s abysmal man-management, things haven’t improved under Ole-Gunnar Solksjaer. He now ranks as United’s 4th choice forward, thus representing a terrible waste of a megabucks salary.
Verdict: TOTAL FAILURE
HENRIKH MKHITARYAN: Manchester Utd to Arsenal Exchange Deal
Played 40 matches; scored 9 goals.
He has started most of the games he has featured in, rather than making substitute appearances, and has contributed a healthy number of goals for an attacking midfielder. (Indeed, his goals per game ratio is almost 2x that of Alexis Sanchez). But Arsenal are only a barely improved team over the 13 month period in question, which suggests he hasn’t made a great difference.
Verdict: REASONABLE SUCCESS
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Post by Shireblogger on Mar 4, 2019 18:51:04 GMT 1
THEO WALCOTT: Arsenal to Everton £20m
Played 44 matches; scored 7 goals.
I find it incredible that Walcott is still in his 20s. His Everton career started really well, as he scored 2 goals in his 2nd game for the Toffees. This season only Gylfi Sigurdsson has featured in more Everton games, which means that he is playing consistently and has so far been injury-free. But I had expected a few more goals and assists from Walcott.
Verdict: SUCCESS
AARON LENNON: Everton to Burnley Undisclosed Fee
Played 36 matches; scored 1 goal.
Making way for Walcott was Aaron Lennon, who looked like a good signing for Burnley. In his pre-Burnley career he averaged 1 goal every 12 games, but it is just 1 in 36 for his new club, which is probably more of a reflection of the soporific football played by Burnley in comparison to Tottenham and Everton. He has started half of Burnley’s games this season, and the team are doing just about OK.
Verdict: DEPENDS HOW MUCH BURNLEY REALLY PAID FOR HIM
ANDRE AYEW: West Ham to Swansea £18m
Played 12 matches; scored 0 goals.
An attacking player signed in panic as Swansea sat in 17th place in the league. Ayew didn’t score, and Swansea got relegated. Given his undoubtedly huge wages, Swansea loaned him to Fenerbahce for the 2018/19 season, whilst they drift into mid-table obscurity into the Championship.
Verdict: TOTAL FAILURE
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Post by Shireblogger on Mar 4, 2019 18:52:28 GMT 1
OLIVIER GIROUD: Arsenal to Chelsea £18m
Played 49 matches; scored 12 goals.
Used as a substitute far more often than in the starting XI by both Antonio Conte and Maurizio Sarri, 8 of Giroud’s 12 goals have come in Cup competitions. Given he is 32 years old and was only given an 18 month contract, it is probable that both Chelsea and Giroud were expecting him to be a squad player. Thus this looks like a good piece of business for all parties - Arsenal, Chelsea and Giroud.
Verdict: SUCCESS
ROSS BARKLEY: Everton to Chelsea £15m
Played 42 matches; scored 5 goals.
Barkley barely featured for Chelsea under Antonio Conte, but has been a regular under Maurizio Sarri. He started the season very well, earning frequent plaudits and a recall to the England squad. But as Chelsea have faded, so has Barkley.
Verdict: MODERATE SUCCESS
ALEX PRITCHARD: Norwich to Huddersfield £11m
Played 33 matches; scored 1 goal.
Attacking midfielder Pritchard ranks 6th so far this season in terms of Huddersfield appearances. When he joined they were 14th in the Premier League. Now they are relegation certainties. Responsibility for this decline is not Pritchard’s, but it does seem that he is out of his depth in the top division.
Verdict: UNSUCCESSFUL
JORDAN HUGILL: Preston to West Ham £10m
Played 3 matches; 0 goals.
Having made 3 substitute appearances in 2017/18, Hugill was deemed unwanted when Manuel Pellegrini replaced David Moyes as manager, and is therefore out on a season-long loan at Middlesbrough, where he is playing regularly.
Verdict: FAILURE
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Post by Tom on Mar 5, 2019 9:33:08 GMT 1
A couple of interesting rule changes for next season, after the IFAB meeting on Saturday.
You won't be able to score rebounds from penalties next season, it will be just like a penalty shootout. There seems to be some uncertainty about what will happen if the penalty comes back off the woodwork or the keeper saves it though. I heard this and thought of all the penalty rebounds Reading scored from 2 seasons ago to make the playoffs!
Goal kicks now won't have to leave the box, just the 6 yard box, although opposition players will still have to be outside the 18 yard box when the kick is taken. Cue more goals conceded by Reading...
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