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Post by Tom on Aug 2, 2019 12:46:03 GMT 1
Hmm, would like to think we won't be in a relegation battle this season...
Will be getting the Four Four Two issue so will be interesting to see what they think.
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Post by raliverpool on Aug 8, 2019 18:28:54 GMT 1
Who needs to watch Sky Sports News Centre, when this pretty much covers the PL 2019/20 Transfer window:
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Post by frag on Aug 8, 2019 21:09:15 GMT 1
Not bothering with the £6 or whatever it is now for the FourFourTwo preview issue, especially when I can get the Racing Post one from work for free. This is what they've come up with for their predictions: PREMIER LEAGUE 1. Manchester City 2. Liverpool 3. Tottenham 4. Chelsea 5. Arsenal 6. Manchester United 7. Leicester 8. Wolves 9. Everton 10. West Ham 11. Watford 12. Southampton 13. Bournemouth 14. Crystal Palace 15. Burnley 16. Aston Villa 17. Norwich 18. Newcastle 19. Brighton 20. Sheffield United FourFourTwo have Chelsea down in 7th, but Arsenal-ManU-Leics in the same order. Same three to go down iirc.
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 10, 2019 15:37:25 GMT 1
Manchester City and Liverpool start the new season with 9 goals between them.
Its going to be another dull, dull Premier Division season. (Unless you're one of those blinkered fans who thinks finishing 4th in the league is an achievement). Just two games will actually matter:- City v Liverpool and Liverpool v City.
The Football League is the place to go for thrills and spills this season. Wide open races for promotion in all three divisions.
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Post by smokeyb on Aug 10, 2019 16:46:58 GMT 1
Manchester City and Liverpool start the new season with 9 goals between them. Its going to be another dull, dull Premier Division season. (Unless you're one of those blinkered fans who thinks finishing 4th in the league is an achievement). Just two games will actually matter:- City v Liverpool and Liverpool v City. The Football League is the place to go for thrills and spills this season. Wide open races for promotion in all three divisions. Yes indeed, Premiership is becoming like other leagues where 1 or 2 teams totally dominate it. In Scotland Celtic have won 2 from 2 and scored 12 goals already. May as well hand them the trophy now. The championship in Scotland is far more equal and much closer matches.
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Post by o on Aug 10, 2019 21:03:45 GMT 1
But Sky and Sky dominated press tell us it is the best league in the world, so it ust be true...I'll stick to the lower leagues though...
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Post by Paddy on Aug 12, 2019 15:16:35 GMT 1
Manchester City and Liverpool start the new season with 9 goals between them. Its going to be another dull, dull Premier Division season. (Unless you're one of those blinkered fans who thinks finishing 4th in the league is an achievement). Just two games will actually matter:- City v Liverpool and Liverpool v City. The Football League is the place to go for thrills and spills this season. Wide open races for promotion in all three divisions. It's only dull if you make it dull. I obviously am focused on Norwich losing every week. By 10 goals in one match would be great. But otherwise the race for top 4 is interesting. I don't care about citeh or scouser team. This season is already better then last for Ipswich. Got 24000 in Portman Road v Sunderland.
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Post by o on Aug 13, 2019 10:01:54 GMT 1
I hope Norwich stay up, they play lovely football.
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Post by Paddy on Aug 13, 2019 18:19:41 GMT 1
Yep they leave the back gate wide open 😉
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Post by o on Aug 13, 2019 20:04:21 GMT 1
But hey they're still higher than you? When was the last time Ipswich were in the top flight? And how many times have Norwich been in there? Enjoy them losing in the Prem while you struggle to get out of league 1. I understand rivalries, but it's a bit hard to cast stones when you're on such a downward trajectory! I hope you bounce back soon, I also need to do your ground.
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Post by Paddy on Aug 15, 2019 21:53:56 GMT 1
2003. Played Milan in europa league.
Tis what happens when you have a chairman who puts little funds into the team, employs an egoistic Irish man and a tight Yorkshireman. And to kill it off a league 1 manager who spent too much on untested lower league players.
This season is looking better. We need to use the youth like Burley did out the academy. Not sell to lowest bid but nurture to a solid squad. League 1 will be fun. I'm hoping to get to a couple games. Lincoln home, want to do Cecil Bank but unlikely. Maybe MK Dons away.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 29, 2019 16:28:51 GMT 1
So Bury have gone bust? whatever happened to fit and proper owner checks, this fella who bought Bury 9 month ago for £1 has been involved with 43 businesses that have gone into liquidation and didn't have the funds to run a football club
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Post by Robin on Aug 29, 2019 17:01:30 GMT 1
I do feel sorry for the fans, but clubs can't go on living beyond their means and unfortunately Bury have paid the ultimate price. Maybe this will be a wake up call to others.
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 29, 2019 17:20:23 GMT 1
I do feel sorry for the fans, but clubs can't go on living beyond their means and unfortunately Bury have paid the ultimate price. Maybe this will be a wake up call to others. Sadly, every time a football club goes bust, it is supposed to be a wake-up call. It isn't ever, because there are so many people with massive egos, an opinion that they are a good businessman, and £1 going spare. And the "fit-and-proper" checks are a total farce. As always, the over-compensated footballers have moved on to other clubs. But there are dozens of employees who've lost their job, and dozens of small businesses that won't get the big sums of cash they are owed. It is often argued that this is a consequence of the megabucks Premier League. But it isn't, as football clubs have been going bust since football clubs were invented. It is just that football clubs are businesses that resemble places of worship, and they leave many people bereft when they go under.
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Post by Shireblogger on Sept 26, 2019 8:09:18 GMT 1
10 Reasons why I love the Carabao Cup
1. Portsmouth 0-4 Southampton
2. I went to see Burton vs Bournemouth last night. My 388th professional match, but my first floodlight failure. (And my second. And my third.) Thence 28 minutes of added time.
3. Portsmouth 0-4 Southampton
4. 16 year-old Luke Matheson scores the goal to take Rochdale to a penalty shoot-out at Old Trafford, against a Man Utd team that includes Paul Pogba (£90m), Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£50m), Juan Mata (£37m) and Marcus Rojo (£18m).
5. Portsmouth 0-4 Southampton
6. Colchester dumping Spurs out of the competition.
7. Portsmouth 0-4 Southampton
8. Oxford dumping West Ham out of the competition.
9. Watching all the youngsters, and future England internationals, in action. Chelsea, especially, plus Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester City, Manchester United and Leicester all had exciting talent on show.
10. Back to that Burton vs Bournemouth game. It was really exciting, breathless stuff. And I've never seen such a one-sided Cup upset. Burton won by 7-1 on shots on target, and 16-7 on all shots, nevermind 2-0 on goals, plus they had the most obvious handball in the box I've ever seen ignored by the referee for a penalty. The more the game went on, the more Burton's self-belief grew, and the more they kept counter-attacking and soaking up Bournemouth's midfield possession.
Yep, I love midweek Cup football.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 26, 2019 8:47:36 GMT 1
Floodlight failure is boring. I was at a match at Woking that had to be abandoned when a hole suddenly appeared in the pitch after a water main collapsed.
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Post by Shireblogger on Sept 26, 2019 9:30:50 GMT 1
Floodlight failure is boring. I was at a match at Woking that had to be abandoned when a hole suddenly appeared in the pitch after a water main collapsed. Ooh, a sinkhole. That gets lots of points in your I-Spy at the Footie book.
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Post by o on Sept 26, 2019 13:17:34 GMT 1
I do feel sorry for the fans, but clubs can't go on living beyond their means and unfortunately Bury have paid the ultimate price. Maybe this will be a wake up call to others. Sadly, every time a football club goes bust, it is supposed to be a wake-up call. It isn't ever, because there are so many people with massive egos, an opinion that they are a good businessman, and £1 going spare. And the "fit-and-proper" checks are a total farce. As always, the over-compensated footballers have moved on to other clubs. But there are dozens of employees who've lost their job, and dozens of small businesses that won't get the big sums of cash they are owed. It is often argued that this is a consequence of the megabucks Premier League. But it isn't, as football clubs have been going bust since football clubs were invented. It is just that football clubs are businesses that resemble places of worship, and they leave many people bereft when they go under. I think the Premier League mega bucks has meant that players can demand more wages at the highest level, which then has a knock on affect on the other leagues, as Championship players stay on those wages after parachute payments, so I think unless you are very savvy at sniffing out cheap youngsters, you are going to pay more than you are taking in, and therefore be over the edge. But the trouble starts when the owners no longer want to pay that, or cant. I assume that noone here is in favour of Bury coming back into League 2 next season? Bump em into the conf north, and if they dont want them, evostick, it's what happened to Stockport and they're fighting their way back, think the same happened to Hereford as well.
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Post by o on Sept 26, 2019 13:18:15 GMT 1
I've had fog abandon a FA Cup game against Preston once, does that get many points?
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Post by Tom on Sept 26, 2019 14:43:25 GMT 1
Sadly, every time a football club goes bust, it is supposed to be a wake-up call. It isn't ever, because there are so many people with massive egos, an opinion that they are a good businessman, and £1 going spare. And the "fit-and-proper" checks are a total farce. As always, the over-compensated footballers have moved on to other clubs. But there are dozens of employees who've lost their job, and dozens of small businesses that won't get the big sums of cash they are owed. It is often argued that this is a consequence of the megabucks Premier League. But it isn't, as football clubs have been going bust since football clubs were invented. It is just that football clubs are businesses that resemble places of worship, and they leave many people bereft when they go under. I think the Premier League mega bucks has meant that players can demand more wages at the highest level, which then has a knock on affect on the other leagues, as Championship players stay on those wages after parachute payments, so I think unless you are very savvy at sniffing out cheap youngsters, you are going to pay more than you are taking in, and therefore be over the edge. But the trouble starts when the owners no longer want to pay that, or cant. I assume that noone here is in favour of Bury coming back into League 2 next season? Bump em into the conf north, and if they dont want them, evostick, it's what happened to Stockport and they're fighting their way back, think the same happened to Hereford as well. Our financial figures for 2017-18 were shocking, almost 200% wages to turnover ratio, 2nd worst after Birmingham IIRC, first season after parachute payments ended, and lost 21m our worst ever losses in a season. As for owners not paying, Anton Zingarevich springs to mind there. His daddy said you can't have any more money (I think that family have had financial trouble since then too), and had we not sold Adam Le Fondre to Cardiff at the end of May 2014 we would have been in administration. Sir John Madejski recently did a podcast interview for BBC radio Berkshire (a new feature this season, they're excellent) and whilst it seemed a bit of a touchy subject he basically said that if the Thais hadn't bought the club a few months later the club would have been in real trouble.
As for Bury, it seems the league clubs are universally in agreement that they shouldn't be allowed back in the league. And they also want to introduce points penalties for clubs cancelling games, which may affect Bolton this season with the two they've cancelled this season and last.
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