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Post by Shireblogger on Sept 15, 2022 21:43:41 GMT 1
Just watched ep 4.. I enjoyed the first three episodes a lot, but this one is the first time I’ve confidently felt it’s on a parr with GoT. Really excellent and well thought out. Superbly written (almost in entirety), expertly edited and for the most part great performances. The time jumping is still somewhat jarring, and the way they’re having characters tell us how much time has passed between episodes is a little clumsy though Completely agree with all of this. The best episode so far, and packed with the elements I loved about GOT. (And I'm not talking about all the flesh). |
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Post by Bluewhalesroxs007 on Sept 15, 2022 23:13:07 GMT 1
Good way was end epsode 3 be way be epsode 1
Might not get see last few epsodes 😳😂😂👊🏻🙏🤔😎😂😂
Mo ligees
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Post by S1m on Sept 17, 2022 16:52:36 GMT 1
Excellent ep. Surprised so many are debating *if* sex occurred when it clearly didn't the first time.
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Post by Jordan on Sept 19, 2022 14:12:56 GMT 1
I'm not sure how anyone could question the quality of this show after the halfway point. Episodes 4 and now 5 are superior to any we had in the first season of Game of Thrones.
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Post by o on Sept 19, 2022 19:42:56 GMT 1
I do like it a lot, but do we have to keep comparing to GoT, aren't they two separate shows. And the 1st season of GoT was absolutely epic and shocking! And with 5 times as many characters to introduce and understand.
*Suspend belief* with Daemon turning up out of the blue (and no-one noticing) while he kills his wife, her being stupid enough not to realise that was coming! The sheep must be out of this world if they're better looking than her as well! Ser Cristan isn't very bright either is he?
Oh and our 1st dwarf, on the drums?
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Post by Jordan on Sept 19, 2022 20:33:22 GMT 1
I do like it a lot, but do we have to keep comparing to GoT, aren't they two separate shows. And the 1st season of GoT was absolutely epic and shocking! And with 5 times as many characters to introduce and understand. *Suspend belief* with Daemon turning up out of the blue (and no-one noticing) while he kills his wife, her being stupid enough not to realise that was coming! The sheep must be out of this world if they're better looking than her as well! Ser Cristan isn't very bright either is he? Oh and our 1st dwarf, on the drums? Comparisons between the two seem fair and natural to me. In fairness to Daemon's wife, she did see it coming, just a little too late. Not that I'd hold it against her for an encounter that lasted all of about 200 seconds. |
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Post by Bluewhalesroxs007 on Sept 19, 2022 20:49:28 GMT 1
Its good kool too much slush romanice more blood guts
Com on 😉😡😂🙏👊🏻👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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Post by o on Sept 19, 2022 21:29:08 GMT 1
I do like it a lot, but do we have to keep comparing to GoT, aren't they two separate shows. And the 1st season of GoT was absolutely epic and shocking! And with 5 times as many characters to introduce and understand. *Suspend belief* with Daemon turning up out of the blue (and no-one noticing) while he kills his wife, her being stupid enough not to realise that was coming! The sheep must be out of this world if they're better looking than her as well! Ser Cristan isn't very bright either is he? Oh and our 1st dwarf, on the drums? Comparisons between the two seem fair and natural to me. In fairness to Daemon's wife, she did see it coming, just a little too late. Not that I'd hold it against her for an encounter that lasted all of about 200 seconds. It's just poor writing to create a situation where he is free to marry and maybe inherit her money. She knew what he had been up to in King's Landing (usurped) and elsewhere, she knew he was cruel, mean and vindictive, it didn't cross a huntswoman's mind when she saw him to draw her weapon first? Of course it would, but that doesn't fit the narrative we are following. |
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Post by o on Sept 26, 2022 20:33:50 GMT 1
The timejump confused me muchly, I thought initially we were in the past as some characters seemed to have aged 15 years while some look the same, but it's a 10 year jump? And the Ser Cristan and other bloke being the father of her black haired children fighting was more confusion, last I remember she was sleeping with Ser Cristan? And then it got more dark with hobbly brother killing his other brother and father, so they could get the Queen's father back as Hand? Will he not have aged 10 years either? The king looked at death's door 10 years ago, and here he still is, for at least one episode more...
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Post by Jordan on Sept 26, 2022 21:10:38 GMT 1
I can make that easier for you to grasp - the characters who were children in episodes 1-5, have had the actors replaced to portray them into adulthood. Those who were adults already, are played by the same adult actors. No more drastic time jumps from here on in though so if you're able to keep up thus far, you should be good here on in.
As for the confusion re: parenthoods and relationships - I think that's entirely the point. This is the makings of an inter-family fued - complications, betrayals, secrets. For many fans of Game Of Thrones (and yes it's a relevant comparison, this is a prequel of that very show), exactly what we need more of!
Personally have no issues with the time jumping or actor changes (the casting team deserve multiple awards, the nailed it), and found this another stellar episode.
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Post by o on Sept 26, 2022 21:36:43 GMT 1
Oh I knew the two main actors were changing, but it's the fact they changed Rhaenyra but not her husband, so I thought we were in flashback mode for Laenor's dad and the queen that never was. Laenor looks 15, Rhaenyra 40, but maybe that was the childbirth...
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Post by Jordan on Sept 26, 2022 21:44:00 GMT 1
Oh I knew the two main actors were changing, but it's the fact they changed Rhaenyra but not her husband, so I thought we were in flashback mode for Laenor's dad and the queen that never was. Laenor looks 15, Rhaenyra 40, but maybe that was the childbirth... They did change the actor for Laenor... (like I said, very good casting). |
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Post by o on Sept 27, 2022 10:31:34 GMT 1
Ok, he still looks about 15, the same age as the previous actor, whereas Rhaenyra has gone from 15 to 35, hence my confusion. It just felt like a lot to take in after a time jump, you've read the books you're fine, I haven't, I struggled. GofT was criticised at the end for throwing lots of stuff at us in a short time to finish it all. I felt like that in this episode and it's only the first season.
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Post by TheThorne on Sept 27, 2022 10:50:27 GMT 1
Ok, he still looks about 15, the same age as the previous actor, whereas Rhaenyra has gone from 15 to 35, hence my confusion. It just felt like a lot to take in after a time jump, you've read the books you're fine, I haven't, I struggled. GofT was criticised at the end for throwing lots of stuff at us in a short time to finish it all. I felt like that in this episode and it's only the first season. HOTD respects its audience enough to work things out for themselves, there was a lot to take in yesterday and so many names but we are going to be with nearly all these characters for the long hall now although there will be another time jump/ recast to make the kids into adults. If it was Rings Of Power we’d have cast saying things like ‘Oh look they have brown hair’ or ‘ Raenyra is looking a bit rough after these 10 years of b*st*rd babies and unhappiness’ . We get all that just from the characters expressions or visual clues. And you can see power dynamics have shifted and nice characters are now a bit p*ssed off and not so nice and we don’t need it repeated to us 5 times. But yeh a 2nd watch would help. |
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Post by TheThorne on Sept 27, 2022 10:58:12 GMT 1
Oh I knew the two main actors were changing, but it's the fact they changed Rhaenyra but not her husband, so I thought we were in flashback mode for Laenor's dad and the queen that never was. Laenor looks 15, Rhaenyra 40, but maybe that was the childbirth... Exactly that , in the books I heard she loses her looks and becomes frumpy, that’s why she had to be recast. She should be 28 , 29 tops at this point and she will be over 35 next week. |
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Post by Jordan on Sept 27, 2022 11:49:54 GMT 1
One thing's for certain, the show isn't for casual viewers or people with low attention-spans. And it's only going to get worse with all these new character names to get to grips with that all sound like other characters with some singular vowel swapping  |
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Post by o on Sept 27, 2022 16:20:11 GMT 1
Yep, if you want to be a big successful show, it's always good to ditch the casual viewer and people with low attention spans. Westworld did that too, and it didn't work out so well. Be interesting to see how the viewing figures go for this show. GofT didn't do the time jumps, and it felt more enjoyable. I'll watch it while I have Sky, but dont feel I'd miss it if I didn't watch it, whereas GofT I couldn't wait each week for the next episode. This I feel needs to find it's feet and a timeline and stick to it and tell the story.
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Post by Jordan on Sept 27, 2022 16:29:51 GMT 1
How would you got about telling a story spanning several decades? Or should TV / movies be limited to storytelling in something more resembling real-time?
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Post by TheThorne on Sept 27, 2022 17:48:03 GMT 1
Do what ROP did and shrink the events into a smaller time period that’s going well…
Also HOTD is storming in the ratings , HOTD is close to peak GOT ratings now as people who didn’t want to come back are now jumping on.
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Post by o on Sept 27, 2022 18:07:48 GMT 1
How would you got about telling a story spanning several decades? Or should TV / movies be limited to storytelling in something more resembling real-time? Storytelling can of course be in any form it wants to be, I never said anything different. I'm just talking about this show. I dont know how many seasons of HoD we have got coming, you probably do after reading the books? But I think I'd spread the time jumps out a bit more, think we've already done 12 3 and 10 years (2 of which were fine), I assume it is going to settle down into one period to tell the story at some point? You just need to accept that to some people it's quite a lot to take on board. If I'd read the books like I had with GoT then I probably wouldn't be asking so many questions, but obviously my attention span is poor as well  Squirrel!  Glad to hear it's doing well in the ratings, it obviously needs to at $20m an episode. |
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