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Post by S1m on Mar 29, 2022 18:40:04 GMT 1
And mission accomplished, newbie deleted. Maybe we could be more choice with our words, rather than telling someone to leave, or just ignore them. Or the same 5 people can carry on talking amongst themselves ad finitum. Yeah, telling US off is the way to go here rather than a pompous person being unnecessarily argumentative. I'll always welcome new blood but I don't have to accept rudeness. I also have no idea what the latter half means. Do you not want people to talk to each other? POTW would be far more of a level playing field if people were discouraged from conversing with one another!
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Post by S1m on Mar 29, 2022 18:43:33 GMT 1
Surprised that House of Gucci was as ignored as it was. yeah, how could Lady Gaga not get an award? She did win Haven Factor though.. I'm sure that knowledge has got her through her darker hours... 😜
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Post by o on Mar 29, 2022 19:41:48 GMT 1
And mission accomplished, newbie deleted. Maybe we could be more choice with our words, rather than telling someone to leave, or just ignore them. Or the same 5 people can carry on talking amongst themselves ad finitum. Yeah, telling US off is the way to go here rather than a pompous person being unnecessarily argumentative. I'll always welcome new blood but I don't have to accept rudeness. I also have no idea what the latter half means. Do you not want people to talk to each other? POTW would be far more of a level playing field if people were discouraged from conversing with one another! I'm talking about it's the same few posters talking to each other, that is all that is left here. Who do you think was the last newbie to stand the test of time, and not say anything rude or pompous and get shouted down by posters with 80k posts? It's been absolutely YEARS since we've had new posters that have stayed. Maybe Bulldog wasn't the right fit for here, but we will never know as after just 20 posts, we told him where to go.
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Post by Jordan on Mar 29, 2022 19:48:27 GMT 1
Laughable.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Mar 29, 2022 22:42:10 GMT 1
Well I was nice to him, he didn't want to stick around though, not sure the minor altercation was entirely the reason he left, he seemed needy and not happy with the activity of the forum during his hours. If he is going to go against the majority and state an opinion that rubs people the wrong way it's up to him to either accept the replies or back up his point, not escalate the situation then delete yourself because it escalated. I find it all a bit odd, we will never know if he would've stuck around but given the over reaction it was on par with Will Smith so I doubt it
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Post by S1m on Mar 29, 2022 23:20:59 GMT 1
Yeah, telling US off is the way to go here rather than a pompous person being unnecessarily argumentative. I'll always welcome new blood but I don't have to accept rudeness. I also have no idea what the latter half means. Do you not want people to talk to each other? POTW would be far more of a level playing field if people were discouraged from conversing with one another! I'm talking about it's the same few posters talking to each other, that is all that is left here. Who do you think was the last newbie to stand the test of time, and not say anything rude or pompous and get shouted down by posters with 80k posts? It's been absolutely YEARS since we've had new posters that have stayed. Maybe Bulldog wasn't the right fit for here, but we will never know as after just 20 posts, we told him where to go. Who told him where to go? No one told him to leave the forum. I welcomed him. If you'd rather have bulldog back then the old faithfuls then just say!
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Mar 29, 2022 23:53:46 GMT 1
That's not what he said. We want newbies and old faithfuls to integrate
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Post by Jordan on Mar 30, 2022 7:27:46 GMT 1
We were integrating.
All I see is a new person has deleted their account, and forum mods are looking for someone to blame because it must be somebody’s fault. It’s beyond possibility that the individual just wasn’t able to hack any minor disagreement or opinions not like their own.
If I’m such a big bag bully and my comments were so offensive they should have been called out before the account was deleted. As it was it was only an issue after the account was gone.
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Post by greendemon on Mar 30, 2022 10:17:25 GMT 1
The way I see it, Bulldog was invited to leave the thread and clearly took it as an invitation to leave the forum. That misunderstanding is on Bulldog, who also seemed to be rather touchy about the whole thing and therefore not liable to stick around anyway. I did think Jordan came across as a bit harsh, but honestly I'm not sure I'd have thought that if Bulldog had been a more established poster.
It's a shame as I enjoyed his thread in Gubbins about where he lived but I'm not sure what he was expecting wading into a thread about the Oscars to moralise about the ceremony's existence.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Mar 30, 2022 12:11:09 GMT 1
The old saying "If you wade into choppy waters, neck deep to swim against the tide, don't be surprised if a wave slaps you in the chops", ok I just made that up but it was inevitable that someone would dislike the morale high grounding enough to say well get out the water if you don't like dealing with the waves of inevitability that's going to come your way. Lets hope he doesn't find his way onto Twitter and expect better reactions, if someone saying "if you don't like the discussion, leave the discussion" triggers deleting their account then they aren't ready for the tamest parts of the internet, Haven is very very mild and fairly welcoming, ok maybe not as welcoming to newcomers as it could be but they equally have as much of a responsibility to integrate as we do welcome their transgressions.
You wouldn't sit down at a table of 5 people you don't know in a pub that have known each other for 15 years that were discussing the Oscars amongst themselves having a private conversation in a public place, you wouldn't walk over and slam your pint on the table and say "Well aren't you all c*nts for discussing trivial things like the Oscars when there's a war in Ukraine" 😂
I guess there are unwritten rules of etiquette and for some this was a trigger, maybe the newbie should've been given a bit of leeway though but we have had newbies in the past that test the waters, push a few buttons, then just spend their entire time here being wind up merchants until they leave or get banned, very few newbies want to just get along and integrate, they either lurk, refuse to get involved, cause trouble or leave at the first disagreement. Maybe carlrick will be the one to break the trend 😀
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Post by Dave on Mar 30, 2022 16:13:38 GMT 1
We want newbies and old faithfuls to integrate I'd say that it probably is a little difficult for new posters in here once the novelty of being welcomed by everyone in the first couple of weeks wears off. I feel like a new poster at times and often decide not to butt in to some of the conversations amongst the regulars. It's still one of the friendliest boards though. If you get newbie going after less than 50 posts, then they are not able to fit in. Deleting the account I see as more of a protest to the admin.
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Mar 30, 2022 16:22:37 GMT 1
I feel like a new poster at times and often decide not to butt in to some of the conversations amongst the regulars. Do feel free to participate (not butt in) in any thread you want to. It's still one of the friendliest boards though. That's much appreciated @dave, thanks
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Post by Pablo on Mar 31, 2022 1:52:10 GMT 1
As I make it out, he was giving his opinion on the Oscars and the reaction to his opinion was a little OTT to say the least. Maybe because he was new or perhaps there's some cultural differences involved or just the need for newbies to participate in discussions.
As with bulldog, I couldn't care less with the Oscars or with any award shows. I don't enjoy watching them or the hubbub around them but that's personal preference (will happily jog on after this). Obviously it's good to know who won and all that.
Saying that I wouldn't go into a thread saying what he said or expect the reaction he got. Same as if I go into the personal charts forum and say you have poor taste in music.
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Post by Jordan on Mar 31, 2022 12:40:38 GMT 1
We must have some terribly fragile posters around here for anyone to think posts in this thread contained anything 'OTT'. In fact the closest thing to an insult came only from the member who's since deleted their account. If we have rules against sarcasm and flippancy, could the mods make that a bit clearer up front rather than coming for people after the event? Seems reasonable enough to me. But in the meantime, let the witch-hunt continue - loving it.
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Mar 31, 2022 12:50:34 GMT 1
There's no witch-hunt
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Post by Jordan on Mar 31, 2022 12:55:46 GMT 1
I'm being hyperbolic / making light of it.
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Post by o on Mar 31, 2022 16:54:39 GMT 1
Interesting to get different perspectives from different posters. Back to the case in point and I see Will Smith has apologised after his PA or Publicist told him to. I mean if you're not going to apologise on the night, or apologise the next day, and wait several days to apologise, then I'm assuming you've been pushed into it. Shame for it to overshadow him winning an oscar.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Mar 31, 2022 17:10:57 GMT 1
My favourite bit was they asked him to leave and he said no so they let him stay lol, not sure what security got paid to do
And they both got £120,000 gift bags each, if anyone wants to joke about my alopecia in exchange for £240k hit me up
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Post by Jordan on Mar 31, 2022 17:54:23 GMT 1
I disagree with all those saying he should hand is Oscar back as a result of his actions.
But I also disagree that he was the most deserving of the Oscar in that category in the first place.
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 31, 2022 19:43:46 GMT 1
It's good to know what films have been nominated for awards, both past and present, as it can provide a good clue as to what to watch if you didn't know any better.
I have been a frequent visitor to the cinema in the past few months, as well as picking films to watch on Amazon Prime (and occasionally Netflix). I have used award nominations as an indicator in some of the choices.
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