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Post by Panda on Nov 15, 2005 16:49:33 GMT 1
24-1 at the close. 174 needed to win. Another good performance from Bell would help. We could with strong innings from Collingwood and Pietersen, too.
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Post by Admin on Nov 16, 2005 8:00:10 GMT 1
Oh, we sure cocked this up!
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Post by Robin on Nov 16, 2005 9:13:06 GMT 1
We did, I blame Flintoff and Pieterson, they didn't perform when they were needed and gave away their wickets foolishly!
Still, well done to Pakistan.
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Post by Admin on Nov 16, 2005 9:41:56 GMT 1
We did, I blame Flintoff and Pieterson, they didn't perform when they were needed and gave away their wickets foolishly! Still, well done to Pakistan. Yep, exactly, flash players like that, need to think, they had all day to get a paltry total, just work it slowly, there was no hurry.
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Post by Kristofferson67 on Nov 16, 2005 10:05:33 GMT 1
Very poor.
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Post by Robin on Nov 16, 2005 10:08:47 GMT 1
What annoys me about Flintoff is, he worked so hard with the ball and bowled brilliantly, but then threw it all away with poor batting. Unfortunately in this test England seemed to be carrying Collingwood and Pieterson, and it's got to be Collingwood who makes way for Vaughan this weekend for the second test.
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Post by Tom on Nov 16, 2005 10:48:19 GMT 1
I'm disappointed with the performance today. I thought that we would have been able to reach the target with ease. If it had been 250+ then it would have been tricky, but as Robin says we shouldn't have rushed things as that seems what happened. Bit of a typical batting collapse sadly, but there's still more cricket to come. Let's hope we bounce back, we played poorly in the First Test against Australia after all.
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Post by rubcale on Nov 16, 2005 11:04:42 GMT 1
Aghast at the result but can anyone say that they honestly didn't half expect this to happen?
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Post by Robin on Nov 16, 2005 11:15:00 GMT 1
I'm sure I read earlier that we'd only ever won twice in Pakistan! Can anyone confirm if this is correct, and does it refer to two series' or two tests?
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Post by Tom on Nov 16, 2005 13:37:27 GMT 1
Aghast at the result but can anyone say that they honestly didn't half expect this to happen? Yes i agree with you, I'd forgotten it was even being played over the last few days until a couple of days before. Its probably why I didn't take much notice to begin with.
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Post by Panda on Nov 16, 2005 17:09:56 GMT 1
I'm sure I read earlier that we'd only ever won twice in Pakistan! Can anyone confirm if this is correct, and does it refer to two series' or two tests? It almost certainly refers to series. I remember the surprise when we won last time we were over there, chasing a victory target in the final test, in the dark.
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Post by Panda on Nov 16, 2005 17:14:08 GMT 1
To be fair, what happened today could've happened a couple of times in the Ashes. This time, we came up just short. What is worrying is that we can't seem to put teams away when we're on top in a test. It's always too close for comfort.
If Vaughan's fit, he'll probably replace Collingwood. There's no point keeping him in the side if he's not batting well and they're not going to use him as a bowler. His batting form has been disappointing. We know what he can do at county level and in ODIs but he's yet to transfer that to test matches. He may get a chance in the third test, as Strauss is supposed to be returning home to be with his wife who is having a baby, but he is certainly someone who is playing for his place right now.
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Post by frag on Nov 16, 2005 18:32:12 GMT 1
Aaaaand England are rubbish again...
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Post by Panda on Nov 16, 2005 23:30:59 GMT 1
I'm sure I read earlier that we'd only ever won twice in Pakistan! Can anyone confirm if this is correct, and does it refer to two series' or two tests? It almost certainly refers to series. I remember the surprise when we won last time we were over there, chasing a victory target in the final test, in the dark. Correction: It WAS tests, not series...
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Post by Robin on Nov 17, 2005 10:35:34 GMT 1
So we have only won two tests in Pakistan! Blimey! And that was the two in the previous series! I heard today that although Vaughan may return, Trescothick may have to return home due to family problems.
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Post by Panda on Nov 17, 2005 17:36:26 GMT 1
England's 2 wins in Pakistan:
1st test, Oct 1961 (England won series 1-0) 3rd test, Dec 2000 (England won series 1-0)
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Post by Robin on Nov 17, 2005 17:48:03 GMT 1
Ok. I thought we won the previous series in Pakistan 2-1, but that makes sense!
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Post by Panda on Nov 17, 2005 19:10:19 GMT 1
Interestingly, 2 Pakistan bowlers have been reported over suspect bowling actions...
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