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Post by Panda on Sept 16, 2006 18:30:15 GMT 1
How can Notts County have risen two places when we finished 4th from bottom in the Football League last season, it doesn't make any sense! The new ranking has been completely re-calculated from scratch, not just from last season. It also uses a different ranking method for the years when we had Division 3 North and South to make it fairer on the teams that have entered the league since the formation of Division 4.
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Post by Robin on Sept 17, 2006 14:00:49 GMT 1
Oh ok, ta for the explanation! I'm happy we've risen then!
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Post by Panda on Sept 17, 2006 14:28:50 GMT 1
Another additional note: If Wimbledon's league positions weren't included in MK Dons' average, MK would be down in 73rd place.
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Post by Panda on May 14, 2007 16:47:40 GMT 1
Here is the new table based on average league position following this season:
Changes from last season are shown in brackets, as well as averages for every 10th team.
1. Liverpool (average league position = 8.476) 2. Arsenal (9.146) 3. Everton 4. Manchester United 5. Aston Villa 6. Tottenham Hotspur 7. Newcastle United 8. Chelsea 9. Manchester City 10. Sunderland (15.557) 11. Leeds United 12. West Bromwich Albion 13. Blackburn Rovers 14. West Ham United (UP 1) 15. Derby County (DOWN 1) 16. Sheffield Wednesday 17. Wolverhampton Wanderers 18. Middlesbrough 19. Sheffield United 20. Bolton Wanderers (20.852) 21. Nottingham Forest 22. Birmingham City 23. Leicester City 24. Stoke City 25. Southampton 26. Ipswich Town 27. Burnley 28. Preston North End 29. Portsmouth 30. Charlton Athletic (31.848) 31. Huddersfield Town 32. Milton Keynes Dons 33. Coventry City 34. Fulham (UP 1) 35. Blackpool (DOWN 1) 36. Norwich City (UP 1) 37. Notts County (DOWN 1) 38. Luton Town 39. Queens Park Rangers 40. Bury (42.363) 41. Grimsby Town 42. Bristol City 43. Barnsley 44. Cardiff City 45. Crystal Palace 46. Oldham Athletic 47. Hull City 48. Millwall 49. Plymouth Argyle 50. Bradford City (49.602) 51. Watford (UP 2) 52. Port Vale 53. Swansea City (UP 1) 54. Brighton & Hove Albion (UP 1) 55. Reading (UP 3) 56. Rotherham United 57. Leyton Orient 58. Brentford (UP 1) 59. Swindon Town (UP 1) 60. Wigan Athletic (UP 3) (56.241) 61. Bristol Rovers 62. Chesterfield 63. Lincoln City (UP 1) 64. Stockport County (UP 1) 65. Walsall (UP 1) 66. Tranmere Rovers (UP 2) 67. Shrewsbury Town 68. AFC Bournemouth (UP 1) 69. Yeovil Town (UP 9) 70. Carlisle United (UP 1) (63.620) 71. Wycombe Wanderers (DOWN 1) 72. Doncaster Rovers 73. Southend United 74. Wrexham 75. Gillingham 76. Peterborough United (MK Dons without Wimbledon) 77. Northampton Town 78. Colchester United (UP 3) 79. Crewe Alexandra 80. Mansfield Town (69.116) 81. Scunthorpe United (UP 1) 82. Accrington Stanley (RE-ENTRY) 83. Chester City 84. Cheltenham Town (UP 1) 85. Torquay United (DOWN 1) 86. Darlington 87. Rochdale 88. Hartlepool United 89. Hereford United (RE-ENTRY) 90. Barnet (UP 1) 91. Macclesfield Town (DOWN 1) 92. Boston United (83.200)
Sidenotes:
If Torquay and Boston were removed from the list and replaced by the teams promoted to League Two, Dagenham & Redbridge and Morecambe obviously wouldn't have a placing. Exeter City would be at #85.
Although not the same club, strictly speaking, Accrington Stanley's results have been combined with those of the Accrington Stanley that played in the League from 1921-1961.
MK Dons' results have been combined with Wimbledon's. If Wimbledon's results weren't included, MK Dons would be at #76.
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Post by Tom on May 15, 2007 15:29:49 GMT 1
Slowly moving up, just like the club as a whole with its brick by brick approach over the last 5-10 years or so.
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Post by Panda on May 16, 2007 13:04:59 GMT 1
Slowly moving up, just like the club as a whole with its brick by brick approach over the last 5-10 years or so. Indeed. You might not move up next season as there's a bit of a gap between you and Brighton...
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Post by Panda on Apr 15, 2008 23:38:49 GMT 1
As ever, this will be updated at the end of the season.
Also, I'm in the process of compiling a list for the Scottish League but would appreciate some opinions on the dilemma of what to do with Airdrie United. Technically they're a continuation of Clydebank as they bought them out but they're obviously intended to be a continuation of Airdrieonians. So do I combine their results with Clydebank's, Airdrieonians' or list them as a separate club altogether? Given they way they earned their place in the league, I think I'm leaning towards the last option...
Though not relevant to this season's list, Aldershot Town will be on next season's after gaining promotion. Although not strictly the same club as the old Aldershot, I will be combining their records (like I did with Accrington Stanley) as they're same club in spirit. Same colours, same nickname, same ground. Also, the old Aldershot's original name was Aldershot Town...
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Post by o on Apr 16, 2008 12:35:21 GMT 1
I'd treat them as a new team mrh.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Apr 16, 2008 17:13:03 GMT 1
I hope Brum aren't set to overtake us...
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Post by Panda on Apr 16, 2008 17:48:14 GMT 1
I hope Brum aren't set to overtake us... It's likely to happen, regardless of where the clubs finish this season. Middlesbrough are almost certain to overtake Wolves...
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Post by Earl Purple on Apr 16, 2008 21:36:55 GMT 1
we're stuck at #50 but will probably start sliding downward. Watford are a division above us so will no doubt catch us soon. We passed them in 1996 when we went up and they went down, then were in the same division as them in 1998-99 and 1999-2000 but finished above them in both those seasons, 2001 we were a division above them, then we went down and finished below them every season I think since then.
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Post by Panda on Apr 17, 2008 13:02:52 GMT 1
we're stuck at #50 but will probably start sliding downward. Watford are a division above us so will no doubt catch us soon. We passed them in 1996 when we went up and they went down, then were in the same division as them in 1998-99 and 1999-2000 but finished above them in both those seasons, 2001 we were a division above them, then we went down and finished below them every season I think since then. There's a big enough gap in their averages to keep Bradford ahead for a few years at least... If I have time, I'll include all the teams' averages in this year's list.
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Post by Panda on May 12, 2008 11:57:24 GMT 1
Here is this year's update:
1. Liverpool (8.432) 2. Arsenal (9.087) 3. Everton (9.899) 4. Manchester United (10.886) 5. Aston Villa 6. Tottenham Hotspur 7. Newcastle United 8. Chelsea 9. Manchester City 10. Sunderland (15.551) 11. Leeds United 12. West Bromwich Albion 13. Blackburn Rovers 14. West Ham United 15. Derby County 16. Sheffield Wednesday 17. Middlesbrough (UP 1) 18. Wolverhampton Wanderers (DOWN 1) 19. Sheffield United 20. Bolton Wanderers (20.807) 21. Birmingham City (UP 1) 22. Nottingham Forest (DOWN 1) 23. Leicester City 24. Stoke City 25. Southampton 26. Ipswich Town 27. Burnley 28. Preston North End 29. Portsmouth 30. Charlton Athletic (31.838) 31. Huddersfield Town 32. Coventry City (UP 1) 33. Fulham (UP 1) 34. Milton Keynes Dons (DOWN 2) 35. Blackpool 36. Norwich City 37. Notts County 38. Luton Town 39. Queen's Park Rangers 40. Bristol City (UP 2) (42.667) 41. Bury (DOWN 1) 42. Barnsley (UP 1) 43. Cardiff City (UP 1) 44. Grimsby Town (DOWN 3) 45. Crystal Palace 46. Oldham Athletic 47. Hull City 48. Plymouth Argyle (UP 1) 49. Millwall (DOWN 1) 50. Bradford City (49.904) 51. Watford 52. Port Vale 53. Swansea City 54. Brighton & Hove Albion 55. Reading 56. Leyton Orient (UP 1) 57. Rotherham United (DOWN 1) 58. Wigan Athletic (UP 2) 59. Brentford (DOWN 1) 60. Swindon Town (DOWN 1) (56.037) 61. Bristol Rovers 62. Chesterfield 63. Lincoln City 64. Stockport County 65. Walsall 66. Tranmere Rovers 67. AFC Bournemouth (UP 1) 68. Shrewsbury Town (DOWN 1) 69. Yeovil Town 70. Carlisle United (63.403) 71. Doncaster Rovers (UP 1) 72. Southend United (UP 1) 73. Wycombe Wanderers (DOWN 2) 74. Wrexham 75. Gillingham 76. Peterborough United 77. Northampton Town (MK Dons without Wimbledon) 78. Colchester United 79. Crewe Alexandra 80. Scunthorpe United (UP 1) (68.741) 81. Mansfield Town (DOWN 1) 82. Cheltenham Town (UP 2) 83. Accrington Stanley (DOWN 1) 84. Chester City (DOWN 1) 85. Darlington (UP 1) 86. Hartlepool United (UP 2) 87. Rochdale 88. Hereford United (UP 1) 89. Morecambe (NEW) 90. Barnet (79.538) 91. Macclesfield Town 92. Dagenham & Redbridge (NEW)
If we take out Mansfield and Wrexham and put in Aldershot (with Aldershot Town using Aldershot's old results) and the Conference playoff final teams, Aldershot would be at #86, Exeter would be at #83 and Cambridge would be at #73.
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Post by Maximo Mark on May 12, 2008 12:42:42 GMT 1
How far ahead would we need to finish next year to overtake?
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Post by frag on May 12, 2008 13:36:33 GMT 1
So I guess we're still some way off Liverpool in terms of positions... about 70-80?
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Post by Panda on May 12, 2008 18:28:08 GMT 1
How far ahead would we need to finish next year to overtake? 6 places should do it. Finishing 5 places higher would make your averages even...
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Post by Panda on May 12, 2008 18:30:34 GMT 1
So I guess we're still some way off Liverpool in terms of positions... about 70-80? Yeah, about that. Barring Liverpool being relegated, you're some way off overtaking them...
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