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Post by Admin on Feb 7, 2007 22:04:54 GMT 1
Will eithee be a great game, or dull as Mansfield Town Meanie We try and play attacking footy I'll have you know! Uselessssssss rabbitting twatterssssss no diggity no woofffyyy roofffy rubbissshhhh.
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Post by bugsbunysylvester on Feb 7, 2007 22:46:59 GMT 1
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Post by bugsbunysylvester on Feb 7, 2007 22:48:02 GMT 1
LOSERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS sack him moo yooooooooooo noo diigtyy woofyy roofyy uppp
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 7, 2007 23:49:07 GMT 1
spain were better than us, cant argue with the result
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Post by Robbie on Feb 7, 2007 23:49:30 GMT 1
I'm afraid that McLaren will never count for anything - I say get rid of him.
We were woeful tonight, and we won't get much better.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 7, 2007 23:53:21 GMT 1
it was like watching boro
sorry boro fans, no disrespect, ive been very impressed with southgates attacking football of late
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Post by Matt Aloud on Feb 8, 2007 0:01:56 GMT 1
at least Boro are unbeaten this year Some of the starting decisions were completely baffling though :/ Why Phil Neville at left back, why SWP on the right when Dyer should have gone there with Defoe and Crouch up front. Lampard can't play with Gerrard period.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 8, 2007 0:04:03 GMT 1
i was on about boro when they played under a certain england manager
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Post by Matt Aloud on Feb 8, 2007 0:07:24 GMT 1
i was on about boro when they played under a certain england manager not Terry Vegetables then
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 8, 2007 0:14:38 GMT 1
why not attack and play football?
lampard is useless, we know he can control a ball and shoot from anywhere, so play scott parker or joey barton.
if i paid to see that shower of sh*t i would be gutted
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 8, 2007 0:15:45 GMT 1
i was on about boro when they played under a certain england manager not Terry Vegetables then lol i think you kno which former boro manager
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Post by Pablo on Feb 8, 2007 1:23:22 GMT 1
Very dull, it looked like we dominated for the first 10-15 mins but gradually dropped quality until Barry came on and after Spain's goal, there was no desperation for an equaliser! Also noticed that McClaren was sitting on his backside for most of the second half when he was up most of the time in the first half. Is this normal for him?
At least we can take something out of the game - McClaren is a genius for calling up at least a 1/4 of the squad who have just recovered from injuries and probably knew wouldn't play, Woodgate had a solid performance at the back and Foster (and some ways, Barton) had a good debut despite the goal.
If we play like this against Israel, well who knows what might happen.
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Post by Admin on Feb 8, 2007 9:59:18 GMT 1
The Lampard/gerard debate continues, I just dont see how you can drop either, as both are world class players, we miss someone on the left like joe cole as well, downing just isn't up to it. It means we rely on the right with wright-phillips and he's not match fit enough at the mo. And we of course miss Owen up front. Foster did look ok in goals which is good, Israel will be tough, they like to draw.
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Post by Earl Purple on Feb 8, 2007 10:25:17 GMT 1
Israel might have settled for a draw before but having lost at home to Croatia I think they'll be aiming to win at home, and get a draw in England.
I would not play Lampard and Gerrard together in midfield, probably one of them with Michael Carrick. If I played Kieron Dyer at all it would be on the right wing, Aaron Lennon can play left-wing too though he would be my number one choice on the right wing. Obviously would be useful to have Rooney available but without him I might have called up Leroy Lita for the first team, as I really don't rate Defoe but I'd still rather have Crouch and Defoe up front together than Crouch and Dyer.
The England team do need a lot more confidence in their ability when they are playing against a reasonably big-name team. I haven't seen it for a long time.
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Post by Tom on Feb 8, 2007 10:56:58 GMT 1
Despite what I said before, watched the 2nd half and bits of the 1st half, which shows that despite the complete frustration at the performances, and knowing where this is going to lead us I do still care about England. Can't really comment on Gerrard as I didn't see enough of him in his time on the pitch, but Lampard just doesnt play well enough. Only 1 of them can play the attacking midfield role, and as Gerrard was the captain (and would play better as captain imo) there's no room for Lampard. Spain strolled through the game, but their goal didnt come as much of a surprise, it was just starting to look likely.
McLaren's substitutions were interesting. The first 3 were obviously pre-meditated, but the last 3 were because the players that were replaced were probably in McLaren's eyes the worst players on the pitch. Wright-Phillips was poor, and the sooner he gets out of Chelsea and receives one to one coaching the better. He's not the same player as he once was. Phil Neville is never going to offer an attacking threat at left-back, and playing with no protection in front of him in the 4-3-3 in the 1st half he was always going to look exposed.
On the point about Lita or any other Reading player being called up. Everytime I watch England I think why would I want any of our players being affected by playing in an England team low in confidence atm, apart from anything else. Although Crouch would be the perfect partner for Lita. Since the Croatia mess I'm not the only fan that wonders what Coppell would do with that squad..
Overall if we continue not to create chances we will lose to Israel, playing for a draw won't be good enough and defeat would make qualifying very very tough.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 8, 2007 11:16:24 GMT 1
lampard and gerrard are world class but together sadly 95% of the time as a team they are average.
and dont get me started on "michael 3 yard pass" carrick. how the f*** did he give the ball away 30 times when all he playes a are square balls accross the midfield!
phil neville, carrick, lampard and wright phillips should not play against isreal. i think foster did enough to warrent a start in a propper game to, robinsons distribution has been sh*te lately.
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Post by Si. on Feb 8, 2007 11:20:13 GMT 1
that was such a dull game after the first 5 minutes. we should have taken a gamble and played players that need to prove a point to get in the team, instead we kept with as many of the ones who have failed, and they showed how they shouldnt be there.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 8, 2007 11:37:30 GMT 1
we shoulod of brought in a no nonsence manager, who had no ties with the loosing squad.
the trouble is the manager has been around the squad for 5 year or whatever and has favoured personel, they are untouchable
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Post by Si. on Feb 8, 2007 11:41:35 GMT 1
put venebles in charge, until pearce is ready
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Post by Mart!n on Feb 8, 2007 12:36:50 GMT 1
I didn't watch it, friendly games are a bit tedious to watch, I heard they lost it, they have no hope against Israel away, if McClaren chooses the under rated players.
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