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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Mar 23, 2008 20:48:09 GMT 1
she is at uni in leeds but is back here for easter.
im just north and inland from boro, about 25 mile away
think sunderland is 28 miles north and then newcastle right next to sunderland so i tend to say in the middle but if your going north to south im closer to boro
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Post by Tom on Mar 26, 2008 16:22:06 GMT 1
Wow, what weather you have snow and hail in the 2nd half, and that wind could cut you in 2! Good game, but you seemed like you wanted to let Derby score in the 2nd half. Good goal by Tuncay, aliadiere went down injured after every tackle, prima donna, and why pay all that money for alves just to run up and down the side of the pitch? Saying that, when he cane on, he looked as clumsy as a clown with the ball at his feet Ground is great, fab directions mrh Couldn't get in til after 2pm though as the derby coach was late arriving, and it was right outside our turnstile! Meant we got to see loads of players driving up in their huge cars though I'm sure we will return, when it's warmer, I can just about feel my toes now We had bad weather for the Reading match Saturday too, rain on and off on the way there, and snow on and off throughout the afternoon, some of which was quite heavy around the M26 coming back. We often get to see the players arriving, my dad's taken pictures on occasions but i'm too shy to ask for an autograph, not a kid anymore Glad you had a good day, my dad and i both said while watching MOTD that it was quite embarassing really how many empty seats there were. Can't really criticise though, it could be us in a few years time once the stadium expansion has been done!
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Post by Tom on Mar 26, 2008 16:34:34 GMT 1
How much were tickets, if you don't mind me asking? ;d My dad and brother are going to see Bolton - Arsenal next sunday, £44! Which is excellent considering you can pay over 20 to watch Forest! Bloody hell! I thought Bolton tickets were cheap! Their UEFA Cup games have only been a tenner this season. I know that was a special deal but when Blackburn charge £15 and Wigan £20 for Premiership games i thought it would be about the same. I didn't think £35 at the Mad Stad was good value to watch the Platinum category games (eg Man U, Arsenal etc), but £44 is just steep! And the price that Forest charge isn't really above the norm. Most clubs in League 1 seem to charge around £20. Gillingham charge £20-25, only the uncovered stand which is shared with the away fans is less (£17), complete joke £27 for mine and £9 for Sam, plus a £2 credit card over the phone charge. I'm off to watch Bury on monday and think that is only £15 for me and Sam, brilliant and Macclesfield is only £14, cant believe the Stags charge £17-18 Yea the Stags are expensive, most clubs in League 2 charge £14-£16, but Shrewsbury AFAIK charge £19!
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Post by Maximo Mark on Mar 26, 2008 16:39:25 GMT 1
How much were tickets, if you don't mind me asking? ;d My dad and brother are going to see Bolton - Arsenal next sunday, £44! Which is excellent considering you can pay over 20 to watch Forest! Bloody hell! I thought Bolton tickets were cheap, their UEFA Cup games have only been a tenner this season. I know that was a special deal but when Blackburn charge £15 and Wigan £20 for Premiership games i thought it would be about the same. I didn't think £35 at the Mad Stad was good value to watch the Platinum category games (eg Man U, Arsenal etc), but £44 is just steep! And the price that Forest charge isn't really above the norm. Most clubs in League 1 seem to charge around £20. Gillingham charge £20-25, only the uncovered stand which is shared with the away fans is less (£17), complete joke It's £44 for two people, not each!
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Post by Tom on Mar 26, 2008 16:44:14 GMT 1
Bloody hell! I thought Bolton tickets were cheap, their UEFA Cup games have only been a tenner this season. I know that was a special deal but when Blackburn charge £15 and Wigan £20 for Premiership games i thought it would be about the same. I didn't think £35 at the Mad Stad was good value to watch the Platinum category games (eg Man U, Arsenal etc), but £44 is just steep! And the price that Forest charge isn't really above the norm. Most clubs in League 1 seem to charge around £20. Gillingham charge £20-25, only the uncovered stand which is shared with the away fans is less (£17), complete joke It's £44 for two people, not each! Oops That is indeed excellent value, here's hoping Bolton get thumped
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Post by o on Mar 26, 2008 21:36:56 GMT 1
Ground was quite full actually, it was the away end that was empty, plus they'd had to shut a section due to water getting into the electrics.
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Post by Tom on Apr 25, 2008 16:19:27 GMT 1
I read last week that Boro are interested in Bikey. It was only a matter of time before he was linked with other clubs after his performances since coming back into the team. He's shown in the month and a half he's been in the side why he should have played a lot more this season IMO. One of the few players who has character and isn't simply a confidence player. We'd badly miss him if he left.
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Post by Panda on Apr 25, 2008 16:23:14 GMT 1
That's the first I've heard about that one...
Boro were linked with something like 80 players in the press last summer (the official website even listed them all!) so this will just be the start.
Players I've heard us linked with so far:
Jimmy Bullard Boaz Myhill
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Post by Panda on Mar 21, 2009 22:50:27 GMT 1
So looking ahead to next season, I have no idea what's going to happen.
We could come straight back up but it's worrying the number of ex-Premier League teams languishing near the bottom of the Championship.
I think Southgate should go, but I have a feeling he might still be there. I'm sick of hearing journalists and other managers say what a great manager he will be in the future. We can't afford to let him have another few years to get good. Yes, the players must take a lot of responsibility as well, but Southgate signed most of them. He chooses the tactics. It's his job to motivate them. It's his job to strengthen areas of the squad that are weak. He has failed on every front.
Downing will be on his way. Probably Tuncay as well. Alves will want to go but we'll do well to find anyone willing to pay more than £5m for him. At least the Downing money will allow us to bring in some replacements (and some bloody midfielders!). A new goalkeeper would help as well.
At least our young players have tended to do well when they've been on loan at Championship clubs so there's reason to be optimistic there. I still think there's a gulf in class between the Premier League and Championship. You just have to find a way to win when you move up/down a division. If you don't adapt, you won't succeed.
At least we should win more games than we have this season.
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Post by Tom on Mar 23, 2009 17:00:36 GMT 1
I like what you've done here Although you're looking more doomed with each passing week i wouldnt right Boro off just yet. You've still got games against those around you to come havent you? Assuming you did go down i would be surprised if you didnt finish Top 6 next season. That goes for the other relegated sides as well. The Championship is a poor league and the Prem has been stronger this season than it was last - hence the reason why all 3 promoted teams will come straight back down next season imo..Reading would have been fighting it out with the Baggies to avoid finishing bottom had we stayed up too.. On Southgate, was only thinking the other day what would happen to him if Boro went down. My guess is that he'd probably be given one season to get you back up. I still find the position you find yourselves in rather baffling. I expected 15th/16th pre-season and i've seen nothing this season to suggest you deserve to finish any lower than that.
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Post by frag on Mar 23, 2009 20:29:14 GMT 1
Although you're looking more doomed with each passing week i wouldnt right Boro off just yet. You've still got games against those around you to come havent you? They've just had a home draw against Portsmouth and a defeat at Stoke, and that will have been looked at as a "minimum four points from six" period. There are still games to come against Hull (home) and Newcastle (away), and whereas the rest of their opponents look safe, they still have winnable games against Bolton away, and Fulham (poor away) at home. So yes, they're looking doomed now, but 4 points in 8 games would be nothing compared to the escapes we've seen in the past few seasons.
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Post by o on Mar 24, 2009 13:46:59 GMT 1
Getting rid of Downing would be good, 2nd half he was non existant!
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Post by Panda on Mar 25, 2009 0:21:13 GMT 1
Although you're looking more doomed with each passing week i wouldnt right Boro off just yet. You've still got games against those around you to come havent you? As frag has already mentioned, they're the ones we keep losing... Assuming you did go down i would be surprised if you didnt finish Top 6 next season. That goes for the other relegated sides as well. The Championship is a poor league and the Prem has been stronger this season than it was last - hence the reason why all 3 promoted teams will come straight back down next season imo..Reading would have been fighting it out with the Baggies to avoid finishing bottom had we stayed up too.. That's good to hear from a Championship supporter. Boro fans tend to be a pessimistic bunch and I've heard a lot of people say we'd be mid-table in the Championship next season, especially if Gareth is still in charge... Personally, I'd be surprised if we weren't in the top 6. I know Wolves weren't at full-strength when we beat them in the FA Cup, but they looked a poor side and if they're the best the Championship has to offer, we should at least be in the promotion hunt. On Southgate, was only thinking the other day what would happen to him if Boro went down. My guess is that he'd probably be given one season to get you back up. . My gut feeling is also that he'll be given one more season, though personally, I'd rather see Stuart Pearce or Paul Ince in charge.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Mar 25, 2009 12:07:53 GMT 1
If are relegated and you keep most of your squad I can't see you finishing outside the top 6. The fact that pretty much anyone can beat anyone else (bar Charlton!) proves that the quality isn't really there. Sheff Utd look like they could well go up. Apart from Kenny and maybe Kilgallon I don't think they have anyone who could be a first team regular at Premiership level.
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Post by Tom on Mar 27, 2009 17:27:35 GMT 1
The Championship is full of average sides who pass the ball well and don't concede many (this may have changed in the 2nd half of the season but i was quite shocked around Xmas time to see how few goals the bottom half teams had conceded) but just have no cutting edge. Swansea looked like they fitted this criteria perfectly in the 1st half of the season until their vast improvement, and off the top of my head there's also Donny, Cov, QPR, Forest (opening weekend) etc. Im not even sure Brum have much cutting edge either!
The less said about those sides who try to cheat their way to points the better, mentioning no names...*cough* Forest/Cardiff *cough*
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Post by Maximo Mark on Mar 27, 2009 21:23:18 GMT 1
To be fair, the only time I've ever seen any complaining about Forest's conduct this season was the Reading game. A game we went into having slipped back into the bottom 3 with 1 draw and 5 defeats in our previous 6 games. We weren't expected to take anything from Reading away, a point would've been a huge bonus, so when we took the lead it was hardly a surprise that we might not have had the best of conducts. Let's face it, which teams would in the same situation? You'll take a result at almost any cost!
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Post by Panda on Mar 27, 2009 21:45:16 GMT 1
I don't remember Reading standing aside to let Watford score after Stuart Atwell awarded that phantom "goal"...
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Post by Tom on Mar 29, 2009 12:14:58 GMT 1
To be fair, the only time I've ever seen any complaining about Forest's conduct this season was the Reading game. A game we went into having slipped back into the bottom 3 with 1 draw and 5 defeats in our previous 6 games. We weren't expected to take anything from Reading away, a point would've been a huge bonus, so when we took the lead it was hardly a surprise that we might not have had the best of conducts. Let's face it, which teams would in the same situation? You'll take a result at almost any cost! It wasn't just timewasting after you scored, could have accepted that, its part and parcel of the game, but it was throughout the game from start to finish and quite frankly Billy Davies, Earnshaw (who both should have been sent off) (and Chopra for that matter from what i've read) should all be ashamed of themselves After you scored i turned a blind eye to it really as i knew it wasnt going to get any better and was more concerned with the team getting back into the game. But if we'd done what Forest did that day i would have been ashamed. There were people saying afterwards that they hoped that Forest went down, and tbh on the day itself i couldnt really have disagreed with them.. my opinion of Forest has gone right down. Anyway, ive mentioned it enough on the Reading thread itself. I don't remember Reading standing aside to let Watford score after Stuart Atwell awarded that phantom "goal"... I doubt Watford would have done the same for us if it had been the other way round... Anyway, its a sticking point that which i dont really want to go into, and it was the officials incompetence that led to it in the first place. Forests conduct was all their own doing, though if the referee had been stronger and got his cards out then it may well have been cut out sooner. Sorry for the rant, clearly opened up a can of worms haven't i?!
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Mar 29, 2009 13:40:21 GMT 1
so it was the referees incompetence that lead to the reading goal that never was, but it was readings choice not to show any decency or sportsmanship to even things out like many a team in the past have done even under lesser circumstances, arsenal v shef utd springs to mind. the reason reading never did so was to aid their number one target, win the game at any cost.
as apposed to the referee letting forest get away with dirty tactics against reading because forest needed the points at all costs. was it forests fault the referee was incompetent and did not deal with the situation, after all if he let everything go then in the referees eyes everything was played within the letter of the law so if there is an issue it is again referee incompetence
just pointing out as a neutral the obvious biased opinions, you know there are forest fans on the board so to say they cheat was bound to provoke a reaction and as a neutral who has seen them play many times this year it is clear they are not a dirty team, but needs must
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Post by Tom on Mar 30, 2009 9:50:35 GMT 1
so it was the referees incompetence that lead to the reading goal that never was, but it was readings choice not to show any decency or sportsmanship to even things out like many a team in the past have done even under lesser circumstances, arsenal v shef utd springs to mind. the reason reading never did so was to aid their number one target, win the game at any cost. as apposed to the referee letting forest get away with dirty tactics against reading because forest needed the points at all costs. was it forests fault the referee was incompetent and did not deal with the situation, after all if he let everything go then in the referees eyes everything was played within the letter of the law so if there is an issue it is again referee incompetence just pointing out as a neutral the obvious biased opinions, you know there are forest fans on the board so to say they cheat was bound to provoke a reaction and as a neutral who has seen them play many times this year it is clear they are not a dirty team, but needs must I never said we were right not to let Watford score. Coppell actually offered to replay the game but wasnt allowed to (dont think he was fully aware at the time the enormity of the situation) but the suggestion is that Watford were quite happy with the point as the injustice of the goal seemed to spur them on to get back into the game. We were well on top when that goal was given. Also Attwell seemingly gave cast iron decisions against us afterwards with the "ghost goal" at the back of his mind. I don't think Forest are generally a dirty team which is why their actions surprised me. Im sorry but im not going to lie, they were a dirty team that day. They actually showed in the 2nd half that they didnt need to play that way to get a result. I actually think i was quite careful with what i said after the game in the Reading thread knowing that Mark is around, its why i never post on the day of games, gives me time to compose my thoughts, but never mind.. This is why i hate controversy regarding Reading on here, and its another reason why i wont bother with the Reading thread next season. Anyway ive just about had enough of this
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