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Post by bugsbunysylvester on Aug 22, 2007 21:26:15 GMT 1
england playing way better looking like 1 upsteares dont want dem score ;D moooo# yooooooooooooo nooo diigtyy upppppppppp
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Post by Mart!n on Aug 22, 2007 22:02:34 GMT 1
Well.. that was a bit of a chore, England played well in the first 20 mins after that it went terribly wrong. Football is might to be a beautiful game, well it was a friendly match the next two games against Israel and Russia are crucial for them, any more hiccups they won't be going nowhere next year.
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Post by o on Aug 22, 2007 22:08:23 GMT 1
My dead gran could have put away that Owen chance!
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Post by Earl Purple on Aug 22, 2007 22:44:42 GMT 1
I'm just hoping for some goalkeeping howlers against Israel.
Although Croatia's goalkeeper gifted Israel a goal but Israel still lost.
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Post by Robin on Aug 22, 2007 22:54:59 GMT 1
Israel looked pretty crap and negative when England played them last so we'll have to play really badly to lose against them. Still a draw is no use, we can't afford to drop any more points. Hopefully Gerrard will be fit again.
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Post by Pablo on Aug 23, 2007 0:38:50 GMT 1
The 2nd half of an England match is so uneventful! Almost fell asleep Enjoyed the first half though, cracking play by Richards. Big question now is that will McClaren stick with Robinson after tonight's match?...
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Post by o on Aug 23, 2007 10:30:31 GMT 1
Ok, Robinson made a mistake, but it annoys me that everyone forgets Owen's miss that would have made it 2-2, surely missing an open goal is as big a crime as making a goalkeeping mistake? Plus was Robinson just to blame, surely the defender who cleared the ball from the 1st attack, should have hoofed it into touch, not to their winger? 2nd the defender (ferdinand) should have closed the winger down, blocked the cross! yes Robinson was on his 6 yard line, how did he know the ball would swerve under the bar, he parries that, and who responds first, the england defence? I just think the knives are out, and sometimes it is unfair, when a goalie makes a mistake, it's a goal, but what when a striker misses a sitter, they dont seem to get the same criticism. Same goes for the 2nd goal, again Ferdinand stood too far off the german, cracking goal, but why wasn't he closed down quicker?
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Post by Tom on Aug 23, 2007 11:07:46 GMT 1
Missed the first 15-20 mins, but despite the poor second half I'm not sure how we lost that game. After Robinson's howler we actually created the better chances, and in a few weeks time for the important games Owen will be sharp enough to be putting those chances away. Richards and Wright-Phillips, when he came on, were immense last night. Richards will surely play right-back in the qualifying games, and as a player in form Wright-Phillips has to start. But the big mystery was why Beckham who clearly isnt fully fit (he was limping in training only a couple of days before the match) played the full 90 mins. He faded away in the 2nd half, and apart from anything else he could have risked further injury. Was a welcome surprise to see Shorey play, but he didnt have a good game. His passing was poor at times, and in the 2nd half he was often exposed when the game became stretched. His pace is his main weakness and at times it showed last night. He did appear to be limping towards the end of the match, so i hope thats not too serious.
Its a shame that Lita is injured atm, as I'm pretty certain he would have been in the squad otherwise.
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Post by Mart!n on Aug 23, 2007 11:50:13 GMT 1
Owen had 2 clear opportunities though, I think he needed to go the Specsavers before the game.
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Post by Tom on Aug 23, 2007 12:10:36 GMT 1
Owen had 2 clear opportunities though, I think he needed to go the Specsavers before the game. You're being rather harsh. The first chance was the best save of the match from Lehmann, it looked a certain goal from where I was watching. Yes the 2nd chance was a poor miss, he rushed it thinking that Lehmann was going to get up quickly. But remember it was only his 2nd game back from injury, and his first start of the season. Owen normally takes a while to build up his match fitness and confidence following injury. Plus in the bigger games he rises to the occasion, he never really performs amazingly well in friendlies.
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Post by o on Aug 23, 2007 12:41:49 GMT 1
I did think beckham was poor apart from one free kick where Smith made the run for the flick on.
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Post by suedehead on Aug 23, 2007 14:49:28 GMT 1
Richards certainly had an excellent game. If I was a Man C fan I'd be starting to wonder whether he'll move as soon as January or wait until next summer.
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Post by o on Aug 23, 2007 15:04:46 GMT 1
If Sven can keep them at the top of the table, he'll stay there I'm sure
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Post by suedehead on Aug 23, 2007 15:29:27 GMT 1
I think that's a rather big if. Mind you it would make things interesting. Sven for England!
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 23, 2007 19:38:25 GMT 1
Plus was Robinson just to blame, surely the defender who cleared the ball from the 1st attack, should have hoofed it into touch, not to their winger? This was also Robinson's fault! Shorey was going to kick it out and Robinson came from behind him to poke a half-arsed clearence to their player. It was an odd decision really, I thought with him running towards goal the sensible thing would've been to top it over, not back into play.
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Post by Panda on Aug 24, 2007 12:33:25 GMT 1
I'm just hoping for some goalkeeping howlers against Israel. It won't matter if Israel do what they usually do and play not to lose rather than to win.
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Post by Earl Purple on Aug 24, 2007 16:29:39 GMT 1
Forwards miss open goals. That happens. Tevez missed one for Man Utd against Man City. Owen lacks match practice and hopefully he'll start scoring again for Newcastle and will get his form back in time for the 2010 World Cup Qualifiers...
James was dropped after his poor performances, especially against Denmark and worked hard at Portsmouth to get himself back on form and back into the team. Robinson should work on improving his game at Tottenham until he's good enough that he can't be overlooked. I have found that Robinson doesn't seem to command his area very well. Tottenham's defence is often a shambles and he must take much of the blame.
I really don't think any other goalkeepers are good enough.
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Post by Robbie on Aug 24, 2007 20:42:11 GMT 1
I can't quite see how Owen is going to get great match practice and sharpness playing for Newcastle, given our developing style of high balls into the box. Unless Owen gets fit by running round and not getting anywhere as the rest of our (Newcastle) attack appear to be doing.
I'll be interested to see if Owen even starts the game on Sunday, I'm guessing he might start as a sub again. Unless he scores in our next two games he's gonna be even more down about his confidence when the next England match comes around.
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