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Post by Thor on Feb 3, 2009 22:58:37 GMT 1
Doha was ruled out of the Olympics because they insisted on it being later in the year. I think they'd do the same thing here. You can't expect football seasons to be pushed back to allow for a world cup.
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Post by Thor on Feb 3, 2009 23:09:41 GMT 1
30k will do me thinks. Why Portman road is acceptable. 40k is the minimum for World Cup stadia
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Post by Paddy on Feb 3, 2009 23:19:03 GMT 1
Is that in the rules? Or just fan rules?
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Post by Thor on Feb 3, 2009 23:20:54 GMT 1
It's the official rules.
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Post by Paddy on Feb 3, 2009 23:22:42 GMT 1
Fair enough.
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Post by suedehead on Feb 3, 2009 23:23:06 GMT 1
Doha was ruled out of the Olympics because they insisted on it being later in the year. I think they'd do the same thing here. You can't expect football seasons to be pushed back to allow for a world cup. I don't agree. Why should a country be unable to bid for the World Cup just because their climate doesn't fit in with the usual June/July timetable?
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Post by Thor on Feb 3, 2009 23:33:24 GMT 1
Doha was ruled out of the Olympics because they insisted on it being later in the year. I think they'd do the same thing here. You can't expect football seasons to be pushed back to allow for a world cup. I don't agree. Why should a country be unable to bid for the World Cup just because their climate doesn't fit in with the usual June/July timetable? Putting it in September would screw up national leagues for at least 2 seasons. What about leagues with winter breaks? They'd only be able to get in a few games before christmas. If there are other strong bids on the table this would definitely be a reason to avoid a tournament in Qatar. As was seen at the Olympics, weaker bids were put through to the next stage based solely on this drawback.
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Post by suedehead on Feb 3, 2009 23:45:53 GMT 1
I don't agree. Why should a country be unable to bid for the World Cup just because their climate doesn't fit in with the usual June/July timetable? Putting it in September would screw up national leagues for at least 2 seasons. What about leagues with winter breaks? They'd only be able to get in a few games before christmas. So what? As long as the venue is announced well in advance, it should be possible to arrange domestic leagues to fit in with the timetable. The reason for rejecting a country like Qatar at the moment should be that they are rubbish at football rather than something they can't alter such as their climate.
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Post by Paddy on Feb 3, 2009 23:50:47 GMT 1
Could have the world cup in mid winter and the leagues in rest of year easily. Its not that hard to have the floodlights set up at each ground, it would be warm evening kick off's and the players get paid enough to not moan. It's a one off season!
I don't see why Qatar can't whatsoever.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Feb 4, 2009 0:36:28 GMT 1
I read something on the BBC a few weeks back about Qatar's footballing ambitions. They certainly want to go places and the World Cup (probably 2022) is what they're aiming for. They've recently held the Asian Champions League equivelent final which was a huge success...
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Post by Maximo Mark on Feb 4, 2009 0:39:28 GMT 1
I don't agree. Why should a country be unable to bid for the World Cup just because their climate doesn't fit in with the usual June/July timetable? Putting it in September would screw up national leagues for at least 2 seasons. What about leagues with winter breaks? They'd only be able to get in a few games before christmas. If there are other strong bids on the table this would definitely be a reason to avoid a tournament in Qatar. As was seen at the Olympics, weaker bids were put through to the next stage based solely on this drawback. Well considering the South American leagues, MLS, J-League and a host of European Leagues (the Scandanavian countries, Russia etc) hold their leagues from around March-November anyway and have to take breaks every two/four years for major tournaments. I don't see why the rest of the world (which is actually probably in the minority) shouldn't have to do it just once, especially if, as Suedehead said, the relevant FA's know years in advance.
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Post by Panda on Feb 4, 2009 9:22:46 GMT 1
The reason for rejecting a country like Qatar at the moment should be that they are rubbish at football rather than something they can't alter such as their climate. They're no worse than South Africa...
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Post by Panda on Feb 4, 2009 9:58:08 GMT 1
Perhaps it would make more sense to have it in January if Qatar got it?
That way it wouldn't affect those who play during the European summer. It would fall in the winter break for those that have it and it would allow the European leagues to have a winter break without disrupting the start and end of the season too much. They could just start 3-4 weeks earlier, and finish a few weeks later as June would then be free...
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Post by Thor on Feb 4, 2009 13:25:09 GMT 1
Perhaps it would make more sense to have it in January if Qatar got it? That way it wouldn't affect those who play during the European summer. It would fall in the winter break for those that have it and it would allow the European leagues to have a winter break without disrupting the start and end of the season too much. They could just start 3-4 weeks earlier, and finish a few weeks later as June would then be free... There would then be a huge fixture pile up for the qualfication stages of the European Championship only a year and a half later.
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Post by Panda on Feb 4, 2009 13:38:12 GMT 1
Perhaps it would make more sense to have it in January if Qatar got it? That way it wouldn't affect those who play during the European summer. It would fall in the winter break for those that have it and it would allow the European leagues to have a winter break without disrupting the start and end of the season too much. They could just start 3-4 weeks earlier, and finish a few weeks later as June would then be free... There would then be a huge fixture pile up for the qualfication stages of the European Championship only a year and a half later. It could be brought forward to January, rather than moved back. There's enough international dates to ensure qualifying is finished the previous summer, if the pointless friendlies are ditched and they stop b*llocks like the Confederations Cup. Then they still get the 6-month gap after the finals draw is made and Euro qualifying begins as normal the season after the World Cup.
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Post by suedehead on Feb 5, 2009 22:35:53 GMT 1
Perhaps it would make more sense to have it in January if Qatar got it? That way it wouldn't affect those who play during the European summer. It would fall in the winter break for those that have it and it would allow the European leagues to have a winter break without disrupting the start and end of the season too much. They could just start 3-4 weeks earlier, and finish a few weeks later as June would then be free... There would then be a huge fixture pile up for the qualfication stages of the European Championship only a year and a half later. That can be resolved. Hold a pre-qualifying competition involving the likes of Andorra to eliminate some countries then have final qualifying groups of, say, five countries rather than seven. That final tournament needn't last longer than one calendar year.
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