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Post by Panda on Nov 25, 2007 15:49:45 GMT 1
Starting shortly...
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Post by Panda on Nov 25, 2007 16:35:27 GMT 1
Asian draw:
GROUP 1 Australia China Iraq Qatar
GROUP 2 Japan Bahrain Oman Thailand
GROUP 3 South Korea North Korea Jordan Turkmenistan
GROUP 4 Saudi Arabia Uzbekistan Lebanon Singapore
GROUP 5 Iran Kuwait United Arab Emirates Syria
Top 2 in each group qualify for the next stage.
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Post by Panda on Nov 25, 2007 17:01:41 GMT 1
CONCACAF draw:
GROUP A Dominica v Barbados USA v Dominica or Barbados Turks & Caicos Islands v St. Lucia Guatemala v Turks & Caicos Islands or St. Lucia Bermuda v Cayman Islands Trinidad & Tobago v Bermuda or Cayman Islands Aruba v Antigua & Barbuda Aruba or Antigua & Barbuda v Cuba
GROUP B Belize v St. Kitts & Nevis Belize or St. Kitts & Nevis v Mexico Bahamas v British Virgin Islands Jamaica v Bahamas or British Virgin Islands Dominican Republic v Puerto Rico Honduras v Dominican Republic or Honduras Canada v St. Vincent & The Grenadines
GROUP C Grenada v US Virgin Islands Grenada or US Virgin Islands v Costa Rica Surinam v Montserrat Surinam or Montserrat v Guyana El Salvador v Anguilla Panama v El Salvador or Anguilla Nicaragua v Netherlands Antilles Haiti v Nicaragua or Netherlands Antilles
Winners from knockout rounds go forward to the 1st group stage and will play in the groups they are listed under above.
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Post by frag on Nov 25, 2007 17:16:04 GMT 1
Ukraine
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Post by frag on Nov 25, 2007 17:21:48 GMT 1
England's group:
Croatia England Ukraine Belarus Kazakhstan Andorra
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Post by frag on Nov 25, 2007 17:23:04 GMT 1
Could have been worse... look at Scotland's group: Netherlands, Scotland, Norway, Macedonia, Iceland
Could have been a *lot* better - look at Israel's group! Greece Israel Switzerland Moldova Latvia Luxembourg
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Post by wonderwall on Nov 25, 2007 17:23:09 GMT 1
England's group: Croatia England Ukraine Belarus Kazakhstan Andorra im happy with that could have been much worse
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Post by Panda on Nov 25, 2007 17:24:35 GMT 1
European draw:
GROUP 1 Portugal Sweden Denmark Hungary Albania Malta
GROUP 2 Greece Israel Switzerland Moldova Latvia Luxembourg
GROUP 3 Czech Republic Poland Northern Ireland Slovakia Slovenia San Marino
GROUP 4 Germany Russia Finland Wales Azerbaijan Liechtenstein
GROUP 5 Spain Turkey Belgium Bosnia-Herzegovina Armenia Estonia
GROUP 6 Croatia England Ukraine Belarus Kazakhstan Andorra
GROUP 7 France Romania Serbia Lithuania Austria Faroe Islands
GROUP 8 Italy Bulgaria Rep. of Ireland Cyprus Georgia Montenegro
GROUP 9 Netherlands Scotland Norway Macedonia Iceland
The 9 group winners qualify automatically, the best 8 runners-up go into the play-offs.
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Post by Doctor Blind on Nov 25, 2007 17:24:52 GMT 1
Croatia again...
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Post by Thor on Nov 25, 2007 17:25:57 GMT 1
Could have been worse... look at Scotland's group: Netherlands, Scotland, Norway, Macedonia, Iceland Could have been a *lot* better - look at Israel's group! Greece Israel Switzerland Moldova Latvia Luxembourg I laughed at that group too. I'm hoping for a Latvian revival. Possibly the weakest group in memory.
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Post by Tom on Nov 25, 2007 17:32:35 GMT 1
As others have said while Ukraine isn't going to be easy it could have been worse, at least we avoided teams like Italy and France, and hopefully the two defeats to Croatia in Euro 2008 qualifying will fire the players up to gain revenge this time. At worst we should finish 2nd and make the playoffs.
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Post by frag on Nov 25, 2007 17:33:05 GMT 1
South Africa are going to be taking part in qualifying...
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Post by Earl Purple on Nov 25, 2007 17:34:20 GMT 1
Could have been worse... look at Scotland's group: Netherlands, Scotland, Norway, Macedonia, Iceland Could have been a *lot* better - look at Israel's group! Greece Israel Switzerland Moldova Latvia Luxembourg I think it's only one automatic qualifier, and I'm not sure who there is seeded, Greece or Switzerland. Not sure why you called it "Israel's group". were Israel the 2nd seed? I'm hoping Israel can qualify from that group, after Switzerland pipped them for the last world cup in a group that also contained France. Greece are good at European Championships now but not sure if they will be good for World Cups by then.
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Post by Thor on Nov 25, 2007 17:38:02 GMT 1
South Africa are going to be taking part in qualifying... They act as African Nations Cup qualifiers too.
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Post by S1m on Nov 25, 2007 17:42:51 GMT 1
England Vs. Kazakhstan should be fun! We can burn Borats.
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Post by frag on Nov 25, 2007 17:44:33 GMT 1
European draw analysis...
Because it was more interesting than a maths question, I assigned points to each group based on the teams in it. For the first three pots, the #1 (FIFA-ranked) team was given 9 points, the #2 team 8 points, and so on down to the #9 team, given 1 point. Same structure for pot 4, except the points values were halved. Pots 5 and 6: ignored.
The results of this: overall, England's group is the third-strongest, but mainly because of the 9 points from England - disregarding all pot 2 points, England's group is the second-weakest.
Overall ranking: 1=. Group 7 and Group 9 (21 pts) 3. Group 6 (20.5 pts) 4. Group 5 (19 pts) 5=. Groups 3 and 8 (18 pts) 7. Group 4 (16.5 pts) 8. Group 1 (15.5 pts - surprising as it looks fairly tough) 9. Group 2 (7 pts)
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Post by Panda on Nov 25, 2007 17:51:16 GMT 1
African draw:
GROUP 1 Cameroon Cape Verde Islands Tanzania Mauritius
GROUP 2 Guinea Zimbabwe Namibia Kenya
GROUP 3 Angola Benin Uganda Niger
GROUP 4 Nigeria South Africa Equatorial Guinea Sierra Leone
GROUP 5 Ghana Libya Gabon Lesotho
GROUP 6 Senegal Algeria Liberia Gambia
GROUP 7 Ivory Coast Mozambique Botswana Madagascar
GROUP 8 Morocco Ethiopia Rwanda Mauritania
GROUP 9 Tunisia Burkina Faso Burundi Seychelles
GROUP 10 Mali Congo Sudan Chad
GROUP 11 Togo Zambia Eritrea Swaziland
GROUP 12 Egypt Democratic Republic of Congo Malawi Djibouti
The 12 group winners, plus the best 8 runners-up qualify for the final group stage. South Africa are taking part because the competition also acts as qualifying for the 2010 Nations Cup but they still qualify automatically for the World Cup.
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Post by Panda on Nov 25, 2007 17:53:56 GMT 1
Could have been worse... look at Scotland's group: Netherlands, Scotland, Norway, Macedonia, Iceland Could have been a *lot* better - look at Israel's group! Greece Israel Switzerland Moldova Latvia Luxembourg I think it's only one automatic qualifier, and I'm not sure who there is seeded, Greece or Switzerland. Not sure why you called it "Israel's group". were Israel the 2nd seed? I'm hoping Israel can qualify from that group, after Switzerland pipped them for the last world cup in a group that also contained France. Greece are good at European Championships now but not sure if they will be good for World Cups by then. The teams are listed in seeding order so Greece are the seeds in that group (it was them who pipped England to a top seeding), with Israel 2nd.
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Post by frag on Nov 25, 2007 18:00:05 GMT 1
I think it's only one automatic qualifier, and I'm not sure who there is seeded, Greece or Switzerland. Not sure why you called it "Israel's group". were Israel the 2nd seed? Yes, I was referring to the second seeds.
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Post by o on Nov 25, 2007 18:06:05 GMT 1
Very easetrn europe our group, croatia and andorra again, how dull! Could be tough to win, and even finish 2nd, knowing us!
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