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Post by Panda on Jan 31, 2008 16:10:41 GMT 1
Due to be named shortly...
We know Beckham isn't in but one interesting piece of news from the U21 squad is that Gabriel Agbonlahor isn't in, suggesting he will be in Capello's squad...
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Post by Panda on Jan 31, 2008 16:36:37 GMT 1
The U21 squad:
Joe Hart (Man City) Tom Heaton (Man U) Joe Lewis (Peterborough) Craig Gardner (A Villa) Michael Mancienne (QPR on loan from Chelsea) Joe Mattock (Leicester) Nedum Onuhoa (Man City) Ryan Shawcross (Stoke) Steven Taylor (Newcastle) David Wheater (Middlesbrough) Lee Cattermole (Middlesbrough) Tom Huddlestone (Tottenham) Adam Johnson (Middlesbrough) Aaron Lennon (Tottenham) James Milner (Newcastle) Fabrice Muamba (Birmingham) Mark Noble (West Ham) Jamie O'Hara (Tottenham) Andrew Surman (Southampton) Cameron Jerome (Birmingham) Luke Moore (A Villa) James Vaughan (Everton) Theo Walcott (Arsenal)
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Post by Panda on Jan 31, 2008 17:00:05 GMT 1
And here is Capello's squad:
David James (Portsmouth) Scott Carson (A Villa on loan from Liverpool) Chris Kirkland (Wigan) Wayne Bridge (Chelsea) Ashley Cole (Chelsea) Curtis Davies (A Villa on loan from West Brom) Rio Ferdinand (Man U) Glen Johnson (Portsmouth) Ledley King (Tottenham) Nickey Shorey (Reading) Wes Brown (Man U) Joleon Lescott (Everton) Micah Richards (Man City) Matthew Upson (West Ham) Jonathan Woodgate (Tottenham) Michael Carrick (Man U) Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) Gareth Barry (A Villa) Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham) Owen Hargreaves (Man U) Joe Cole (Chelsea) Ashley Young (A Villa) Stewart Downing (Middlesbrough) Shaun Wright-Phillips (Chelsea) David Bentley (Blackburn) Emile Heskey (Wigan) Gabriel Agbonlahor (A Villa) Michael Owen (Newcastle) Wayne Rooney (Man U) Peter Crouch (Liverpool)
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jan 31, 2008 17:03:25 GMT 1
thats some defence, can play 10 at the back
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Post by Panda on Jan 31, 2008 17:11:52 GMT 1
The squad will be trimmed to 23 after Saturday's games...
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Post by wonderwall on Jan 31, 2008 17:12:56 GMT 1
The squad will be trimmed to 23 after Saturday's games... yeah i would think so look at all them center backs so who are the notable admissions ?
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jan 31, 2008 17:13:49 GMT 1
seems rather defensive with 12 defenders and 3 defensive midfield players.
i am glad Agbonlahor, Bentley and Young have been called up. Upson has been solid and has played every game this season so yeah...but why the hell crouch, owen and heskey? crouch never plays, owens crocked and heskey has been average at best. take a risk on one of them, but all 3?
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Post by wonderwall on Jan 31, 2008 17:15:08 GMT 1
seems rather defensive with 12 defenders and 3 defensive midfield players. i am glad Agbonlahor, Bentley and Young have been called up. Upson has been solid and has played every game this season so yeah...but why the hell crouch, owen and heskey? crouch never plays, owens crocked and heskey has been average at best. take a risk on one of them, but all 3? I agree i wouldnt have picked all 3 of them i would have liked to seen Dave kitson in there.
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Post by Panda on Jan 31, 2008 17:21:30 GMT 1
No Paul Robinson or Defoe...
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Post by wonderwall on Jan 31, 2008 17:22:34 GMT 1
No Paul Robinson or Defoe... I feel sorry for defoe doesnt get a fair crack for club or country.
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Post by Panda on Jan 31, 2008 17:24:11 GMT 1
No Paul Robinson or Defoe... I feel sorry for defoe doesnt get a fair crack for club or country. He should do now. It looks like he's going to Portsmouth and Man City are going to sign Benjani.
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Post by Panda on Jan 31, 2008 17:25:59 GMT 1
No Phil Neville either...
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jan 31, 2008 17:26:45 GMT 1
seems rather defensive with 12 defenders and 3 defensive midfield players. i am glad Agbonlahor, Bentley and Young have been called up. Upson has been solid and has played every game this season so yeah...but why the hell crouch, owen and heskey? crouch never plays, owens crocked and heskey has been average at best. take a risk on one of them, but all 3? I agree i wouldnt have picked all 3 of them i would have liked to seen Dave kitson in there. yeah, i agree, top english goal scorer, no doubt he hasnt picked defoe or bent because they never play but owen automatically gets a call up even when he is 50% fit. carlton cole is useless but he is playing ten times better than heskey! wins everything in the air and was very high up on the assist charts last time i checked. 3rd best englishman behind ashley young and nicky shorey... and kirkland? ahead of robinson, hart and green?
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Post by Panda on Jan 31, 2008 17:29:37 GMT 1
and kirkland? ahead of robinson, hart and green? Green should be in. I can understand them holding Hart back for now as there's still a job to be done getting the U21s to the European Championships...
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Post by Maximo Mark on Jan 31, 2008 18:13:31 GMT 1
I'm more worried about David James. He'll be in his 40s by the time the World Cup comes around. Just what is the point of his inclusion ahead of Green, Robinson & Hart.
Glad Young and Agbonlahor are in, hope they can keep their place come saturday.
I would like to argue Daz's points about Heskey, Crouch and Owen but who else is there? Johnson isn't exactly in form and has never done anything at International level, Defoe & Bent play as much as Crouch. Dave Kitson and Marcus Bent are the top English scorers in the league, but would you actually want them in the sqaud?
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Post by wonderwall on Jan 31, 2008 18:22:46 GMT 1
Ben foster will probably be englands number 1 in the near future.
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Post by Robbie on Jan 31, 2008 18:36:38 GMT 1
I would have picked Beckham just to give him his 100th cap and then rested him after that. I know there should be no room for sentiment but he could have started from the bench and I think Beckham would have stepped down after that.
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Post by o on Jan 31, 2008 21:22:14 GMT 1
Robinson isn't playing at Spurs though is he, so Capello cant really pick him?
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Post by Tom on Jan 31, 2008 23:13:03 GMT 1
No Paul Robinson or Defoe... I feel sorry for defoe doesnt get a fair crack for club or country. Apparently there was a policy to only pick players who were starting games for their club, hence the reason why neither of them is in the squad. Must admit the big shock for me was seeing Lennon relegated to the U21s, especially in Beckham's absence. He's been playing well recently too! As for Kitson mates laughed at the chant from Reading fans of "kitson for England" at the Spurs-Reading game last month but its not that stupid. As others have said top english scorer etc, and he's more than just a scorer too. I've been impressed every time i've seen him this season by the way he links up the play, often dropping deep to receive the ball. He would have been very close to making the squad and if he continues his form then i think he'll have a chance in the future. But he hasn't actually scored for a month and also missed the game at Chelsea last night through illness, so probably wouldn't have been in the best physical condition?
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Post by Tom on Feb 1, 2008 12:02:06 GMT 1
I'm more worried about David James. He'll be in his 40s by the time the World Cup comes around. Just what is the point of his inclusion ahead of Green, Robinson & Hart. Because he's the most in form English goalkeeper perhaps? While I agree that Green should be in ahead of Kirkland, Robinson as i said above isn't getting first team football atm, and Hart imo isn't ready yet. While James may not be the #1 when the World Cup comes around whose to say he won't be in the squad. We're not exactly blessed with great keepers atm..
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