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Post by ManicKangaroo on Jun 28, 2007 20:49:21 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure it wasn't - and its not listed on the SAW discography
I know they did re-use tracks but not this one AFAIK
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Post by Smurfie on Jun 28, 2007 20:55:56 GMT 1
Sorry, got confused with If It Makes You Feel Good.
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Post by Jan on Jun 28, 2007 21:49:38 GMT 1
Donna Summer's album is great, This time i know it's for real ,esp. the 12" version is probably the best PWL/SAW song they ever released imo. Dinner with Gershwin was good too, she looked great in the video.
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Post by Smurfie on Jun 29, 2007 12:46:02 GMT 1
This Time I Know Its For Real is probably up there as one of my three favourite SAW/PWL songs as well. Though I would be hard pressed to chose between TTIKIFR and Respectable as my favourite.
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Post by Jan on Jun 29, 2007 14:51:12 GMT 1
I liked Respectable, but i've found that 'Showing out' and especially 'That's the way'aged better . Just got hold of Don't let me be misunderstood 1993 remix-Santa Esmeralda,very SAWsimilar to Dave Ford's productions.Does anybody know of any involvement?
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Jun 29, 2007 15:07:29 GMT 1
The 1990 mixes were
DON'T LET ME BE MISUNDERSTOOD
* Remixed by Mixmaster Pete Hammond for ARS Productions * Engineered by Dave Ford * Mixed at PWL Studio One, London
12": 90 BE ARS/CNR BELGIUM ARS 3754 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood + Esmerelda Suite (12" Castanet Mix PWL) * 8.00 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (Live Bootleg Mix) 6.03 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (12" PWL Dance Mix) * 6.32
CD5: 90 BE ARS/CNR BELGIUM ARS 6/3754 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood + Esmeralda Suite (Live Bootleg Mix) 6.03 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood + Esmeralda Suite (Radio Edit) * 3.52 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood + Esmeralda Suite (12" Dance Mix PWL) * 6.32 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (Reconstructed Dance Mix) 6.08
CD5: 93 CA UNIDISC SP5-1663 [NO CREDITS BUT "REMIX" IS VERY PWL 1993] Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood + Esmeralda Suite 16:15 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood + Esmeralda Suite (Remix) * 6:40 You're My Everything 5:46
12": 94 IT DISCO CLUB DCM Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (Live Bootleg Remix) 6.03 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (12" Dance Mix PWL) * 6.32 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (Reconstruced Dance Mix) * 6.08
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Post by Smurfie on Jun 29, 2007 15:17:40 GMT 1
Santa Esmeralda! Discotastic *downloads*
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Post by Jan on Jul 1, 2007 17:02:54 GMT 1
Thank you for the info, much appreciated!It's always great to find some hidden PWL treasures!
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Post by Smurfie on Jul 1, 2007 20:27:02 GMT 1
Going back to your Mel and Kim point Jannie, you're right I had a listen to Mel and Kim Best Of today, and Thats The Way It Is has aged better than Respectable. I still prefer Respectable by a country mile though.
Did Thats The Way It Is have a promo video? I don't ever recall seeing one? I know Mel was ill at the time so there wouldn't be a newly recorded one, but maybe there was a video made of old clips or puppets like FLM?
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Jul 1, 2007 21:00:50 GMT 1
according to wikipedia:
The video for the final single That's The Way it Is featured a group of dancers with no footage of the girls
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Post by Jan on Jul 1, 2007 21:28:41 GMT 1
You're right, i remember seeing the video, no sign of M,el &Kim though, very disappointing. Watched some Lonnie Gordon perfomances on YouTube tonight, great ones especially the "live" performances on Swedish tv.She has a great voice, it's sad that she didn't have more chart success (Top 30 hits) after Happenin' all over again.Both If i have to stand alone and Beyond your wildest dreams were good songs although few people seem to agree on the latter.
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Jul 1, 2007 21:31:42 GMT 1
I love Beyond Your Wildest Dreams
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Post by Smurfie on Jul 1, 2007 21:49:20 GMT 1
I loved all the SAW produced Lonnie singles, and Gonna Catch You was good as well, Love Eviction I did not like so much. I have to be honest and say outside of this, I don't think I have heard any of her other singles she released. It was disappointing that If I Have To Stand Alone didn't get the UK release, but I should imagine with the single reaching lower and lower positions it wouldn't have troubled the charts greatly. I had to wait until I went to Germany before I could get my copy. I just looked at Lonnie on Wiki, and I didn't know that Happenin' All Over Again was written for Donna Summer
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Post by Jan on Jul 2, 2007 7:29:02 GMT 1
And, according to various sources Pete Waterman wanted Hazell to record If i have to stand alone, but it got licenced off to Lonnie's record company before Hazell had a chance to record it.Hazell then had to settle with another Lonnie album track, Better off without you.That was probably one of the reasons she got fed up with the whole set up and left the PWL stable,according to Hazell she got tired of "hand me down" songs.I think 'Maybe we should call it a day' was the last single exclusively written for her.
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Post by Smurfie on Jul 2, 2007 10:53:27 GMT 1
Hazell got a lot of hand me downs, as their new artists tended to end up with unused album tracks and b-sides as well. The problem was that towards the end it was all about Kylie. Kylie got offered the track first, then if she didn't want it was tehir second flavour of the month, and so on down.
Wasn't Better Off Without You going to be released as a Lonnie single anyway?
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Post by Jan on Jul 2, 2007 13:26:21 GMT 1
Yes, and Lonnie's version got withdrawn, although i like her voice i prefer Hazell's version, Lonnie just couldn't get the chorus bit right, imo.So, i suppose Hazell got her revenge after all I love How could he do this to me (Lonnie), a BIG shame this never got released, the whole production, vocals and tune is awesome and still sounds great today!
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Post by Smurfie on Jul 2, 2007 13:35:59 GMT 1
Looking at the falling chart positions of Lonnie, I should imagine it wouldn't have hit the 75 anyway. Yes not sure what happened to How Could He Do This To Me. I even remember it getting airplay. It's a good song, but I don't think it was strong enough single material. I'm surprised it didn't end up on the album.
Do you have any of the Delage singles/remixes? I have Rock The Boat on CD single, but didn't hear anything after that. I tried looking for my Boy Krazy CD this morning as well, that seems to have disappeared too.
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Post by Jan on Jul 2, 2007 14:08:51 GMT 1
I got How could he do this to me on some Gay Disco compilation cd, i also wondered why they didn't include it on her album, i dont really like album's non-SAW tracks,so it would've fitted in nicely in stead of some repetitive album filler. I've got two Delage tracks, Running back for more and Ain't no cure 12"(the same track recorded by Bananarama, more hand me downs!!)
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Jul 2, 2007 14:09:00 GMT 1
I have Delage on 12" and I have the Boy Krazy CD (US version) and I think a couple of singles
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Post by Smurfie on Jul 2, 2007 15:26:37 GMT 1
I have a feeling my Boy Krazy is the US version as well, and Thats What Love Can Do (which I think is US as well). I also have the Toutes Les Filles cover of TWLCD, and its awful I have no idea what prompted me to buy it. I didn't even know Delage had recorded Ain't No Cure! As I am stuck in the flat this afternoon due to the rain, I'm nosing through Jeremy Kay's SAW discography to see what I'm missing.
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