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Post by Panda on Dec 16, 2008 10:53:21 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Dec 16, 2008 11:01:32 GMT 1
Yesterday's results: John Higgins 9-7 Joe Swail Peter Ebdon 9-8 Andrew Higginson Stephen Maguire 9-3 Jamie Burnett Neil Robertson 9-7 Michael Holt Shaun Murphy 9-7 Martin Gould Ding Junhui 9-6 Steve Davis Mark Allen 9-2 Stuart Bingham Ali Carter 9-2 Ian McCulloch (McCulloch withdrew due to illness after the first session with the score at 6-2)
2nd round, 1st session: Ronnie O'Sullivan 5-3 Joe Perry Marco Fu 5-3 Matthew Stevens Graeme Dott 5-3 Mark Williams Mark King 4-4 Stephen Lee
2nd round draw: Ronnie O'Sullivan v Joe Perry Marco Fu v Matthew Stevens Ali Carter v Peter Ebdon Graeme Dott v Mark Williams Shaun Murphy v Mark Allen Mark King v Stephen Lee John Higgins v Ding Junhui Neil Robertson v Stephen Maguire
The snooker authorities are investigating the match between Maguire and Burnett after betting was suspended before the match due to suspicious betting patterns surrounding the result. A number of big money bets were placed on Maguire to win 9-3. The players were informed that betting had been suspended before the match. In frame 12, with Maguire leading 8-3, Burnett missed what looked like a simple black to win the frame and make the score 8-4. Maguire potted the black to win 9-3.
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Post by rubcale on Dec 16, 2008 11:08:28 GMT 1
Beginning to look like the end for Stephen Hendry.
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Post by Panda on Dec 16, 2008 11:28:03 GMT 1
Beginning to look like the end for Stephen Hendry. It is a little bit. Hasn't won a tournament for 4 years. Provisionally #10 in the world but will probably be lower after this tournament...
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Post by Panda on Dec 16, 2008 15:33:05 GMT 1
A 147 for Ding!
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Post by Panda on Dec 16, 2008 22:03:11 GMT 1
Why should the commentators show respect to Ronnie when he's conceding frames with a dozen reds still on the table? Why should Joe Perry talk about Ronnie after that match? He won the match. He's still in the tournament (and has a great chance of winning it), not Ronnie. Yes, on another day Ronnie might have wiped the floor with Perry but today wasn't that day and all credit to Perry for taking full advantage. Everyone knows Ronnie is the best player in the world. That doesn't mean his opponents should bow down and kiss his arse in every match. They're there to win too, whether they're playing Ronnie, Maguire, Higgins or Declan Hughes.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Dec 16, 2008 22:56:25 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Dec 16, 2008 22:58:48 GMT 1
Whilst Ronnie does sometimes praise other players, I've heard him say some not-so-nice things about opponents on several occasions...
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Post by ligerdog7 on Dec 16, 2008 23:15:42 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Dec 16, 2008 23:24:59 GMT 1
Of course he deserves respect. He's one of the greatest of all time. But he doesn't do himself any favours at times.
Being the player he his, he's going to get attention whatever he does. Sadly, that means if his actions are negative, then so will the attention.
Despite that, I think he does get an easier ride than other players might if they were in his position due to his talent and the fact he's the biggest attraction (and being the biggest attraction means £££ for those involved in the running of the sport) on the circuit. He might get a small fine for what he did tonight but it's unlikely to be anything more than that as the authorities don't want to drive him away from the sport, which must be a worry for them given how often he's talked about retirement.
In case you're interested, Joe Perry is playing Marco Fu in the quarter-finals tomorrow. Stephen Maguire, who is 2nd in the rankings behind Ronnie, is currently 7-6 down against Neil Robertson so if he loses, the gap at the top of the rankings won't have closed.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Dec 16, 2008 23:43:23 GMT 1
Of course he deserves respect. He's one of the greatest of all time. But he doesn't do himself any favours at times. Being the player he his, he's going to get attention whatever he does. Sadly, that means if his actions are negative, then so will the attention. Despite that, I think he does get an easier ride than other players might if they were in his position due to his talent and the fact he's the biggest attraction (and being the biggest attraction means £££ for those involved in the running of the sport) on the circuit. He might get a small fine for what he did tonight but it's unlikely to be anything more than that as the authorities don't want to drive him away from the sport, which must be a worry for them given how often he's talked about retirement. In case you're interested, Joe Perry is playing Marco Fu in the quarter-finals tomorrow. Stephen Maguire, who is 2nd in the rankings behind Ronnie, is currently 7-6 down against Neil Robertson so if he loses, the gap at the top of the rankings won't have closed. cheers yar be watching it might be right still think think i not get bit Ronnie, is currently 7-6 down against Neil Robertson so if he loses, the gap at the top of the rankings won't have closed. and next snooker sky sports 27th december right maby sonner soz dude not get Ronnie, is currently 7-6 down against Neil Robertson so if he loses, the gap at the top of the rankings won't have closed. mooo yoooo# noooooooooooooooooooooo diiggtyy uppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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Post by Panda on Dec 16, 2008 23:53:41 GMT 1
Stephen Maguire is 7-6 down against Neil Robertson. Maguire is #2 in the world rankings.
I don't have Sky Sports so I'm not sure when or what their next snooker is. The next tournament on BBC after this one is the Masters, next month.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Dec 17, 2008 0:21:17 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Dec 17, 2008 14:01:58 GMT 1
Yesterday's 2nd round results: Ronnie O'Sullivan 5-9 Joe Perry Marco Fu 9-5 Matthew Stevens Ali Carter 9-5 Peter Ebdon Graeme Dott 7-9 Mark Williams Shaun Murphy 9-7 Mark Allen Mark King 5-9 Stephen Lee John Higgins 9-4 Ding Junhui Neil Robertson 8-9 Stephen Maguire
Quarter-finals: Joe Perry v Marco Fu Ali Carter v Mark Williams Shaun Murphy v Stephen Lee John Higgins v Stephen Maguire
Maguire managed to beat Robertson last night so he will close the gap on Ronnie a bit. Ronnie will receive 2850 points for reaching the 2nd round, taking him onto 45375. Maguire will get at least 3750 for reaching the quarter-finals, taking him onto 38800. He'll receive 4800 if he reaches the semis, 6000 if he reaches the final and 7500 if he wins the tournament. So as things stand, Ronnie's lead will still be around 6500 points but that could come down to around 2500 if Maguire wins the tournament. There are 3 ranking tournaments left after the UK Championship, the last being the World Championship where the winner receives 10000 points.
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Post by Elmer on Dec 17, 2008 14:05:10 GMT 1
I'll eat my own hat and everything else if Maguire is #1 at the end of the season.
It might be just me but whenever I've watched him he looks very average.
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Post by Panda on Dec 17, 2008 14:10:04 GMT 1
I'll eat my own hat and everything else if Maguire is #1 at the end of the season. It might be just me but whenever I've watched him he looks very average. I don't think he'll be #1 either but he's far from average. He lacks consistency but when he's on form he's a match for anyone. He's a proven winner, having won 3 ranking titles, including this one as an unseeded player in 2004. He struggled for a few years after that but he's back to being a major player in the game. A bit like Ronnie, he's his own worst enemy at times and tends to let his temper get the better of him. This is probably the biggest reason why he hasn't won more tournaments.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Dec 17, 2008 22:52:13 GMT 1
Yesterday's 2nd round results: Ronnie O'Sullivan 5-9 Joe Perry Marco Fu 9-5 Matthew Stevens Ali Carter 9-5 Peter Ebdon Graeme Dott 7-9 Mark Williams Shaun Murphy 9-7 Mark Allen Mark King 5-9 Stephen Lee John Higgins 9-4 Ding Junhui Neil Robertson 8-9 Stephen Maguire Quarter-finals: Joe Perry v Marco Fu Ali Carter v Mark Williams Shaun Murphy v Stephen Lee John Higgins v Stephen Maguire Maguire managed to beat Robertson last night so he will close the gap on Ronnie a bit. Ronnie will receive 2850 points for reaching the 2nd round, taking him onto 45375. Maguire will get at least 3750 for reaching the quarter-finals, taking him onto 38800. He'll receive 4800 if he reaches the semis, 6000 if he reaches the final and 7500 if he wins the tournament. So as things stand, Ronnie's lead will still be around 6500 points but that could come down to around 2500 if Maguire wins the tournament. There are 3 ranking tournaments left after the UK Championship, the last being the World Championship where the winner receives 10000 points. i see dude kool dam hope maguire not win see dude i waz right bout perry going out luck beeating ronnye just lost fu 9-8 think i hes loess makes up hes luck v ronnye my view all good mooo yoooooooooooooo nooo diiggtyy uipppppppppppppppp
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Post by Panda on Dec 18, 2008 10:02:01 GMT 1
Perry's comments after his match against Fu were interesting. He talked about how much of a buzz it had been playing Ronnie the previous day and how he just felt "flat" against Fu and struggled to re-produce his best form...
Yesterday's results: Joe Perry 7-9 Marco Fu Ali Carter 9-8 Mark Williams
Fu plays Carter in the semis. Carter has the chance to reach both of the major ranking finals in the same year.
The other 2 quarters are today. I'll probably end up being totally wrong but I think whoever wins the match between Higgins and Maguire will go on to win the tournament.
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Post by Paddy on Dec 18, 2008 12:02:09 GMT 1
Wheres Fu come from? He was struggling last season, and the season before, actually hes not played well for a few seasons.
Ali Carter is from Norwich I think? Is he the one with the yellow and green waistcoat?
I'd rather see Maguire take the number 1 spot then Ronnie.
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Post by Panda on Dec 18, 2008 12:26:58 GMT 1
Wheres Fu come from? He was struggling last season, and the season before, actually hes not played well for a few seasons. Fu had been struggling but he actually had quite a good year, last season, winning the Grand Prix. He also reached the quarter-finals of this tournament and those results put him back into the top 16. Ali Carter is from Norwich I think? Is he the one with the yellow and green waistcoat? You're thinking of Barry Pinches...
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