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Post by Panda on Aug 31, 2008 20:32:59 GMT 1
Fabio Capello has announced his squad for England's first two World Cup qualifying matches against Andorra and Croatia:
Paul Robinson (Blackburn) David James (Portsmouth) Robert Green (West Ham) Joleon Lescott (Everton) Wayne Bridge (Chelsea) Ashley Cole (Chelsea) John Terry (Chelsea) Wes Brown (Man Utd) Rio Ferdinand (Man Utd) Glen Johnson (Portsmouth) Matthew Upson (West Ham) Gareth Barry (Aston Villa) Joe Cole (Chelsea) Frank Lampard (Chelsea) Jimmy Bullard (Fulham) David Beckham (LA Galaxy) Stewart Downing (Middlesbrough) David Bentley (Tottenham) Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham) Theo Walcott (Arsenal) Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) Jermain Defoe (Portsmouth) Emile Heskey (Wigan)
When was the last time an England squad didn't contain a single Liverpool player?
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 31, 2008 20:35:19 GMT 1
No Owen or Young? Pleased for Bullard though, it'd be nice to see him get a chance.
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Post by Panda on Aug 31, 2008 20:39:56 GMT 1
I'm surprised about Owen but really happy for Bullard. He's a great player.
I don't suppose there's much need for Young when you have Joe Cole and Downing (who is obviously Capello's second choice, and has played well in his recent appearances for England).
Nice to see Rob Green finally get a call-up as well.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 31, 2008 20:43:52 GMT 1
I guess you're right about Young. I do think he's a great player however 1) Joe Cole has probably been our most consistant player over recent years and 2) He's also right footed, a left-footed Downing is probably a better option.
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Post by suedehead on Aug 31, 2008 21:46:59 GMT 1
I guess you're right about Young. I do think he's a great player however 1) Joe Cole has probably been our most consistant player over recent years and 2) He's also right footed, a left-footed Downing is probably a better option. I'd say Owen Hargreaves has been more consistent. Unfortuanately, he's also consistently injured
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Post by o on Sept 6, 2008 20:00:44 GMT 1
Absolutely woeful! They should run out to Madness - Embarrassment! I know Andorra have 10 men behind the ball, but they cant even manage the basics like PASSING, what is Downing even doing on the pitch, if he plays like this against Andorra, what on earth is he like when ge actually comes up against a proper football team. Let's launch balls into the box for Defoe and Walcott to head, that'll work, because their combined height must be about, err, 6 foot! Total joke, we get all the usual, please dont boo us, we'll do our best, pathetic, Croatia will rip us apart next week if we play liek this, but maybe that is what we need to realise we have a nation of overpaid prima donnas who are just not up to it. Anyne know how much the players get paid to represent us in this game? they should hand that money to the fans who have paid to watch this garbage!
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Post by o on Sept 6, 2008 21:04:22 GMT 1
He brings Joe Cole on (who should have started) and things change, 2-0 up inside 15 minutes of the 2nd half, then the rest of the game, we revert back to the 1st half, so pleasing to see our superior training and fitness dominate the Andoraans. Kazakhstan beat Adorra 3-0, enough said.
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Post by Panda on Sept 6, 2008 21:53:53 GMT 1
Did San Marino replace Andorra at half-time? That would explain a lot...
Haven't seen the game and won't get to see any of it thanks to Setanta's greed.
I'll be interested to know what Capello's instructions to Downing were. If he told him to boom crosses in, you have to question the wisdom of having Rooney and Defoe as a strike partnership. If he wasn't told to do that then Ashley Young will probably be in the next squad...
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Post by suedehead on Sept 6, 2008 22:06:49 GMT 1
Haven't seen the game and won't get to see any of it thanks to Setanta's greed. Only one terrestial channel put in a bid for the highlights. I don't know how much they offered. Do you?
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Post by Panda on Sept 6, 2008 22:09:12 GMT 1
Haven't seen the game and won't get to see any of it thanks to Setanta's greed. Only one terrestial channel put in a bid for the highlights. I don't know how much they offered. Do you? I know Setanta were asking for significantly more than Sky used to when they were showing the games.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 6, 2008 22:21:19 GMT 1
Only one terrestial channel put in a bid for the highlights. I don't know how much they offered. Do you? I know Setanta were asking for significantly more than Sky used to when they were showing the games. But then Setanta paid more in the first place. Mind you, tonight's highlights weren't worth much.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Sept 6, 2008 22:45:59 GMT 1
I listened to about 2/3 on 5Live, it seemed frustrating but atleast we won. I don't know if Joe Cole should've started, from what they were saying about Capello he clearly wants wingers who'll stay on the wing as they kept saying he was moaning at Cole every 5 minutes for keep coming inside. If that's the case then Downing probably should play given he's the only left footer of the three contenders and the one who'll stay on the touchlines most.
It seemed like it was a typical Andorran performance too, lots of cheating and gamesmanship with a 9-1 formation.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 6, 2008 23:09:34 GMT 1
Arguably Joe Cole should have started. But then it's really all about Wednesday's game in Croatia. There's no point in risking injury to key players in a game which should yield an easy three points.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Sept 7, 2008 13:22:38 GMT 1
Downing is not good enough at this level, thats not saying he is not a good player. i can't see why the manager would play two small strikers that are poor in the air and then instruct a winger to throw in aimless crosses. surely a crouch, ashton, heskey or owen should have been upfront if that was the tactic.
do you know who has scored the most headed goals in premier league history? shearer? sheringham? dublin? nope
owen, shows you dont have to be huge to score with ur head
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Post by Tom on Sept 7, 2008 16:16:30 GMT 1
I listened to about 2/3 on 5Live, it seemed frustrating but atleast we won. I don't know if Joe Cole should've started, from what they were saying about Capello he clearly wants wingers who'll stay on the wing as they kept saying he was moaning at Cole every 5 minutes for keep coming inside. If that's the case then Downing probably should play given he's the only left footer of the three contenders and the one who'll stay on the touchlines most. It seemed like it was a typical Andorran performance too, lots of cheating and gamesmanship with a 9-1 formation. Agree with that. Only listened to the 2nd half because the Murray-Nadal match was more important imo, but lost interest in the last third of the game it was so dull.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Sept 8, 2008 1:25:56 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Sept 8, 2008 1:49:45 GMT 1
Liverpool decided now would be a good time for Gerrard to have surgery on a groin injury, which meant he missed the England games.
England's first home qualifier is next month, against Kazakhstan.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Sept 8, 2008 2:03:19 GMT 1
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Post by o on Sept 10, 2008 9:16:30 GMT 1
So what do we think we'll do against Croatia tonight?
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Sept 10, 2008 11:47:43 GMT 1
So what do we think we'll do against Croatia tonight? apart from not win? I predict we will drop "did he just do that" downing and replace him with joe cole. only for calamity james to throw the game with a howler, he is due one. bullard won't get a game because he plays for fulham and our only player with pace wallcott will get dropped. lets just say im not confident but maybe a 2-2 draw
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