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Post by ligerdog7 on Sept 10, 2008 22:22:27 GMT 1
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Post by ligerdog7 on Sept 10, 2008 22:28:29 GMT 1
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Sept 11, 2008 2:22:19 GMT 1
lampard was sh*t, i would like to see how many passes he misplaced in the first half, it seemed like he was spraying hollywood balls out of play every 5 minutes.
great performance though. a special mention for jenas, he seemed to do everything right, kept it simple and was solid when he came on
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Post by ligerdog7 on Sept 11, 2008 2:46:00 GMT 1
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Post by frag on Sept 11, 2008 10:58:16 GMT 1
Great performance last night, very glad I went to the pub to watch it. First time we've had such a good attacking display in a competitive game since the Croatia game in Euro 2004, and probably our best performance overall since the 5-1 win in Munich in 2001.
Still need to do the job against Borat's Boys next month...
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Post by Tom on Sept 11, 2008 11:38:00 GMT 1
Now that is what you call a result! Still a long way to go, we may have peaked too early, but that will restore belief! I thought the ref had a shocker, Simunic should have been red carded for 2 cynical fouls, and the guy that was red carded for the elbow should only have been a yellow, I dont think there was intent there. And then for the Croatian goal, their player almost took Terry's head off his foot was so high and no foul. I also didn't realise that only ONE goes through automatically from this group! 2nd place are only into the play offs! Crap, we have Belarus and Ukraine to get past yet, a long way to go! I listened to the 2nd half on 5 Live and they thought the red card was harsh. But having seen it this morning in slow motion it looked the right decision to me, completely took him out, intentional or not, and forced him to go off, elbows often lead to red cards. They also said that the decision to rule out Lampard's goal for a foul by Heskey was dubious, though i can't comment on that as i haven't seen it. On the Setanta issue, their pre-match coverage wasn't encrypted and their highlights at 11.30pm were available to anyone with digital. If only i'd known...I do think they're being greedy but apparently one offer from a station (presumably ITV) was less than what they paid to show a Champions League qualifier, which doesn't sound quite right to me. It mentioned in the Mail today though that ITV had an 11th hour bid of 500k turned down.
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Post by Tom on Sept 11, 2008 11:41:23 GMT 1
Excellent! Really pleased for Walcott, I hope he can cement his place now, if only to stop Bentley from getting in, don't rate him that much at all. Really glad we did it with Heskey in too, he's a fantastic player. So unselfish and creates so many opportunities and space for others. They were saying on 5Live that Barry and Lampard played really well, hopefully it'll be difficult for Gerrard to get back in! Agree with what you say about Heskey. It was mentioned in the paper this morning that he played in the 5-1 win in Munich in 2001, the 3-0 win over Russia at Wembley last year, and now the 4-1 win in Zagreb last night. Its easy to forget how important he is.
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Post by o on Sept 11, 2008 12:39:15 GMT 1
Rooney was key as well, set up 2 of the goals with pinpoint passes, brilliant play. I want to know why Beckham's on the pitch, I'd rather Bentley came on.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Sept 11, 2008 12:50:35 GMT 1
Rooney was key as well, set up 2 of the goals with pinpoint passes, brilliant play. I want to know why Beckham's on the pitch, I'd rather Bentley came on. Bentley has done nothing for England in the odd game he has been tried out in and and so far this season isn't on form from what i have seen. So he went with someone he knew he could trust to see the game out i guess. Bentleys game is about penetration and putting in crosses, giving the ball away as a result, it wasnt the right tactics at 3-1 up or whatever the score was when beckham came on. jimmy bullard wasn't stripped and jenas was already on so he brought beckham on
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Post by Robin on Sept 11, 2008 13:11:24 GMT 1
I'd still rather see Gerrard in the starting line-up than Lampard.
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Post by Tom on Sept 11, 2008 13:18:45 GMT 1
Rooney was key as well, set up 2 of the goals with pinpoint passes, brilliant play. I want to know why Beckham's on the pitch, I'd rather Bentley came on. Bentley has done nothing for England in the odd game he has been tried out in and and so far this season isn't on form from what i have seen. So he went with someone he knew he could trust to see the game out i guess. Bentleys game is about penetration and putting in crosses, giving the ball away as a result, it wasnt the right tactics at 3-1 up or whatever the score was when beckham came on. jimmy bullard wasn't stripped and jenas was already on so he brought beckham on Bullard wasn't stripped because he wasn't even on the bench, neither was Bentley either. Interesting that Upson was preferred to Lescott on the bench too considering that Lescott can also cover left-back. Which begs the question why didn't Upson start in place of Lescott on Saturday?
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Sept 11, 2008 13:24:29 GMT 1
I'd still rather see Gerrard in the starting line-up than Lampard. yeah, everytime. a good team performance and a few individual moments in the second half gloss over the fact that for 85 minutes lampard was terrible. the main reason england struggle to break down teams is lampard keeps spraying hollywood balls out of play or tries a difficult pass and looses the ball when playing it simple and keeping the ball would work better. but the fact lampard takes the set pieces and gets forwrd makes it impossible to drop him when gerrard is injured. i think jenas did well and even though i hate spurs and think jenas is a bit of a knob after the way he left newcastle i think he should get a start in central midfield. he suits the team game better
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Sept 11, 2008 13:29:18 GMT 1
Bentley has done nothing for England in the odd game he has been tried out in and and so far this season isn't on form from what i have seen. So he went with someone he knew he could trust to see the game out i guess. Bentleys game is about penetration and putting in crosses, giving the ball away as a result, it wasnt the right tactics at 3-1 up or whatever the score was when beckham came on. jimmy bullard wasn't stripped and jenas was already on so he brought beckham on Bullard wasn't stripped because he wasn't even on the bench, neither was Bentley either. Interesting that Upson was preferred to Lescott on the bench too considering that Lescott can also cover left-back. Which begs the question why didn't Upson start in place of Lescott on Saturday? my only guess would be Lescott failed to impress when he played, he certainly looked a bit shakey against a poor andora. I think i noticed bridge on the bench so he opted for the strongest centreback at his disposal, upson is undoubtedly better at defending against a strong physical team.
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Post by o on Sept 11, 2008 17:48:57 GMT 1
Beckham's (lack of) pace and fitness nearly saw the Croatians get the ball twice. I find it bizarre that people are not stripped off, because they wont play, so if 2 players in one position got injured, someone would have to play out of position, because another squad member was in his suit? If Bentley is not up to scratch why is he in the squad, bring someone in who is on form, put them on the bench and give them some minutes in the game.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Sept 11, 2008 21:14:28 GMT 1
i think seantanna ever calld ave canncled my sercripchion chhecky tw*ts if ave day get 0p me day sayd had end mounth pay i contenuu ave channle told i pay em twatters nooo diigtyyy moooooooooooooooo upppppppppppppppppppp
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Post by paulgilb on Sept 11, 2008 22:28:06 GMT 1
ITV are *apparently* showing highlights of England v Croatia at 22:35 if anybody's interested (and reads this in time!).
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Post by Earl Purple on Sept 11, 2008 23:29:34 GMT 1
I have Setanta anyway so I saw it.
Lampard played well enough. Shows what he can do when Gerrard is not in the team with him. The team that was out there played well together as a team, which is more important than individual players.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Sept 11, 2008 23:52:32 GMT 1
Beckham's (lack of) pace and fitness nearly saw the Croatians get the ball twice. I find it bizarre that people are not stripped off, because they wont play, so if 2 players in one position got injured, someone would have to play out of position, because another squad member was in his suit? If Bentley is not up to scratch why is he in the squad, bring someone in who is on form, put them on the bench and give them some minutes in the game. is there a limit of how many people you can have on the subs bench? i find it odd bullard and bentley were not stripped, he left himself no option but bring beckham on, we all know he is past it but i guess it dosen't really matter against 10 men with a big lead, jenas came on at left midfield so i guess downing was not stripped either
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Post by ligerdog7 on Sept 12, 2008 1:21:47 GMT 1
I have Setanta anyway so I saw it. Lampard played well enough. Shows what he can do when Gerrard is not in the team with him. The team that was out there played well together as a team, which is more important than individual players. on sky ore cabble tv i carnt deside if i gve Setanta nuver chance not contact twatters agne next england games on itv1 nooo diigtyyy upp yooooooooooooooooooo
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Post by Maximo Mark on Sept 12, 2008 10:42:11 GMT 1
Beckham's (lack of) pace and fitness nearly saw the Croatians get the ball twice. I find it bizarre that people are not stripped off, because they wont play, so if 2 players in one position got injured, someone would have to play out of position, because another squad member was in his suit? If Bentley is not up to scratch why is he in the squad, bring someone in who is on form, put them on the bench and give them some minutes in the game. is there a limit of how many people you can have on the subs bench? i find it odd bullard and bentley were not stripped, he left himself no option but bring beckham on, we all know he is past it but i guess it dosen't really matter against 10 men with a big lead, jenas came on at left midfield so i guess downing was not stripped either Like in the Premiership and Europe you can have 7 subs. The bench the other night was Robinson, Johnson, Upson, Beckham, Jenas, Downing and Defoe. I'd pick Beckham for the bench because he's more likely to change a game, I guess Capello wasn't impressed with Downing so brought Jenas on instead, although it then seems odd as to why he'd pick him anyway...
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