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Post by Panda on Oct 10, 2008 14:55:35 GMT 1
Saturday: England v Kazakhstan (ITV)
Wednesday: Belarus v England (Setanta)
Will England continue their winning start to the World Cup qualifying campaign?
Rumours suggest Fabio Capello is going for a 4-3-3 formation against Kazakhstan tomorrow. It's also thought both Gerrard and Lampard will start. With Joe Cole injured and John Terry out of tomorrow's game, the possible line-up could look like this:
-------------------- James -------------------------- Brown ----- Ferdinand ---- Lescott ----- A Cole -----Gerrard --------- Lampard ------- Barry ----- Walcott ------- Rooney ------ Heskey
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Post by o on Oct 10, 2008 15:12:48 GMT 1
I think we have to get an early goal. What time does it kick off tomorrow, is it 4.30pm?
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Post by Panda on Oct 10, 2008 15:17:44 GMT 1
I think we have to get an early goal. What time does it kick off tomorrow, is it 4.30pm? Coverage starts at 4:30, kick-off at 5:15.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Oct 10, 2008 15:22:39 GMT 1
no idea about kick off, i did hear it was rather early though
i think the lineup will be
-------------------- James -------------------------- Brown ----- Ferdinand ---- Upson ----- A Cole -----Gerrard --------- Lampard ------- Barry ----- Walcott ------- Heskey ------ Rooney
With Heskey being the main striker and Rooney playing off him in a similar role he plays for Man U away in europe. I went for Upson to get the nod ahead of Lescott simply because in the last game he brought Upson on late in the game instead of Lescott. I think he prefers Upson at centre back because Lescott is weaker in the air and is more prone to mistakes
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Post by Panda on Oct 10, 2008 15:27:58 GMT 1
It should be a straightforward win for England, though Kazakhstan have been improving since they switched to UEFA.
They won 2 games in the Euro 2008 qualifiers, against Serbia and Armenia and drew with Belgium and Azerbaijan twice. Turkey are the only team to put more than 3 past them in a qualifier since they moved to UEFA, and they've been in qualifying groups that have included Portugal, Greece, Poland and Denmark.
So far in these World Cup qualifiers, they've beaten Andorra 3-0 at home, lost 3-0 in Croatia and lost 3-1 at home to Ukraine.
World rankings:
ENGLAND FIFA: 14 Elo: 7 Roon Ba: 6 MrH: 20
KAZAKHSTAN FIFA: 131 Elo: 122 Roon Ba: 111 MrH: 109
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Post by ligerdog7 on Oct 11, 2008 1:36:12 GMT 1
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Post by Tom on Oct 11, 2008 12:40:19 GMT 1
no idea about kick off, i did hear it was rather early though i think the lineup will be -------------------- James -------------------------- Brown ----- Ferdinand ---- Upson ----- A Cole -----Gerrard --------- Lampard ------- Barry ----- Walcott ------- Heskey ------ Rooney With Heskey being the main striker and Rooney playing off him in a similar role he plays for Man U away in europe. I went for Upson to get the nod ahead of Lescott simply because in the last game he brought Upson on late in the game instead of Lescott. I think he prefers Upson at centre back because Lescott is weaker in the air and is more prone to mistakes Completely agree with that, prefer Upson as a centre-back to Lescott anyway so i hope he partners Rio. The Kazakhstan coach has talked about playing an expansive game. If thats the case then it will play into our hands and they could get thrashed. Coupled with their inexperienced side (they've dropped something like 17 players i think) it wouldn't surprise me if it was 4 or 5, but i'll settle for 2-0 and a decent performance. Off to the pub to watch this and possibly the Belarus game as well, i've come not to expect much when watching England in the pub, can't remember too many victories i've seen, tho last time we did beat Israel 3-0..
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Post by Tom on Oct 11, 2008 12:43:29 GMT 1
ITV are showing the home games live, Setanta are showing the away games. The only thing that has changed is that ITV have won the rights to show highlights of the away games. Noticed with interest that Setanta have got highlights of the Kazakhstan game tonight, but they're on at about midnight so i doubt many people will watch them, of course aside from the fact that not many people actually have Setanta!
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Post by frag on Oct 11, 2008 16:39:31 GMT 1
no idea about kick off, i did hear it was rather early though i think the lineup will be -------------------- James -------------------------- Brown ----- Ferdinand ---- Upson ----- A Cole -----Gerrard --------- Lampard ------- Barry ----- Walcott ------- Heskey ------ Rooney That's exactly the starting line-up. No word from Soccer Saturday on Kazakhstan's team yet
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Post by Panda on Oct 11, 2008 16:48:01 GMT 1
England's subs: Carson, Johnson, Bridge, Beckham, Wright-Phillips, Defoe, Crouch
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Post by ligerdog7 on Oct 11, 2008 19:02:24 GMT 1
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Post by frag on Oct 11, 2008 19:12:37 GMT 1
Kazakhstan caved in somewhat, but a good second-half performance and a very good, if flattering, result. Ukraine-Croatia still 0-0 at half time. Then again, so were we
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Post by Panda on Oct 11, 2008 19:15:09 GMT 1
Big news of the day from the results update coming later (or maybe tomorrow):
The Faroe Islands have a point!
Senegal are OUT!
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Post by o on Oct 11, 2008 19:17:00 GMT 1
I thought the scoreline flattered us to be honest, for a period in that 2nd half we were the weaker team, kazakhstan were running at us and cutting us open, their goal was very deserved. For such a young side they showed a lot of promise, a bit better defending at set pieces and they'll be a good side. I hope they thrash Andorra, have they beaten them already? They played good honest footy, and when they went 1-0 down, they tried to get back into the game. Job done, onto Belarus now and slightly sterner test.
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Post by Panda on Oct 11, 2008 20:06:42 GMT 1
Romania leading France 2-0!
Luxembourg currently 1-1 with Israel...
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Post by Panda on Oct 11, 2008 20:28:53 GMT 1
Ukraine and Croatia draw 0-0. Just 4 points for Croatia from their first 3 games...
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Post by o on Oct 12, 2008 10:10:56 GMT 1
Good news, I still say Ukraine will be tough for us!
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Post by Maximo Mark on Oct 12, 2008 15:04:57 GMT 1
I'm really glad that game was a draw. Ukraine are good and are underrated I feel, they were always going to be up there yet if you listen the media you'd think there were only two teams in the group with a chance of qualifying.
5-1 was flattering, but we took chances. We will need to improve though having said that no other team scored more than 3 yesterday so we must be doing something right. I don't think anything has been worked out with Lampard/Gerrard, neither were particularly inspring but Gerrard was abysmal in the first half, about the worst I've seen him play. The switch at half time showed we do need to play 442 and none of this 433/451 rubbish. Lampard and Gerrard should be alright against teams like Kazakstan, though against the better countries I'd bring in Barry or Hargreaves to hold.
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Post by Tom on Oct 12, 2008 15:44:31 GMT 1
The 2nd half went to plan (even if it was a bit too open thanks to the Lampard/Gerrard partnership not working again), but only after an incredibly dull 1st half that made me question why i was even watching the game. Said to my mate in the 2nd half that 4-3-3 simply doesn't work for England, we're a 4-4-2 side and it brings the best out of us. Happy with the eventual 5-1 win, though its a shame we gifted them a goal...
Belarus away could be tricky, though obviously we should win.
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Post by Mart!n on Oct 12, 2008 15:47:55 GMT 1
first half was boring as watching paint dry, the second half walked it, we should win the next game quite easily I think, just have to wait and see.
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