Paul
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Post by Paul on Dec 17, 2007 13:19:00 GMT 1
It is *in unison* AMAZING!!!! I hate the song, but they gave such a great performance of it. And it was more in tune than I originally thought Anyone starting to think that James is actually Louis Walsh in disguise?!
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Dec 17, 2007 13:19:43 GMT 1
How dare you
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penny
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Post by penny on Dec 17, 2007 13:34:16 GMT 1
Why are you being constantly rude to me...............I thought this was a forum where we could express our opinions ? I`m out of here Sure you can express your opinion. But when your opinion is "waaaa waaa waaa I'm gonna stamp my feet and scream because I didn't get my way waaaa waaa waaaa why dont you all like me waaaa waaaa waaa " then we're entitled to express our opinions as well, and treat you like the silly little girl you are. Now, if you would like to discuss the merits and failings of each act - including Rhydian because he most definitely had some - then we might feel more inclined to treat you with a bit more respect. What an unpleasant person you are ....................why are you constantly trying to bully me ? What is your problem. I give an opinion and because you don`t agree you try to bully. How many other Haven regulars have you driven away ? Hope you are proud of yourself
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Dec 17, 2007 13:37:51 GMT 1
We're not trying to drive you away Penny
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Post by zigzag on Dec 17, 2007 13:39:06 GMT 1
Good lord! this is better than X-Factor *Gets Popcorn*
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Post by rubcale on Dec 17, 2007 13:55:12 GMT 1
The papers today are full of allegations about vote-rigging...............
I can't remember this happening any other year, did it?
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Post by LittleChristmasTurkey on Dec 17, 2007 13:57:46 GMT 1
The papers today are full of allegations about vote-rigging............... I can't remember this happening any other year, did it? Yes, every year ever. It always happens. The people who's favourite didn't win always find something that was 'so unfair' about the proceedings that meant it was quite definitely biased against them.
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Paul
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Post by Paul on Dec 17, 2007 13:59:34 GMT 1
The papers today are full of allegations about vote-rigging............... I can't remember this happening any other year, did it? By vote rigging are we talking about the lines for Rhydian were blocked and people couldn't get through? Because we hear about that almost every competition like this
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Post by LittleChristmasTurkey on Dec 17, 2007 14:05:49 GMT 1
What an unpleasant person you are ....................why are you constantly trying to bully me ? What is your problem. I give an opinion and because you don`t agree you try to bully. How many other Haven regulars have you driven away ? Hope you are proud of yourself I'm not bullying you, I'm explaining to you why several people are telling you to change the record. You go on and on and on constantly, bringing up the same points over and over, refusing to listen to anybody elses point of view. If you look back at your own posts love, I think you'll find that you've been very rude to several people who don't agree with you. As I've already said, if you would like to have a rational conversation, criticising and praising each of the competitors where it is due - and all of the final 3 deserve both praise and criticism - then I'll quite happily treat you like an adult and have that discussion with you. Failure to do so makes you look like a fool.
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Post by o on Dec 17, 2007 14:06:49 GMT 1
YES!!!!! I'm so happy. I don't care what y'all are saying - he did the better version of the song and he got the most votes. I love him and he actual displays emotion - as opposed to the walking Madame Tussauds dummy that is Rhydian. It'll be so sad if people try to denegrate his achievement by saying it was just the Scottish vote. I don't think it was a Scottish vote thing at all. In fact that is one of the things that I have found really irritating throughout and particularly tonight. We are not automatons voting by nationality - we are all British and capable of deciding on the talent that is supposed to be the reason for the show. The Scottish/Welsh/English theme tonight was appalling. I preferred Rhydian to Leon across this series - but Rhydian was not at his best tonight. The duet was awful - whereas Leon/Kylie I did enjoy. Rhydian definitely sang the winners song better IMO. But I can't see how anyone could make that song listenable. I totally agree about the scottish/welsh thing, it really annoyed me! It's like they have to have a gimmick to make people vote!
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Post by LittleChristmasTurkey on Dec 17, 2007 14:08:27 GMT 1
I don't think it was a Scottish vote thing at all. In fact that is one of the things that I have found really irritating throughout and particularly tonight. We are not automatons voting by nationality - we are all British and capable of deciding on the talent that is supposed to be the reason for the show. The Scottish/Welsh/English theme tonight was appalling. I preferred Rhydian to Leon across this series - but Rhydian was not at his best tonight. The duet was awful - whereas Leon/Kylie I did enjoy. Rhydian definitely sang the winners song better IMO. But I can't see how anyone could make that song listenable. I totally agree about the scottish/welsh thing, it really annoyed me! It's like they have to have a gimmick to make people vote! They did need a gimmick, given the quality of the final 3! Or the whole of the final 12, for that matter.
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Post by o on Dec 17, 2007 14:12:44 GMT 1
So when are Rydian and Same Difference allowed to release something? How long a gap is left for the Winner to enjoy their moment and sales?
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Post by LittleChristmasTurkey on Dec 17, 2007 14:16:18 GMT 1
So when are Rydian and Same Difference allowed to release something? How long a gap is left for the Winner to enjoy their moment and sales? I don't know to be honest. Usually it's mothers day when the runners up release things, so 3 months at the very most. I thin kit depends who they sign to - if it's Syco then the contract would probably be nullified anyway so they could release tomorrow if they felt like it.
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Melody
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Post by Melody on Dec 17, 2007 15:13:36 GMT 1
Can I throw my hat into the ring. I'm delighted for little Leon that he won. I thought he was very likeable and has a lovely rich tone to his voice that hopefully training and experience will nurture and bring out. Im not surprised if he was a bit wobbly on GMTV this morning - its a big deal for a young lad like him - I hope people will give him time. It's a dream come true for him - he's never sung anywhere other than his living room before this show - so he needs time to adjust and settle and reach his full potential. He got the most votes on Saturday night - (apparently according to Louis Walsh on tv today - he was 10% ahead) so that makes him the rightful winner. Reading some of the forums on the internet - I feel rather ashamed of being Welsh today - the way some Rhydian fans are behaving. I never thought I would ever say that. The winners song is the most awful dirge - the worst ever I think. What an awful song to have as our Christmas No 1 - but good luck to Leon - it's not his fault he's been given such a dreadful song to sing. I hope it all goes well for him and he makes a bit of money for himself and his family and makes life better for them all. Love Melody xx
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Post by musicfan2000 on Dec 17, 2007 16:00:45 GMT 1
im loving the winners song now,it stuck in my head,give the song time its a grower
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Dec 17, 2007 18:12:17 GMT 1
Well said Melody
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Post by Toy Toy's Boy on Dec 17, 2007 19:28:51 GMT 1
Blocking the lines for Rhydian is a stupid allegation, as I know me and my family had to try about 20 times before getting through the line for Leon.
I hate how no matter what happens in life, someone is always there making up some ridiculous conspiracy.
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Post by daveyboy on Dec 17, 2007 21:46:45 GMT 1
He got the most votes on Saturday night - (apparently according to Louis Walsh on tv today - he was 10% ahead) so that makes him the rightful winner. That's interesting Melody, because I've just checked my recording and Dermot announced 18 minutes before vote lines were closed that there was only 1% between the two of them. So why was there such a big swing to Leon right at the end? I think there are three main reasons for it: 1) The duets: Kylie is better known and does better pop music than Katherine - and her duet with Leon was done very well. Katherine and Rhydian's voices and singing styles were, sadly, incompatible and few of the undecided voters would have been excited by it, I certainly wasn't. 2) Leon probably picked up more Same Difference voters than Rhydian, after they were eliminated. They are more similar acts to each other than either is to Rhydian. But they were only 1% apart with about 18 minutes to the close of the vote lines, so what happened after the duets? Well... 3) Leon finished his 10 minute single/family/sob segment 18 minutes before vote lines were closed so late voters who were persuaded by that had time to actually vote. Rhydian's single and family/sob segment finished only 3 minutes before vote lines closed (on my recording) so late voters had almost no time to vote. Rhydian drew the short straw (or was given it). I don't think there was any vote fixing (they wouldn't dare after this year's vote line scandals) but as reality show producers know all about the disadvantage of appearing only a few minutes before vote lines close, they probably wanted Leon to win but on last night's evidence, he probably would have won anyway. The duet killed Rhydian but I think he will sell more albums over the next few years than Leon, we shall see.
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Post by LittleChristmasTurkey on Dec 17, 2007 22:10:15 GMT 1
I think option 2 is actually a very plausible explaination. Rhydian, being a marmite act, would have had a lot of people voting for his opposition just because they didn't want him to win. Previous to Same Difference going out, those people would probably have been voting SD as the act most likely to beat him; after that, they voted for Leon instead.
Option 3 isn't really an option - it's been the same in previous finals and the person going second has always won previously.
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Post by daveyboy on Dec 17, 2007 22:13:56 GMT 1
Option 3 isn't really an option - it's been the same in previous finals and the person going second has always won previously. Oh, right. It's just that huge swing to Leon at the end that (still) puzzles me and according to Dermot, they were neck and neck at the end of Leon's final segment, so how do we explain that?
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