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Post by -Big Dan- on Apr 3, 2009 19:19:32 GMT 1
On the whole, I'm finding myself strangely unexcited about WM, particularly the WWE and World Title matches. MITB and HBK/Undertaker should be good though.
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Post by Panda on Apr 3, 2009 22:51:22 GMT 1
On the whole, I'm finding myself strangely unexcited about WM, particularly the WWE and World Title matches. MITB and HBK/Undertaker should be good though. I know what you mean... The matches should be good but apart from HBK-Taker, I'm not particularly bothered about any of them... That said, going through the card, there's nothing there that should be particularly bad (apart from Jericho being wasted in the legends match), so it should be a pretty good show, overall.
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Post by Sauron on Apr 4, 2009 13:09:54 GMT 1
I agree, nothing really exciting about WM. I'm not really sure that the MITB match will be as good as previous years. With people like Mark Henry, Kane and Finlay. I can't imagine there will be a lot of jumping of the ladder action.
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Post by Panda on Apr 4, 2009 15:46:38 GMT 1
My predictions:
WWE title: As I've previously said, I think it'll either be HHH and Edge that win, or Orton and Cena. They've been building Orton up so much it would seem silly not to put the title on him now. Having said that, this is HHH and he hasn't won at WM for 6 years. I think it'll be Orton though and I wouldn't be surprised to see at least one McMahon turn on Triple H. Orton
World Heavyweight title: By default, I pick Cena for this one.
Money In The Bank Ladder match: I tipped MVP to win this a long time ago so I'll stick with my original pick, though I'm less sure since he won the US title. CM Punk winning again is a definite possibility, if slightly pointless. I think it's too soon for Kofi Kingston and I don't believe Christian has enough support high up in the company. The rest are likely to be making up the numbers. MVP
HBK v Taker They've done a great job building this match up, portraying Shawn Michaels as the biggest threat yet to end "the streak" and winning the mind games ahead of the match. But it's WM and it's Undertaker, so... Undertaker
Hardy vs Hardy The outcome of this might depend on whether the feud is set to continue beyond WM. If it is, Matt could win here. If not, it'll be Jeff. I think Jeff could be back in the World title picture soon, so I'll pick him. Jeff Hardy
Intercontinental title Whatever happens, this will probably be JBL's last match. Rey Mysterio retired him a few years ago and has the chance to do so again but I think JBL will somehow retain the title and then retire as champion (the "historic" event he talked about). JBL
Tag titles This is a tough one. John Morrison & The Miz are two of the hardest working guys in the company and probably deserve to win here. Having said that, John Morrison should really be moving onto bigger things soon and having the tag titles would further delay that. But I think it'll be him and The Miz winning. Morrison & The Miz
25 Diva Battle Royal This is a tough one to call as we haven't seen the full list of participants. If Trish Stratus is in the match, I think she wins. If not, it's probably between 4: Melina, Beth, Maryse and Gail Kim. I think it's too soon for Gail to win, so I'll go for one of the others. I'll go for Melina with Santino possibly costing Beth the win. Melina if Trish Stratus isn't in the match
Jericho v Legends What a waste of Jericho. This was supposed to be Jericho v Mickey Rourke but Rourke backed out. He'll still probably play some part in the match and help the legends get the victory, probably after Jericho has eliminated 2 of them. Legends
One more thing to consider: The MITB has never been cashed in at WM itself and it probably won't happen here but eventually it will. It would've been a great story if Christian won the MITB then cashed it in after Edge retained the title. It won't happen, though.
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Post by Sauron on Apr 5, 2009 12:24:53 GMT 1
My Predictions:
WWE Title: Orton (I can't remember the last time HHH won at WM) World Title: Edge MITB: Christian HBK vs Undertaker: Undertaker (obviously) Matt Hardy vs Jeff Hardy: Matt Hardy IC Title: Rey Mysterio Tag Titles: Mizz & Morrison (The only good tag team is WWE, IMO) 25 Diva Battle Royal: Melina Y2J vs Legends: Y2J
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Post by Panda on Apr 5, 2009 17:53:52 GMT 1
I can't remember the last time HHH won at WM You have to go back to WM19 when he beat Booker T. WM20: Lost title to Chris Benoit WM21: Lost title to Batista WM22: Lost to John Cena WM23: Missed due to injury WM24: Lost to Randy Orton (Triple Threat with Cena)
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Post by Sauron on Apr 5, 2009 18:57:38 GMT 1
HHH really should win this year, purely because he deserves a win at WM!
I must admit, I'm starting to get a little excited about WM. I just hope it's a good one, and not a average WM like the match card suggests.
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Post by -Big Dan- on Apr 5, 2009 20:37:14 GMT 1
I'd really like Shelton Benjamin to win MITB.
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Post by Panda on Apr 5, 2009 20:59:16 GMT 1
I'd really like Shelton Benjamin to win MITB. It would be great for him to get the push his talent deserves. He looked destined for big things a few years ago but then he just got buried...
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Post by Panda on Apr 6, 2009 18:07:22 GMT 1
Wrestlemania results:
CM Punk won the Money In The Bank Ladder Match
Santino Marella's "twin sister Santina" won the Divas Battle Royal
Chris Jericho bt Superfly Jimmy Snuka, Rowdy Roddy Piper & Ricy Steamboat in a Handicap Elimination Match
Matt Hardy bt Jeff Hardy in an Extreme Rules Match
Rey Mysterio bt JBL to become the NEW Intercontinental champion
The Undertaker bt Shawn Michaels
John Cena bt Edge & The Big Show in a Triple Threat Match to become the NEW World Heavyweight champion
Triple H bt Randy Orton to retain the WWE title
The tag title match took place before the PPV with Carlito & Primo beating John Morrison & The Miz to become the undisputed Tag Team champions.
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Post by -Big Dan- on Apr 7, 2009 13:40:54 GMT 1
Vickie Guerrero is the new GM of Raw. Also, the main event for Backlash has been set:
Six-man Tag (WWE Championship, if HHH's team wins then HHH is Champion, if Orton's team wins then Orton is Champion):
Triple H, Shane McMahon and Batista vs. Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase
The draft is taking place next week on Raw. I think it's pretty much a given that HHH and Cena will be trading places for starters.
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Post by Panda on Apr 7, 2009 15:15:16 GMT 1
Going back to WM, overall it was a slightly disappointing show but was rescued by HBK-Taker, which will easily be the best match of the year and is probably one of the best matches I've ever seen...
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Post by Panda on Apr 7, 2009 15:43:56 GMT 1
My updated WWE rankings following Wrestlemania...
(Positions after No Way Out are in brackets)
If wrestlers are level on points, the wrestler who has taken part in fewer matches gets the higher position.
1(2) Triple H 216 pts 2(3) John Cena 215 3(1) Edge 180 4(11) CM Punk 153 5(9) Rey Mysterio 139 6(8) Big Show 120 7(13) MVP 118.5 8(5) Undertaker 111 9(12) Kane 103.5 10(7) Randy Orton 103 11(4) Jack Swagger 89.5 12(6) Vladimir Kozlov 88 13(10) Chris Jericho 87 14(15) Kofi Kingston 86 15(21) Finlay 83.5 16(25) Shelton Benjamin 80.5 17(23) Mark Henry 72.5 18(22) Jeff Hardy 70 19(19) John Morrison 57.5 20(17) The Miz 56.5 21(30) JBL 54 22(27) Matt Hardy 54 23(14) William Regal 53 24(20) Mike Knox 49 25(32) Shawn Michaels 49 26(16) R-Truth 47 27(24) Carlito 47 28(54) Christian 47 29(18) The Great Khali 42 30(40) Santino Marella 41
Top 10 Divas: 1(1) Melina 68 2(2) Beth Phoenix 42 3(3) Michelle McCool 33 4(-) Maryse 28 5(4) Kelly Kelly 26 6= (16) Mickie James 22 6= (6) Maria 22 8(4) Jillian Hall 20 9(7) Brie Bella 17 10(7) Nikki Bella 15
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Post by Panda on Apr 7, 2009 16:09:19 GMT 1
Also confirmed for Backlash:
World Heavyweight title, Last Man Standing match: John Cena v Edge
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Post by Panda on Apr 7, 2009 17:06:52 GMT 1
My highs and lows of Wrestlemania:
Highs The amazing HBK-Taker match Ricky Steamboat still being awesome Santina's celebrations Cena's entrance MITB
Lows The divas battle royal The Hardys' match being somewhat unmemorable The ridiculously short IC title match The tag title match being bumped off the card
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Post by -Big Dan- on Apr 7, 2009 17:29:39 GMT 1
I agree with that. After the World Heavyweight Title match I was thinking to myself 'Surely the Tag Title match isn't still to come..', and then I found out it took place before WM.
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Post by Sauron on Apr 7, 2009 17:39:29 GMT 1
On the whole WM was just OK. Undertaker vs HBK was by far the best match and will easily be match of the year. At one point they actually made me think that HBK had a shot at winning. It was just an amazing match. The MITB match was much better than I was expecting it to be. Shelton and Kofi were my two favourites from the match. Still not sure about CM Punk winning, unless of course they are thinking of a heel turn. And yes it was quite annoying that the tag team match was missed out. And instead we got 10 minutes of Kid Rock. . It was also great to hear Cena's old theme music.
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Post by Panda on Apr 7, 2009 19:37:30 GMT 1
I agree with that. After the World Heavyweight Title match I was thinking to myself 'Surely the Tag Title match isn't still to come..', and then I found out it took place before WM. I actually read at about 11 on Sunday night that it had been bumped but the order of the matches could've been handled better. The IC title match should've been earlier in the order and they should've stuck the Divas match after HBK-Taker, as the crowd was pretty dead for the first half of the triple threat (understandable after the match they'd just seen).
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Post by -Big Dan- on Apr 14, 2009 16:44:07 GMT 1
2009 Draft Results:
To RAW
Big Show Maryse (Divas' Title now on Raw) Matt Hardy MVP (US Title now on Raw) The Miz Triple H
To Smackdown
Chris Jericho CM Punk Kane Melina (Women's Title now on Smackdown) Rey Mysterio (IC Title now on Smackdown)
To ECW
Vladimir Kozlov
The supplemental draft will be taking place tomorrow.
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Post by Panda on Apr 14, 2009 20:31:46 GMT 1
So both world titles still on Raw...
I guess that means either Edge will beat Cena at Backlash or there will be some sort of blockbuster trade that will see Cena go to Smackdown.
With HHH going to Raw, I'm very glad Jericho is now on Smackdown... How great would a Jericho-Undertaker feud be?
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