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Post by Robin on Jul 13, 2009 11:29:57 GMT 1
Ponting has been known to spit his dummy on a number of occasions. They really should have won and they didn't, perhaps he needs to look at his own team a little! England have many short-comings but Australia certainly aren't the team they once were.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jul 13, 2009 11:33:44 GMT 1
the top order batsmen only got 99 runs in the two innings but it looks like the only changes that will be made are bowling ones
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Post by Panda on Jul 13, 2009 12:56:05 GMT 1
The problem with the batsmen is that it's hard to choose who to drop.
Collingwood played well in this test so he stays. Pietersen was crap but is still our best batsman and is probably untouchable anyway so he stays. Strauss was playing well before this test and is captain so he stays. Bopara had played well since coming into the side and was unlucky to be given out in the 2nd innings on Saturday, so he stays. That just leaves Cook, whom the powers that be seem to have a lot of faith in...
It's much easier to justify dropping a bowler because they're playing badly over a longer period of time. A batsman can be out with just one mistake (and sometimes without even making a mistake). England's bowlers managed to produce 181 overs of mediocrity.
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Post by frag on Jul 13, 2009 13:16:58 GMT 1
The top order batsmen were atrocious, I did cheer when we drew and told Sam with England's cricket team, you celebrate a non-defeat like a win! And how about this for sour grapes? You're not telling me the Aussies would do, or have done exactly the same thing in the past! news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/8146927.stmAnd also, after Swann was hurt by a bouncer that hit his hand, the next two balls seemed to be aimed straight at his head. Is trying to injure someone "in the spirit of the game"?
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Post by Panda on Jul 13, 2009 14:01:17 GMT 1
A 14-man squad has been announced for the 2nd test, featuring the 13 who were in the squad for the 1st test, plus Harmison.
Andrew Flintoff is a doubt for the 2nd test after twisting his knee in the field during the 1st test.
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Post by Elmer on Jul 13, 2009 15:32:09 GMT 1
It did make me laugh when Shafayat came onto the field again and I seemed to lip read Ponting saying "What the f*** are you doing out here?". I'd have felt the same if I were an Aussie. Stupid thing to do and poor sportsmanship !!
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Post by Tom on Jul 13, 2009 16:19:08 GMT 1
Topsy-turvy last 2 days when i started to take an interest. After the first innings and with rain forecast i couldn't see past a draw, barring an England collapse...Then yesterday i couldnt see past an England defeat, actually forgot to check the score after 4pm (couldn't be bothered to watch any of it)!
Its been brought up recently that Pietersen always seems to get out very cheaply, his dismissal yesterday from what i saw on the news last night seemed rather embarassing for such a talented batsman!
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Post by Robin on Jul 13, 2009 16:21:34 GMT 1
Jimmy Anderson's batting has really improved over the last couple of years. I remember him being rather useless and clumsy at the start of his career, but when he came into bat yesterday I had real confidance that he could hang on! Monty was the only weak batting link, but he did what was asked of him!
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Post by o on Jul 13, 2009 20:42:39 GMT 1
Anderson has never scored a duck in 50 tests apparently!
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Post by Panda on Jul 13, 2009 21:01:20 GMT 1
Anderson has never scored a duck in 50 tests apparently! I think it's 50 innings, rather than 50 tests but it's still some achievement.
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Post by frag on Jul 13, 2009 23:06:49 GMT 1
Yes, 50 innings.
Who are the other two that didn't bat in the first test but aren't Harmison?
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Post by Panda on Jul 13, 2009 23:12:38 GMT 1
Ian Bell, who was in the squad as a back-up batsman, and Harmison's Durham team-mate Graham Onions, who is likely to play in the 2nd test at the expense of Monty Panesar.
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Post by frag on Jul 13, 2009 23:30:17 GMT 1
At a glance, Bell, Onions and Harmison in for Cook, Panesar and Broad? (I reckon Harmison for Broad is the least likely of these)
Taking out a batsman who isn't performing should hopefully make the others buck their ideas up a bit.
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Post by Panda on Jul 13, 2009 23:36:55 GMT 1
The problem is Bell isn't an improvement on any of those who played in Cardiff. He can do OK as a supporting batsman, but if things aren't going well, he's not someone who'll get you out of trouble like Collingwood did. I remember hearing some stat regarding Bell's test centuries - he's never made a hundred in a test innings without someone else making one first.
Onions in for Panesar looks very likely. It's possible the only other change might be Harmison for Flintoff if Freddie isn't fit enough... Broad will probably keep his place (though I'd bat Swann ahead of him at 7 if Flintoff's out), fitness permitting, as he apparently has a bit of a calf injury.
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Post by Robin on Jul 16, 2009 12:43:55 GMT 1
Second test commences at Lords and England, who won the toss have got off to a rather fine start. Currently 98-0, but still a long long way to go!
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Post by frag on Jul 16, 2009 12:48:29 GMT 1
Onions for Panesar is indeed the only change. I think Australia are unchanged, not certain, though.
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Post by Robin on Jul 16, 2009 12:56:16 GMT 1
Yes they are unchanged. Mitchell Johnson has been having a bit of a shocker this morning!
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jul 16, 2009 13:22:24 GMT 1
126-0 after the morning session, thats a lot better from england
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Post by Robin on Jul 16, 2009 15:37:04 GMT 1
245-2 with Cook and Bopara out! Good innings by Cook but he'll be kicking himself for falling just shy of a test hundred!
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Post by frag on Jul 16, 2009 20:08:32 GMT 1
364-6, poor last session for England with a few very cheap wickets given away. Strauss still there on 161, Broad joins him on 7 after Bopara, Collingwood, Pietersen, Flintoff and Prior all falling cheaply (78 runs between the five of them)
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