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Post by Panda on Jun 10, 2009 23:11:49 GMT 1
European Group 6: ENGLAND 6-0 ANDORRA UKRAINE 2-1 KAZAKHSTAN 7 wins out of 7 for England who are realistically just one win from qualification. Ukraine came from behind to beat Kazakhstan and go level on points with Croatia. 1. England 7-21 (+22) 2. Croatia 6-11 (+6) 3. Ukraine 6-11 (+3) 4. Belarus 5-9 (+7) 5. Kazakhstan 7-3 (-15) 6. Andorra 7-0 (-23)
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Post by Panda on Jun 10, 2009 23:16:42 GMT 1
European Group 7: FAROE ISLANDS 0-2 SERBIA Serbia go 8 points clear at the top, though France have 2 games in hand and still have to travel to Serbia. 1. Serbia 7-18 (+10) 2. France 5-10 (+1) 3. Lithuania 7-9 (0) 4. Austria 6-7 (-2) 5. Romania 6-7 (-3) 6. Faroe Islands 5-1 (-6)
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Post by Panda on Jun 10, 2009 23:22:05 GMT 1
European Group 9: MACEDONIA 2-0 ICELAND NETHERLANDS 2-0 NORWAY Holland's domination of the group continues. A win against Scotland in September would complete a clean sweep. Norway are still without a win. Iceland are eliminated after their defeat to Macedonia. 1. Netherlands (Q) 7-21 (+14) 2. Scotland 5-7 (-2) 3. Macedonia 6-7 (-3) 4. Iceland 7-4 (-6) 5. Norway 5-3 (-3)
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Post by Panda on Jun 10, 2009 23:28:36 GMT 1
European runners-up table:
1. Russia 5-12 (+8) 2. France 5-10 (+1) 3. Bosnia 5-9 (+8) 4. Hungary 4-7 (+2) 5. Switzerland 4-7 (+1) 6. Rep. of Ireland 5-7 (+1) 7. Northern Ireland 5-7 (-1) 8. Scotland 5-7 (-2) ----------------------------------- 9. Croatia 4-5 (0)
The top 8 runners-up go into the play-offs. The bottom-placed runner-up is eliminated. Results against 6th-placed teams do not count towards the runners-up table.
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Post by Panda on Jun 11, 2009 0:02:52 GMT 1
An early result from South America: ECUADOR 2-0 ARGENTINA Another high altitude defeat for Diego Maradona's Argentina as Ecuador give themselves a great chance of finishing in the top 4. The other 8 South American teams are in action later tonight. 1. Brazil 13-24 (+18) 2. Paraguay 13-24 (+8) 3. Chile 13-23 (+5) 4. Argentina 14-22 (+4) ------------------------------ 5. Ecuador 14-20 (-2) ------------------------------ 6. Uruguay 13-17 (+7) 7. Venezuela 13-16 (-7) 8. Colombia 13-14 (-5) 9. Bolivia 13-12 (-7) 10. Peru 13-7 (-21) Tonight's fixtures: SOUTH AMERICA Brazil v Paraguay Chile v Bolivia Colombia v Peru Venezuela v Uruguay CONCACAF Honduras v El Salvador Mexico v Trinidad & Tobago
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Post by Maximo Mark on Jun 11, 2009 11:32:55 GMT 1
Argentina still have to play Brazil at home and travel to Paraguay and Uraguay. Could they not qualify automatically?!
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Post by vastar iner on Jun 11, 2009 12:20:00 GMT 1
Never underestimate the tactical ability of Diego Maradona.
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Post by Panda on Jun 11, 2009 13:08:01 GMT 1
The rest of last night's matches... South America: BRAZIL 2-1 PARAGUAY CHILE 4-0 BOLIVIA COLOMBIA 1-0 PERU VENEZUELA 2-2 URUGUAY Brazil are on the verge of qualification after beating Paraguay. They could seal their place in South Africa with victory over Argentina in September. Paraguay's poor run of form continues. They're now without a win in 4, having led for so long. Chile are up to 2nd after an easy win over Bolivia and look like qualifying for the first time since 1998. Ecuador remain 5th after Venezuela and Uruguay drew. Peru are the first South American team to be eliminated after they lost in Colombia. 1. Brazil 14-27 (+19) 2. Chile 14-26 (+9) 3. Paraguay 14-24 (+7) 4. Argentina 14-22 (+4) ---------------------------- 5. Ecuador 14-20 (-2) ---------------------------- 6. Uruguay 14-18 (+7) 7. Colombia 14-17 (-4) 8. Venezuela 14-17 (-7) 9. Bolivia 14-12 (-11) 10. Peru 14-7 (-22) Next fixtures (Sep 5): Argentina v Brazil Chile v Venezuela Colombia v Ecuador Paraguay v Bolivia Peru v Uruguay
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Post by Panda on Jun 11, 2009 13:17:10 GMT 1
CONCACAF 4th round: HONDURAS 1-0 EL SALVADOR MEXICO 2-1 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO Honduras move into the top 3 with victory over their fierce rivals. Mexico's campaign is back on track after victory over Trinidad & Tobago and they occupy the play-off spot at the halfway stage in the group. 1. Costa Rica 5-12 (+4) 2. USA 5-10 (+4) 3. Honduras 5-7 (0) ----------------------------- 4. Mexico 5-6 (-2) ----------------------------- 5. El Salvador 5-5 (-1) 6. Trinidad & Tobago 5-2 (-5) Next fixtures (Aug 12): Honduras v Costa Rica Mexico v USA Trinidad & Tobago v El Salvador
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Post by Panda on Jun 11, 2009 13:21:50 GMT 1
Upcoming World Cup action:
17 Jun: final round of games in Asia 20-21 Jun: next round of games in Africa 5 Jul: Egypt v Rwanda (delayed from June due to Confederations Cup) 12 Aug: next round of games for CONCACAF, 5 games in Europe 5-9 Sep: Full programme of games in Europe, South America, Africa, CONCACAF plus Asian play-offs
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Post by o on Jun 11, 2009 21:03:31 GMT 1
Cheers mrh, that has filled me in greatly, I wondered how Australia and Japan had qualified already, man that's an easy group! I know it's the World Cup, but I do think we should have more teams from Europe in, I mean playing Qatar and Bahrain, come on!
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Post by suedehead on Jun 11, 2009 22:32:10 GMT 1
Never underestimate the tactical ability of Diego Maradona. Yes, you've got to hand it to him
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Post by Panda on Jun 11, 2009 23:09:22 GMT 1
Cheers mrh, that has filled me in greatly, I wondered how Australia and Japan had qualified already, man that's an easy group! I know it's the World Cup, but I do think we should have more teams from Europe in, I mean playing Qatar and Bahrain, come on! It's easy for them but what can you do? At least Australia have a bit more competition than when they were playing Tonga and American Samoa, followed by a play-off. I do think 4.5 places is too much for Asia. Apart from South Korea's run to the semis in 2002, Asian teams have done nothing in the World Cup. None even made the knockout stages in 2006 (Australia were still representing Oceania). I'd knock them down to 4 and give Europe the extra half a place, meaning one of the European runners-up can play the South American play-off team and have New Zealand vs the 4th-placed CONCACAF team. This is how the places have been allocated in recent World Cups: Year | Hosts | Champs | Eur | SA | Afr | Asia | N&CA | Oce | 1982 | 1 | 1 | 13 | 3 | 2 | 2* | 2 | N/A | 1986 | 1 | 1 | 12.5 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0.5 | 1990 | 1 | 1 | 13 | 2.5 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 0.5 | 1994 | 1 | 1 | 12 | 3.5 | 3 | 2 | 1.25 | 0.25 | 1998 | 1 | 1 | 14 | 4 | 5 | 3.5 | 3 | 0.5 | 2002 | 2 | 1 | 13.5 | 4.5 | 5 | 2.5 | 3 | 0.5 | 2006 | 1 | 0 | 13 | 4.5 | 5 | 4.5 | 3.5 | 0.5 | 2010 | 1 | 0 | 13 | 4.5 | 5 | 4.5 | 3.5 | 0.5 |
* - Teams from Oceania competed in the Asian qualifying section until the 1986 World Cup.
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Post by Shireblogger on Jun 12, 2009 12:53:05 GMT 1
I do think 4.5 places is too much for Asia. Apart from South Korea's run to the semis in 2002, Asian teams have done nothing in the World Cup. None even made the knockout stages in 2006 (Australia were still representing Oceania). I'd knock them down to 4 and give Europe the extra half a place, meaning one of the European runners-up can play the South American play-off team and have New Zealand vs the 4th-placed CONCACAF team. But it isn't just about football skill. Asia has the largest population on the planet, and rapidly growing economies. FIFA wants to sell its media and merchandising rights for as much money as possible. Ergo, one extra European team, probably from a small country like Croatia, Switzerland or the Republic of Ireland (all of which are in 2nd place in their groups at the moment); or an extra Asian country, and possibly the only one from that part of Asia (e.g. Saudi Arabia as the only Middle Eastern qualifier, or Uzbekistan as the only central Asian qualifier) ? It's a no brainer really - get the extra Asian country in. Its for similar reasons that the competition is designed to almost guarantee US qualification.
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Post by vastar iner on Jun 12, 2009 14:16:24 GMT 1
The problem is is that it holds Asian football back. Look at Turkey. Its record in World Cup finals is equal to that of the whole of Asia. Despite fewer successful qualifications. Would it have reached the semis had it had to qualify against the likes of Saudi "0-8" Arabia as its TOUGHEST match? Better to mix up the continental feds on that basis. Let Japan toughen themselves against better opposition. Maybe scrap the continental tournaments and have a knockout World Cup a la FA Cup, with a final four or eight in a neutral country played off in non-WC years. No seeding, just for things & giggles.
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Post by Tom on Jun 14, 2009 17:09:20 GMT 1
An early result from South America: ECUADOR 2-0 ARGENTINA Another high altitude defeat for Diego Maradona's Argentina as Ecuador give themselves a great chance of finishing in the top 4. The other 8 South American teams are in action later tonight. I haven't been impressed with Argentina on the couple of occasions i've seen highlights of their games, and if they do qualify for 2010 they may be in a spot of bother given this result! Some of the venues in S Africa (Jo'burg and Pretoria have been mentioned) are at altitude!
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Post by Panda on Jun 17, 2009 15:56:39 GMT 1
Early results from Asia... Asian 4th round, Group 1: AUSTRALIA 2-1 JAPAN 2 second half goals from Tim Cahill ensure Australia finish top of the group. Bahrain host Uzbekistan later with the winner taking the play-off place. 1. Australia (Q) 8-20 (+11) 2. Japan (Q) 8-15 (+5) ---------------------------- 3. Bahrain 7-7 (-3) ---------------------------- 4. Qatar 8-6 (-9) 5. Uzbekistan 7-4 (-4)
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Post by Panda on Jun 17, 2009 16:03:33 GMT 1
Asian 4th round, Group 2: SOUTH KOREA 1-1 IRAN A late equaliser from Park Ji-Sung means a play-off place is the best Iran can hope for. They will now be hoping there is a winner in the game later between Saudi Arabia and North Korea. 1. South Korea (Q) 8-16 (+8) 2. North Korea 7-11 (+2) ------------------------------- 3. Iran 8-11 (+1) ------------------------------- 4. Saudi Arabia 7-11 (0) 5. UAE 8-1 (-11) If North Korea win: North Korea qualify, Iran go into playoffs If Saudi Arabia win: Saudi Arabia qualify, Iran go into playoffs unless North Korea only lose by 1 goal and score at least 2 goals themselves If it's a draw: North Korea qualify, Saudi Arabia go into playoffs.
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Post by vastar iner on Jun 17, 2009 22:09:37 GMT 1
Glory to the Dear Leader, under his wise guidance and on-the-spot advice the Democratic People's Republic shall demonstrate the superiority of juche in South Africa in 2010.
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Post by Panda on Jun 17, 2009 23:32:01 GMT 1
Tonight's scores... Asian 4th round, Group 1: BAHRAIN 1-0 UZBEKISTAN They only needed a point but Bahrain got 3 and take 3rd place in the group, qualifying for the play-off. 1. Australia (Q) 8-20 (+11) 2. Japan (Q) 8-15 (+5) ---------------------------- 3. Bahrain (P) 8-10 (-2) ---------------------------- 4. Qatar 8-6 (-9) 5. Uzbekistan 8-4 (-5)
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