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Post by frag on Nov 14, 2009 13:37:55 GMT 1
Incidentally, the possibility of whether or not Australia and New Zealand could be drawn together in the finals could depend on who wins the playoff between Uruguay and Costa Rica. If Costa Rica win, the 4 CONCACAF teams will probably be placed in a pot with the 4 Asian teams, leaving New Zealand to go into the same pot as the 5 African qualifiers and the 2 unseeded South American teams (assuming Argentina are among the seeds). However, if Uruguay beat Costa Rica, New Zealand would probably go into the same pot as the Asia and CONCACAF teams. Argentina will be among the seeds if FIFA use the same system as they did in 2006. According to this blog post, the battle for the final place is between Portugal and France, and could depend on how the two teams go through in the play-offs (assuming both do go through - if both go out, then the Netherlands would take the final seeding place. That site lists the following ranking (as of October 16th): South Africa 1 Brazil 59.7 29.3 30.3 2 Germany 59.3 30.3 29.0 3 Italy 56.7 27.3 29.3 4 Spain 56.0 25.3 30.7 5 England 51.3 26.3 25.0 6 Argentina 49.7 21.0 28.7 7 France 48.0 23.3 24.7 -------------------------------- 8 Portugal 47.3 22.3 25.0 9 Netherlands 43.0 14.7 28.3
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Post by vastar iner on Nov 14, 2009 13:43:20 GMT 1
^ An example why the seeding criteria are hopeless. Two also-rans will have a seeding whereas teams qualifying with ease will not?
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 14:44:35 GMT 1
Their 5th-best team misses out so they should only have 1 or 2 places? Their 5th best team is not as good as the 2nd best Oceania team. The best Oceania team is better than all of the Asian teams. I'm assuming, for the purposes of your argument, you're still regarding Australia as an Oceania team.
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Post by suedehead on Nov 14, 2009 15:23:45 GMT 1
Could be some shocks in the African section then, Gabon, blimey! Tunisia or Nigeria missing out, and Egypt having to win well. I do find it daft when the North American section is only 6 teams, 3 of which qualify, with 4th place having a play off, so only 2 teams get dumped out! I'd take another African and European team over some of those Asian, North/South American teams. The North American section (CONCACAF) started with 35 teams with six making it to the final stage. That doesn't alter the fact that it is over-represented but there are more thaan two countries eliminated.
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 16:03:30 GMT 1
African 3rd round, Group B: KENYA 2-3 NIGERIA MOZAMBIQUE 1-0 TUNISIA NIGERIA qualify for the World CupAn amazing end to Group B with the qualifying place changing hands several times during the 90 minutes. At half-time it was Tunisia topping the group with their game against Mozambique goalless and Kenya leading Nigeria 1-0. But goals in the space of 4 minutes from Obafemi Martins and Yakubu put Nigeria ahead and on their way to the finals. But with 11 minutes to go Kenya equalised to seemingly hand Tunisia 1st place in the group. However, at almost the same time, Mozambique took an unlikely lead and Martins' second goal minutes later means Nigeria qualify and Tunisia miss out for the first time since 1994. Mozambique's win means they pip Kenya to 3rd place in the group and qualify for January's African Nations Cup. 1. Nigeria (Q) 6-12 (+5) ---------------------- 2. Tunisia 6-11 (+3) 3. Mozambique 6-7 (-2) 4. Kenya 6-3 (-6)
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Post by vastar iner on Nov 14, 2009 17:03:26 GMT 1
Their 5th best team is not as good as the 2nd best Oceania team. The best Oceania team is better than all of the Asian teams. I'm assuming, for the purposes of your argument, you're still regarding Australia as an Oceania team. Yes, geographically and culturally they are still Oceania, even if they transferred to Asia to obtain an easy finals place. Job done.
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 18:29:08 GMT 1
African 3rd round, Group A: MOROCCO 0-2 CAMEROON TOGO 1-0 GABON CAMEROON qualify for the World CupCameroon return to the finals after missing out in 2006 after a comfortable victory over Morocco. That meant Gabon's result was irrelevant. Togo qualify for the African Nations Cup ahead of Morocco. 1. Cameroon (Q) 6-13 (+7) --------------------------- 2. Gabon 6-9 (+2) 3. Togo 6-8 (-4) 4. Morocco 6-3 (-5)
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 18:38:47 GMT 1
Amr Zaki gives Egypt a 2nd-minute lead against Algeria...
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 18:57:38 GMT 1
African 3rd round, Group E: BURKINA FASO 1-0 MALAWI IVORY COAST 3-0 GUINEA Ivory Coast had already won the group but their win over Guinea means Malawi qualify for the African Nations Cup. 1. Ivory Coast (Q) 6-16 (+15) ---------------------------- 2. Burkina Faso 6-12 (-1) 3. Malawi 6-4 (-7) 4. Guinea 6-3 (-7)
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 19:00:26 GMT 1
European playoff 1st leg: RUSSIA 2-1 SLOVENIA A late goal from Nejc Pecnik gives Slovenia hope heading into the 2nd leg. 2 goals from Everton's Dinyar Bilyaletdinov had Russia seemingly in control but Pecnik's goal means a 1-0 win will be enough for Slovenia to qualify on Wednesday.
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 19:26:06 GMT 1
1-0 to Egypt at half-time. As it stands, Algeria still going through...
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 20:30:25 GMT 1
Still 1-0 in Cairo. 6 minutes of stoppage time being played...
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 20:32:58 GMT 1
Egypt score in the 95th minute!
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Post by ligerdog7 on Nov 14, 2009 20:35:27 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 20:36:02 GMT 1
African 3rd round, Group C: EGYPT 2-0 ALGERIA RWANDA 0-0 ZAMBIA Egypt and Algeria have to do it all again on Wednesday after Emad Meteab's stoppage time equaliser ensured the two sides finished tied at the top of the group. They will have a playoff in Sudan to decide who qualifies. Algeria had held on for over 90 minutes after Amr Zaki gave Egypt the lead inside 2 minutes. Earlier, Zambia got a point in Rwanda to qualify for the African Nations Cup. 1= Algeria 6-13 (+5) 1= Egypt 6-13 (+5) 3. Zambia 6-5 (-3) 4. Rwanda 6-2 (-7)
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 20:42:37 GMT 1
France are about to kick off against Ireland. Germany aren't playing today but they've already qualified anyway.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Nov 14, 2009 20:50:02 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 20:52:54 GMT 1
African 3rd round, Group D: SUDAN 1-2 BENIN Benin win a match that didn't mean a great deal. Ghana and Mali play tomorrow for some reason. 1. Ghana (Q) 5-12 (+6) ------------------------- 2. Benin 6-10 (0) 3. Mali 5-8 (+1) 4. Sudan 5-1 (-7)
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 20:55:57 GMT 1
QUALIFIERS SO FAR: HOSTS SOUTH AFRICA EUROPE DENMARK ENGLAND GERMANY ITALY NETHERLANDS SERBIA SLOVAKIA SPAIN SWITZERLAND SOUTH AMERICA ARGENTINA BRAZIL CHILE PARAGUAY AFRICA CAMEROON GHANA IVORY COAST NIGERIA CONCACAF HONDURAS MEXICO UNITED STATES ASIA AUSTRALIA JAPAN NORTH KOREA SOUTH KOREA OCEANIA NEW ZEALAND
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Post by Panda on Nov 14, 2009 21:02:54 GMT 1
European playoff 1st leg: GREECE 0-0 UKRAINE All square after the 1st leg but Ukraine will probably be the happier of the two sides despite the lack of an away goal.
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