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Post by o on Jun 29, 2010 9:59:52 GMT 1
Cheers for the ages of the players mrh, never realised Lampard was 32! And I agree with keeping gerrard, as long as he is played where he does well. What is worrying is what we have in attack, apart from Rooney who was never at the races this world cup!
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Post by frag on Jun 29, 2010 19:24:45 GMT 1
Ages of the England squad: 39 - James 32 - Carragher, Lampard, Heskey 31 - Upson, Ferdinand 30 - Green, Gerrard 29 - A Cole, Terry, King, Barry, Crouch 28 - Warnock, J Cole, Wright-Phillips, Carrick 27 - Defoe 26 - Dawson 25 - Johnson 24 - Milner, Rooney 23 - Hart, Lennon I cut out all of the 30+ players, except for Ferdinand and Gerrard. I also got rid of Carrick and SWP. In their place... Keepers: Robinson (30), Carson (27) Defenders: G. Cahill (24) Midfielders: Rodwell (19), Walcott (21) Forwards: Bent (26), Agbonlahor (23) Goalie is definitely a problem position. I've bent my 30+ rule as goalkeepers generally stay in their prime for longer. Scott Loach could be worth a look in coming years. So my squad would be: GK: Hart, Robinson, Carson DR: Johnson (I would call up a second right-back for a tournament) DL: A Cole, Warnock DC: Terry, King, Ferdinand, Cahill, Dawson MR: Lennon, Walcott ML: Cole MRL: Milner MC: Gerrard, Barry, Rodwell FW: Rooney, Crouch, Defoe, Agbonlahor, Bent Formation: 4-1-3-2 Hart; Cole, Terry, King, Johnson; Barry; Cole, Gerrard, Milner; Rooney, Defoe |
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Post by Earl Purple on Jun 30, 2010 11:07:24 GMT 1
First thing I would ensure we have is a holding/defensive midfield player. I would also prefer that player to be the captain. Is Gareth Barry the player? Maybe, but not sure. We need to be able to keep possession. Not sure who I would use as the attacking midfield option. It may vary according to who we are playing.
I'd like to play Rooney but I don't think he's a big goalscorer so he'd have to partner someone who is, even if that is not a striker. He worked very well at Man U with Cristiano Ronaldo. Of course that option is not available, nor are any of Man U's other strikers but unless he can build up such a partnership I can't play him. I'd rather play a partnership that works if he is not one of them. I might try him with Agbonlahor to see how that goes. Crouch and Defoe would be an interesting choice because they play together at the same club so are used to playing alongside each other.
Right-wing: Lennon is better than Walcott, both are pacy and neither has a great final ball. I think Lennon is improving though under Harry Redknapp. In the world cup itself Milner played better in that role.
Left-wing: I think Joe Cole disappointed me a bit and I'd look for a better option. For Gerrard it's not his preferred position and not the position he plays at his club. I'd rather play someone who plays in the same position for their club.
Defence: Must be sorted and I'd go for experience over youth here. If John Terry is picked he must know that his primary role is to defend. He was nowhere to be seen against Germany.
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Post by Shireblogger on Jun 30, 2010 12:35:37 GMT 1
If John Terry is picked he must know that his primary role is to defend. He was nowhere to be seen against Germany. John Terry thinks his primary role is shop steward. He is already far too slow. His positional play is highly questionable. His attitude sucks. He makes trouble in the dressing room. He has to go. Now. |
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Post by Panda on Jun 30, 2010 12:45:36 GMT 1
I cut out all of the 30+ players, except for Ferdinand and Gerrard. I also got rid of Carrick and SWP. In their place... Keepers: Robinson (30), Carson (27) Defenders: G. Cahill (24) Midfielders: Rodwell (19), Walcott (21) Forwards: Bent (26), Agbonlahor (23) Goalie is definitely a problem position. I've bent my 30+ rule as goalkeepers generally stay in their prime for longer. Scott Loach could be worth a look in coming years. So my squad would be: GK: Hart, Robinson, Carson DR: Johnson (I would call up a second right-back for a tournament) DL: A Cole, Warnock DC: Terry, King, Ferdinand, Cahill, Dawson MR: Lennon, Walcott ML: Cole MRL: Milner MC: Gerrard, Barry, Rodwell FW: Rooney, Crouch, Defoe, Agbonlahor, Bent Formation: 4-1-3-2 Hart; Cole, Terry, King, Johnson; Barry; Cole, Gerrard, Milner; Rooney, Defoe Far too many of the current squad in there for my liking. I wouldn't pick G Johnson, King, Lennon, Walcott or Joe Cole and I would leave Rooney out of the squad for the Hungary game. It's a shame Jimmy Bullard isn't a few years younger... |
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Post by wonderwall on Jun 30, 2010 12:54:49 GMT 1
If John Terry is picked he must know that his primary role is to defend. He was nowhere to be seen against Germany. John Terry thinks his primary role is shop steward. He is already far too slow. His positional play is highly questionable. His attitude sucks. He makes trouble in the dressing room. He has to go. Now. couldnt of said it better myself he needs to go. |
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Post by Maximo Mark on Jun 30, 2010 20:55:54 GMT 1
It's a shame Jimmy Bullard isn't a few years younger... And would be more useful than Ledley King... |
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Post by wonderwall on Jul 1, 2010 8:49:55 GMT 1
according to the papers Gerrard and terry despise each other more like terry has still not got over being stripped of the captaincy.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Jul 1, 2010 19:56:57 GMT 1
If rumours are to be believed then it'll all come out very soon and John Terry possibly has good reason to be annoyed that Gerrard is captain.
Apparently, it is rumoured, that allegedly (think I've just about covered myself there) that Stevie G has been "doing a John Terry" but worse...
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Post by wonderwall on Jul 1, 2010 20:12:47 GMT 1
If rumours are to be believed then it'll all come out very soon and John Terry possibly has good reason to be annoyed that Gerrard is captain. Apparently, it is rumoured, that allegedly (think I've just about covered myself there) that Stevie G has been "doing a John Terry" but worse... yes and theres a lot more to that is going to be in newspapers there is gagging order at the moment but as soon as cappellos future is sorted it will become clear. |
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Post by suedehead on Jul 1, 2010 21:14:37 GMT 1
If rumours are to be believed then it'll all come out very soon and John Terry possibly has good reason to be annoyed that Gerrard is captain. Apparently, it is rumoured, that allegedly (think I've just about covered myself there) that Stevie G has been "doing a John Terry" but worse... Yes I heard about that at work today. Perhaps John Terry could follow Wayne Bridge's example and say he won't play for England if Gerrard stays. Bye bye John. |
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Post by Panda on Jul 1, 2010 23:24:21 GMT 1
This was the England Under 21 squad that reached the European Championship final last year, losing to Germany: Joe Hart (Man City) Martin Cranie (Portsmouth, now Coventry) Andrew Taylor (Middlesbrough) Lee Cattermole (Wigan, now Sunderland) Richard Stearman (Wolves) Nedum Onhuoa (Man City) James Milner (Aston Villa) Craig Gardner (Aston Villa, now Birmingham) Gabriel Agbonlahor (Aston Villa) Mark Noble (West Ham) Adam Johnson (Middlesbrough, now Man City) Fabrice Muamba (Bolton) Joe Lewis (Peterborough) Theo Walcott (Arsenal) Jack Rodwell (Everton) James Tomkins (West Ham) Micah Richards (Man City) Michael Mancienne (Chelsea) Kieran Gibbs (Arsenal) Andrew Driver (Hearts, has now pledged his international future to Scotland) Fraizer Campbell (Man U, now Sunderland) Scott Loach (Watford) Danny Rose (Tottenham) Last month, England won the European U17 Championship, beating Spain in the final. This was the squad: Sam Johnstone (Man U) Bruno Pilatos (Middlesbrough) Luke Garbutt (Everton) Connor Coady (Liverpool) Nathaniel Chalobah (Chelsea) Andre Wisdom (Liverpool) William Keane (Man U) George Thorne (West Brom) Benik Afobe (Arsenal) Saido Berahino (West Brom) Robert Hall (West Ham) Ben Gibson (Middlesbrough) Jack Butland (Birmingham) Tom Thorpe (Man U) Josh McEachran (Chelsea) Ross Barkley (Everton) Connor Wickham (Ipswich) Luke Williams (Middlesbrough) I forgot to mention England also reached the final of the European Under-19 Championship last year. This was the squad: Jason Steele (Middlesbrough) Kieran Trippier (Man City) Joe Mattock (Leicester, now West Brom) Dan Gosling (Everton) Kyle Walker (Sheff Utd, now Tottenham) Gavin Hoyte (Arsenal) Danny Welbeck (Man Utd) Danny Drinkwater (Man Utd) Nile Ranger (Newcastle) Nathan Delfouneso (Aston Villa) Henri Lansbury (Arsenal) Rhys Murphy (Arsenal) Declan Rudd (Norwich) Matty James (Man Utd) Andros Townsend (Tottenham) Joe Bennett (Middlesbrough) Andrew Tutte (Man City) Matthew Briggs (Fulham) |
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Post by Earl Purple on Jul 2, 2010 9:51:54 GMT 1
I would like to see improved training facilities, particularly for lower-division clubs, and grants given towards these. This would help develop home-grown talent as well as help the smaller clubs survive.
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Post by Panda on Jul 2, 2010 9:54:49 GMT 1
If rumours are to be believed then it'll all come out very soon and John Terry possibly has good reason to be annoyed that Gerrard is captain. Apparently, it is rumoured, that allegedly (think I've just about covered myself there) that Stevie G has been "doing a John Terry" but worse... Interestingly, the tabloids have addressed this today, saying the rumours aren't true but caused a lot of tension within the England camp. Though they don't mention anything about the Kris Commons-Gerrard's missus rumour... |
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Post by o on Jul 2, 2010 10:05:55 GMT 1
I would like to see improved training facilities, particularly for lower-division clubs, and grants given towards these. This would help develop home-grown talent as well as help the smaller clubs survive. Spot on! Our youth academy has closed as we no longer receive funding for it, as we've been out the league for two years. Fair enough, we should fund it ourselves, however if we choose to do that, any league team can come in and poach our best youth players and we dont get a single penny for them, plus they can do this and give us only 10 days notice. So what is the incentive to keep an academy going? Some BSP teams have kept their academies going, but not many, so each time 2 league teams drop out of the league, if after 2 years they dont get back in, that could be another 2 academies lost  |
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Post by Panda on Jul 2, 2010 10:14:09 GMT 1
If the chairmen of Football League clubs had the collective intelligence to agree to a set salary cap for each division, clubs would have more money to spend on things like training facilities and academies.
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Post by frag on Jul 16, 2010 10:50:34 GMT 1
Those revered pundits at MSN football have revealed their England team for 2014, playing a 4-1-3-1-1 formation (Christmas Tree, anyone?)
Hart
Johnson, Dawson (vice-capn), G Cahill, Gibbs
Rodwell
Walcott, Wilshere, A Johnson
D Sturridge
Rooney (capn)
Also in the squad: M Richards, Huddlestone, Milner, Smalling, F Campbell, Cattermole, Moses, Delph, Gerrard
Some notable absences from players who have been close to the current squad, e.g. Bent, Agbonlahor, Young
Meanwhile, Eric Cantona thinks that England won't qualify from a Euro 2012 group containing Wales, Bulgaria, Montenegro and Switzerland.
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Post by Panda on Jul 16, 2010 11:00:42 GMT 1
Meanwhile, Eric Cantona thinks that England won't qualify from a Euro 2012 group containing Wales, Bulgaria, Montenegro and Switzerland. If England play like they did at the World Cup, they could easily fail to finish top of the group, though you'd expect them to finish in the top 2. The playoffs could put them up against someone like Turkey, Ireland, Sweden or Serbia... |
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Post by Panda on Jul 16, 2010 11:03:18 GMT 1
Those revered pundits at MSN football have revealed their England team for 2014, playing a 4-1-3-1-1 formation (Christmas Tree, anyone?) Hart Johnson, Dawson (vice-capn), G Cahill, Gibbs Rodwell Walcott, Wilshere, A Johnson D Sturridge Rooney (capn) Also in the squad: M Richards, Huddlestone, Milner, Smalling, F Campbell, Cattermole, Moses, Delph, Gerrard Hart - yes G Johnson - no Dawson - yes Cahill - yes Gibbs - not sure Rodwell - yes Walcott - not sure Wilshere - yes A Johnson - yes Sturridge - no Rooney - yes, but not captain Richards - yes Huddlestone - yes Milner - yes Smalling - maybe Campbell - no Clattermole - yes Moses - maybe Delph - maybe Gerrard - in 4 years? no |
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Post by Elmer on Jul 16, 2010 13:54:00 GMT 1
Its crazy to suggest that Gerrard would be in the squad and not play. He either prolongs his career for 4 years which I suspect he will and he will be in. Squad players are generally up and coming players or fringe squad members.
As soon as Gerrard suspects he's one of those he'll announce his retirement from international football.
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