2014 World Cup Qualifying Thread

[Panda]

CONCACAF 2nd round, Group E:

3-1

Pos	Team	Pld	GD	Pts
1		4	+10	12
2		3	-1	3
3		4	-3	3
4		3	-6	3

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CONCACAF 2nd round, Group F:

	10-0
	2-2

Pos	Team	Pld	GD	Pts
1		4	+21	12
2		4	+15	10
3		4	-6	1
4		4	-30	0

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South America:

	1-2
	4-2
	1-1
	1-0

Venezuela's win over Argentina is their first ever, after losing all 18 of their previous encounters.

Colombia needed an injury time goal to beat Bolivia.

Paraguay needed an injury time goal to draw with Uruguay.

Pos	Team	Pld	GD	Pts
1		2	+2	4
2		2	+2	3
3		1	+2	3
4		1	+1	3
5		2	0	3
6		2	-1	3
7		2	-1	3
8		2	-2	1
9		2	-3	0

[suedehead]

A close fought Guay derby then. And congratulations to Venezuela.

[Panda]

5 more CONCACAF teams eliminated.


THE HAVEN WORLD CUP WALL

ALB

ALG

ASA

AND

ANG

ATG

ARG

ARM

AUS

AUT

AZE

BHR

BLR

BEL

BEN

BOL

BIH

BOT

BRA

BUL

BFA

BDI

CMR

CAN

CPV

CTA

CHA

CHI

CHN

COL

COM

CGO

COK

CRC

CRO

CUB

CYP

CZE

COD

DEN

DJI

ECU

EGY

SLV

ENG

EQG

ERI

EST

ETH

FRO

FIJ

FIN

FRA

GAB

GAM

GEO

GER

GHA

GRE

GRN

GUA

GUI

GNB

GUY

HAI

HON

HUN

ISL

IDN

IRN

IRQ

IRL

ISR

ITA

CIV

JAM

JPN

JOR

KAZ

KEN

KUW

LVA

LIB

LES

LBR

LBY

LIE

LTU

LUX

MKD

MAD

MWI

MLI

MLT

MRI

MEX

MDA

MNE

MAR

MOZ

NAM

NED

NCL

NZL

NIG

NGA

PRK

NIR

NOR

OMA

PAN

PNG

PAR

PER

POL

POR

QAT

ROU

RUS

RWA

SAM

SMR

STP

KSA

SCO

SEN

SRB

SEY

SLE

SIN

SVK

SVN

SOL

SOM

RSA

KOR

ESP

SKN

VIN

SUD

SUR

SWZ

SWE

SUI

TAH

TJK

TAN

THA

TOG

TGA

TRI

TUN

TUR

UGA

UKR

UAE

USA

URU

UZB

VAN

VEN

WAL

ZAM

ZIM

Eliminated:

East Timor	02/07/2011	lost to Nepal in Asian 1st round
Afghanistan	03/07/2011	lost to Palestine in Asian 1st round
Cambodia	03/07/2011	lost to Laos in Asian 1st round
Macau	03/07/2011	lost to Vietnam in Asian 1st round
Mongolia	03/07/2011	lost to Burma in Asian 1st round
Pakistan	03/07/2011	lost to Bangladesh in Asian 1st round
Sri Lanka	03/07/2011	lost to Philippines in Asian 1st round
Taiwan	03/07/2011	lost to Malaysia in Asian 1st round
Turks & Caicos Islands	09/07/2011	lost to Bahamas in CONCACAF 1st round
Anguilla	10/07/2011	lost to Dominican Republic in CONCACAF 1st round
British Virgin Islands	10/07/2011	lost to US Virgin Islands in CONCACAF 1st round
Aruba	12/07/2011	lost to St. Lucia in CONCACAF 1st round
Montserrat	17/07/2011	lost to Belize in CONCACAF 1st round
Bangladesh	28/07/2011	lost to Lebanon in Asian 2nd round
Burma	28/07/2011	lost to Oman in Asian 2nd round
Hong Kong	28/07/2011	lost to Saudi Arabia in Asian 2nd round
India	28/07/2011	lost to United Arab Emirates in Asian 2nd round
Kyrgyzstan	28/07/2011	lost to Uzbekistan in Asian 2nd round
Laos	28/07/2011	lost to China in Asian 2nd round
Malaysia	28/07/2011	lost to Singapore in Asian 2nd round
Maldives	28/07/2011	lost to Iran in Asian 2nd round
Nepal	28/07/2011	lost to Jordan in Asian 2nd round
Palestine	28/07/2011	lost to Thailand in Asian 2nd round
Philippines	28/07/2011	lost to Kuwait in Asian 2nd round
Turkmenistan	28/07/2011	lost to Indonesia in Asian 2nd round
Vietnam	28/07/2011	lost to Qatar in Asian 2nd round
Yemen	28/07/2011	lost to Iraq in Asian 2nd round
Syria	19/08/2011	disqualified after fielding ineligible player against Tajikistan in Asian 2nd round
Bahamas	22/08/2011	withdrew from CONCACAF 2nd round
Barbados	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Cayman Islands	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Curacao	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Dominican Republic	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
St. Lucia	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
US Virgin Islands	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Belize	11/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Bermuda	11/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Dominica	11/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Nicaragua	11/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Puerto Rico	11/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round

Confederation	Entries	Eliminated	Remaining
Europe	53	0	53
South America	10	0	10
CONCACAF	35	17	18
Africa	52	0	52
Asia	43	23	20
Oceania	11	0	11

204 entered, 164 remain

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Next match dates:

Europe: September 2012

South America: 11/11/11

CONCACAF: 15/10/11 (one match), then 11/11/11

Africa: 11/11/11

Asia: 11/11/11

Oceania: 22/11/11

[Maximo Mark]

South America looking close already, I'd love it if Argentina were unable to qualify, but I just can't see it with no Brazil.

[Panda]

Oct 13, 2011 12:23:33 GMT 1 Maximo Mark said:

South America looking close already, I'd love it if Argentina were unable to qualify, but I just can't see it with no Brazil.

Yeah, Argentina should be good enough to make it though I expect Uruguay to top the group.

However, it is a golden opportunity for Venezuela to qualify for the first time.


I didn't have time to do write-ups for the results I posted last night but there are full round-ups on my blog. But I will mention Bahrain had a man sent off in the first minute of their 6-0 defeat in Iran.

[Tom]

Oct 9, 2011 19:14:36 GMT 1 Panda said:

CONCACAF 2nd round, Group F:

	0-1
	0-7

Haiti and Antigua both have maximum points after three games. They still have to play each other twice. Curacao and the US Virgin Islands are both eliminated.

Pos	Team	Pld	GD	Pts
1		3	+15	9
2		3	+11	9
3		3	-6	0
4		3	-20	0

I'll be taking an interest in this group as Leigertwood played for Antigua in their game, much to my surprise. Sorry if you've already mentioned it but how many qualify from the group?

Oct 12, 2011 23:50:34 GMT 1 Panda said:

CONCACAF 2nd round, Group F:

10-0

Pos	Team	Pld	GD	Pts
1		4	+21	12
2		4	+15	10
3		4	-6	1
4		4	-30	0

Wow at that result, have Antigua got any PL players playing for them?

[Panda]

In this round it's only the group winners who go through to Round 3, joining the six automatic qualifiers (Mexico, USA, Honduras, Costa Rica, Jamaica and Cuba).

From there, it's 3 groups of 4, with the top 2 going through to the final round. The winner of this group will be in a group with the USA, Jamaica and the winner of Group E (probably Guatemala).


Other than Leigertwood, their only other English-based players are Kieran Murtagh from Cambridge United and Marc Joseph, who plays for Kendal Town in the Evo-Stik league. Most of the other players appear to be based in the USA. They are managed by ex-Mansfield player Tom Curtis.

But I'm not surprised they're doing well. They've had some solid results in recent years, and only just missed out on qualifying for this summer's CONCACAF Gold Cup (the Caribbean only gets 4 spots). My rankings had them as the highest team in this group when qualifying began.

As for the 10-0, that's less of a surprise, given the US Virgin Islands' other results. Mexico would probably be capable of putting 20 past them. I'm not quite sure why CONCACAF decided to have so many teams in the group stages this time, rather than having two knockout rounds to reduce the field to 12.

[Tom]

Cheers for that mrh, if this was a FB post it would have got a 'like' from me!

Pretty much what i thought regarding where the players are based, did wonder whether the result was more because the US Virgin Islands are so bad.

[suedehead]

With a goal difference of minus 30 from four games, I think it's safe to assume the US Virgin Islands are pretty bad.

[Paddy]

Marc Joesph played for Althricham in BSP two seasons ago.

[Panda]

Oct 15, 2011 15:23:14 GMT 1 Tom said:

Cheers for that mrh, if this was a FB post it would have got a 'like' from me!

Pretty much what i thought regarding where the players are based, did wonder whether the result was more because the US Virgin Islands are so bad.

Thanks, Tom!

A 'like' button would be a pretty cool addition. I've seen similar things on other forums.

[Panda]

One match played yesterday


CONCACAF 2nd round, Group E:

1-1

Both teams needed a win to stand any chance of catching Guatemala so the draw means both are eliminated.

Pos	Team	Pld	GD	Pts
Q		4	+10	12
2		4	-1	4
3		4	-6	4
4		4	-3	3

[Panda]

Incidentally, Antigua's 10-0 win over the US Virgin Islands is the biggest of the 2014 World Cup so far, surpassing Jordan's 9-0 win over Nepal.

With San Marino getting drawn in England's group, rather than with Germany, Spain or Holland, the 10-0 might not be beaten.

Africa might produce one or two big scorelines. Rwanda v Eritrea might produce some goals, as could Kenya v Seychelles. Sao Tome & Principe are also due to take part, having not played an international for eight years. Their last was an 8-0 loss to Libya in a WCQ.

In Oceania, American Samoa are always good for being on the end of a hammering (31-0 against Australia) but they're part of a 4-team preliminary stage this time, along with Oceania's other weakest sides, Samoa, Tonga and the Cook Islands.

[Panda]

Biggest wins in World Cups:

1930
Argentina 6-1 USA, Uruguay 6-1 Yugoslavia

1934
Qual: Spain 9-0 Portugal
Finals: Italy 7-1 USA

1938
Qual: Hungary 11-1 Greece
Finals: Sweden 8-0 Cuba

1950
Qual: England 9-2 Northern Ireland
Finals: Uruguay 8-0 Bolivia

1954
Qual: Austria 9-1 Portugal
Finals: Hungary 9-0 South Korea

1958
Qual: Finland 0-10 USSR
Finals: Czechoslovakia 6-1 Argentina

1962
Qual: Luxembourg 0-9 England
Finals: Hungary 6-1 Bulgaria

1966
Qual: Mexico 8-0 Jamaica
Finals: West Germany 5-0 Switzerland

1970
Qual: West Germany 12-0 Cyprus
Finals: Mexico 4-0 El Salvador

1974
Qual: Trinidad & Tobago 11-1 Antigua & Barbuda
Finals: Yugoslavia 9-0 Zaire

1978
Qual: Austria 9-0 Malta, East Germany 9-0 Malta
Finals: West Germany 6-0 Mexico, Argentina 6-0 Peru

1982
Qual: New Zealand 13-0 Fiji
Finals: Hungary 10-1 El Salvador

1986
Qual: Turkey 0-8 England, Qatar 8-0 Lebanon, Hong Kong 8-0 Brunei, China 8-0 Brunei, Australia 8-0 Taiwan
Finals: USSR 6-0 Hungary

1990
Qual: South Korea 9-0 Nepal
Finals: Czechoslovakia 5-1 USA, West Germany 5-1 UAE

1994
Qual: Mexico 11-0 St. Vincent
Finals: Russia 6-1 Cameroon

1998
Qual: Maldives 0-17 Iran
Finals: Spain 6-1 Bulgaria

2002
Qual: Australia 31-0 American Samoa
Finals: Germany 8-0 Saudi Arabia

2006
Qual: Bermuda 13-0 Montserrat
Finals: Argentina 6-0 Serbia & Montenegro

2010
Qual: Fiji 16-0 Tuvalu
Finals: Portugal 7-0 North Korea

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THE HAVEN WORLD CUP WALL

ALB

ALG

ASA

AND

ANG

ATG

ARG

ARM

AUS

AUT

AZE

BHR

BLR

BEL

BEN

BOL

BIH

BOT

BRA

BUL

BFA

BDI

CMR

CAN

CPV

CTA

CHA

CHI

CHN

COL

COM

CGO

COK

CRC

CRO

CUB

CYP

CZE

COD

DEN

DJI

ECU

EGY

SLV

ENG

EQG

ERI

EST

ETH

FRO

FIJ

FIN

FRA

GAB

GAM

GEO

GER

GHA

GRE

GUA

GUI

GNB

GUY

HAI

HON

HUN

ISL

IDN

IRN

IRQ

IRL

ISR

ITA

CIV

JAM

JPN

JOR

KAZ

KEN

KUW

LVA

LIB

LES

LBR

LBY

LIE

LTU

LUX

MKD

MAD

MWI

MLI

MLT

MRI

MEX

MDA

MNE

MAR

MOZ

NAM

NED

NCL

NZL

NIG

NGA

PRK

NIR

NOR

OMA

PAN

PNG

PAR

PER

POL

POR

QAT

ROU

RUS

RWA

SAM

SMR

STP

KSA

SCO

SEN

SRB

SEY

SLE

SIN

SVK

SVN

SOL

SOM

RSA

KOR

ESP

SKN

SUD

SUR

SWZ

SWE

SUI

TAH

TJK

TAN

THA

TOG

TGA

TRI

TUN

TUR

UGA

UKR

UAE

USA

URU

UZB

VAN

VEN

WAL

ZAM

ZIM

Eliminated:

East Timor	02/07/2011	lost to Nepal in Asian 1st round
Afghanistan	03/07/2011	lost to Palestine in Asian 1st round
Cambodia	03/07/2011	lost to Laos in Asian 1st round
Macau	03/07/2011	lost to Vietnam in Asian 1st round
Mongolia	03/07/2011	lost to Burma in Asian 1st round
Pakistan	03/07/2011	lost to Bangladesh in Asian 1st round
Sri Lanka	03/07/2011	lost to Philippines in Asian 1st round
Taiwan	03/07/2011	lost to Malaysia in Asian 1st round
Turks & Caicos Islands	09/07/2011	lost to Bahamas in CONCACAF 1st round
Anguilla	10/07/2011	lost to Dominican Republic in CONCACAF 1st round
British Virgin Islands	10/07/2011	lost to US Virgin Islands in CONCACAF 1st round
Aruba	12/07/2011	lost to St. Lucia in CONCACAF 1st round
Montserrat	17/07/2011	lost to Belize in CONCACAF 1st round
Bangladesh	28/07/2011	lost to Lebanon in Asian 2nd round
Burma	28/07/2011	lost to Oman in Asian 2nd round
Hong Kong	28/07/2011	lost to Saudi Arabia in Asian 2nd round
India	28/07/2011	lost to United Arab Emirates in Asian 2nd round
Kyrgyzstan	28/07/2011	lost to Uzbekistan in Asian 2nd round
Laos	28/07/2011	lost to China in Asian 2nd round
Malaysia	28/07/2011	lost to Singapore in Asian 2nd round
Maldives	28/07/2011	lost to Iran in Asian 2nd round
Nepal	28/07/2011	lost to Jordan in Asian 2nd round
Palestine	28/07/2011	lost to Thailand in Asian 2nd round
Philippines	28/07/2011	lost to Kuwait in Asian 2nd round
Turkmenistan	28/07/2011	lost to Indonesia in Asian 2nd round
Vietnam	28/07/2011	lost to Qatar in Asian 2nd round
Yemen	28/07/2011	lost to Iraq in Asian 2nd round
Syria	19/08/2011	disqualified after fielding ineligible player against Tajikistan in Asian 2nd round
Bahamas	22/08/2011	withdrew from CONCACAF 2nd round
Barbados	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Cayman Islands	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Curacao	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Dominican Republic	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
St. Lucia	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
US Virgin Islands	07/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Belize	11/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Bermuda	11/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Dominica	11/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Nicaragua	11/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Puerto Rico	11/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
Grenada	15/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round
St. Vincent & Grenadines	15/10/2011	eliminated in CONCACAF 2nd round

Confederation	Entries	Eliminated	Remaining
Europe	53	0	53
South America	10	0	10
CONCACAF	35	19	16
Africa	52	0	52
Asia	43	23	20
Oceania	11	0	11

204 entered, 162 remain

[Tom]

Oct 16, 2011 9:16:53 GMT 1 Panda said:

Oct 15, 2011 15:23:14 GMT 1 Tom said:

Cheers for that mrh, if this was a FB post it would have got a 'like' from me!

Pretty much what i thought regarding where the players are based, did wonder whether the result was more because the US Virgin Islands are so bad.

Thanks, Tom!

A 'like' button would be a pretty cool addition. I've seen similar things on other forums.

Agree with that. I also noticed a 'like' button on a forum I regularly browse the other day and it seemed to be a feature that anyone can use, not just members.

[Panda]

Updated projected qualifiers. Changes from previous projections are in bold

MJ RANKINGS (next update)
HOSTS: Brazil
EUROPE (group winners): Croatia, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Greece, England, Spain
EUROPE (playoff winners): Sweden, France, Russia, Serbia
SOUTH AMERICA: Uruguay, Chile, Argentina, Paraguay
CONCACAF: Panama, Mexico, USA
AFRICA: Ghana, Ivory Coast, Egypt, South Africa, Nigeria
ASIA: Japan, Australia, Iran, South Korea
PLAYOFFS: China, Jamaica
EUROPE (playoff losers): Denmark, Hungary, Slovenia, Slovakia
EUROPE (missing playoffs): Poland
AFRICA (losing in final round): Uganda, Cameroon, Algeria, Tunisia, Burkina Faso
PLAYOFFS (losers): Venezuela, New Zealand

FIFA (19/10/11)
HOSTS: Brazil
EUROPE (group winners): Croatia, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, Greece, England, Spain
EUROPE (playoff winners): Denmark, Russia, Sweden, France
SOUTH AMERICA: Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, Paraguay
CONCACAF: Mexico, USA, Jamaica
AFRICA: Ivory Coast, Egypt, Ghana, Algeria, Senegal
ASIA: Japan, Australia, South Korea, Iran
PLAYOFFS: Colombia, Panama
EUROPE (playoff losers): Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia, Norway, Turkey
EUROPE (missing playoffs): Montenegro
AFRICA (losing in final round): Nigeria, Cameroon, South Africa, Burkina Faso, Tunisia
PLAYOFFS (losers): China, New Zealand

ELO RATINGS (15/10/11)
HOSTS: Brazil
EUROPE (group winners): Croatia, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Greece, England, Spain
EUROPE (playoff winners): Sweden, France, Russia, Denmark
SOUTH AMERICA: Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, Colombia
CONCACAF: Mexico, USA, Panama
AFRICA: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Egypt, Nigeria, Cameroon
ASIA: Australia, Japan, South Korea, Iran
PLAYOFFS: Paraguay, Costa Rica
EUROPE (playoff losers): Turkey, Ukraine, Switzerland, Serbia
EUROPE (missing playoffs): Bosnia-Herzegovina
AFRICA (losing in final round): Senegal, South Africa, Tunisia, Burkina Faso, Mali
PLAYOFFS (losers): China, New Zealand

ROON BA (23/10/11) (not in previous update)
HOSTS: Brazil
EUROPE (group winners): Croatia, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Greece, England, Spain
EUROPE (playoff winners): Sweden, Denmark, France, Russia
SOUTH AMERICA: Uruguay, Chile, Argentina, Colombia
CONCACAF: Mexico, USA, Panama
AFRICA: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Senegal, Egypt, Nigeria
ASIA: Australia, Japan, South Korea, Iran
PLAYOFFS: Paraguay, Costa Rica
EUROPE (playoff losers): Switzerland, Poland, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Belgium
EUROPE (missing playoffs): Turkey
AFRICA (losing in final round): Cameroon, South Africa, Burkina Faso, Tunisia, Mali
PLAYOFFS (losers): Jordan, New Zealand

ZIAIAN RANKINGS (19/10/11)
HOSTS: Brazil
EUROPE (group winners): Croatia, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, Greece, England, Spain
EUROPE (playoff winners): Sweden, Denmark, France, Russia
SOUTH AMERICA: Uruguay, Chile, Argentina, Paraguay
CONCACAF: Mexico, USA, Panama
AFRICA: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Egypt
ASIA: Japan, Australia, South Korea, Iran
PLAYOFFS: Colombia, Honduras
EUROPE (playoff losers): Bosnia-Herzegovina, Poland, Serbia, Norway
EUROPE (missing playoffs): Hungary
AFRICA (losing in final round): Senegal, South Africa, Burkina Faso, Tunisia, Mali
PLAYOFFS (losers): Uzbekistan, New Zealand

ESPN SOCCER POWER INDEX (23/10/11)
HOSTS: Brazil
EUROPE (group winners): Croatia, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Bosnia-Herzegovina, England, Spain
EUROPE (playoff winners): Sweden, France, Russia, Czech Republic
SOUTH AMERICA: Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Ecuador
CONCACAF: Mexico, Costa Rica, USA
AFRICA: Ivory Coast, Egypt, Ghana, Cameroon, Nigeria
ASIA: Japan, South Korea, Australia, Iran
PLAYOFFS: Colombia, Honduras
EUROPE (playoff losers): Ukraine, Serbia, Turkey, Switzerland
EUROPE (missing playoffs): Greece
AFRICA (losing in final round): Senegal, South Africa, Tunisia, Gabon, Mali
PLAYOFFS (losers): China, New Zealand



Number of ranking systems projecting each team to qualify:

6 - Croatia, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Portugal, England, Spain, Sweden, France, Russia, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, Mexico, USA, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Egypt, Japan, Australia, Iran, South Korea

5 - Greece, Paraguay, Panama, Nigeria, Colombia

4 - Norway, Denmark

3 - Cameroon, Costa Rica

2 - Jamaica, Senegal, Switzerland, Honduras

1 - Serbia, South Africa, China, Algeria, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Czech Republic, Ecuador