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Post by greendemon on Apr 10, 2011 13:44:20 GMT 1
Wonder if theres ever been a grand national when no one finished? apparently not - in 1928, only 2 horses finished, which is the lowest number ever. i haven't found any statistics for how many horses died. unsurprisingly, not many people in the racing business seem to keep tabs on statistics like these. this website does, but only for the past few years: www.horsedeathwatch.com/
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Post by paulgilb on Apr 10, 2011 15:46:16 GMT 1
2001 only saw 4 finishers - and 2 of them were re-mounted.
1993 technically had no finishers - 7 horses completed the course (led by Esha Ness), but it didn't count as there had been a false start.
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Post by Paddy on Apr 10, 2011 17:11:06 GMT 1
2001 only saw 4 finishers - and 2 of them were re-mounted. 1993 technically had no finishers - 7 horses completed the course (led by Esha Ness), but it didn't count as there had been a false start. 2001 was very wet wasn't it? 1993 from what I've seen was very farcical
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Post by greendemon on Apr 10, 2011 18:23:23 GMT 1
oh i remember 2001; it was ridiculously wet! apparently no-one was injured, though, because the ground was basically mud. dry, hard conditions like yesterday are worse.
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Post by Panda on Apr 10, 2011 18:48:24 GMT 1
2001 only saw 4 finishers - and 2 of them were re-mounted. 1993 technically had no finishers - 7 horses completed the course (led by Esha Ness), but it didn't count as there had been a false start. 2001 was very wet wasn't it? 1993 from what I've seen was very farcical 2001 was a mudbath, which although resulting in more fallers, meant no injuries or fatalities because of the very soft ground. The Aintree staff tried their best to make the ground softer for yesterday's race but the hot temperatues made it very difficult. Another factor yesterday was the speed. As is often the case, they went out far too fast down that opening stretch of fences.
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Post by Panda on Apr 10, 2011 18:52:51 GMT 1
Just been doing some research. Yesterday's fatalities were 8th and 9th in the last 10 years. However, they were the first to die as a direct result of falls during the race itself since 2003.
Since '03, three horses died as a result of falls or accidents that happened while they were running loose and one collapsed at the end of the race.
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Post by Tom on Apr 11, 2011 15:59:58 GMT 1
Ornais died very quickly but Dooneys gate didn't. Wonder if theres ever been a grand national when no one finished? I can't say I like horse racing, but just watching this on iplayer. Saying freakishly hot weather isn't quite true because GN is always either very wet or very warm in my memory. Sunny perhaps, but not this hot. Having been out walking for a few hours earlier today, I can say first hand it was freakishly hot. It felt like June... Going OT it seems the seasons are coming 2 months early atm. I browse a weather forum from time to time and it was mentioned on there that if this weather was repeated in June it would be 33-35C... It wouldn't surprise me if its quite a wet summer, this nice weather can't last forever anyway, though it does increase the likelihood of it staying dry for the football i attend for the rest of the season, and hopefully Wembley in June. Maybe it will mean they have to use the roof a bit more at Wimbledon! Back on topic, used to be into the GN in my teens, and maybe before that to a degree too, but can't remember now the last time i watched it. There may have been times when i've been at football (that was the case in 2007) but for whatever reason watching it just doesn't appeal as much as it once did.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Apr 11, 2011 16:07:17 GMT 1
2001 was madness, i had one of the horses that fell and got back up to still placed lol. papillon i think it was, it won for me the year before aswel. so basically all the campaigning and protests to make the fences smaller by animal rights people among other busy bodies that know nothing about the sport has only made the course faster and more dangerous with more fatalities as a result.
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Post by greendemon on Apr 12, 2011 19:06:35 GMT 1
i'm surprised by the amount of outcry the two deaths this year seem to have generated. not being funny, but horses die at aintree every year and i can't ever remember more than a few anti-animal cruelty activists being upset by it.
i suspect the poor BBC coverage - them referring to the dead horses as 'obstacles' when everyone who was watching would have known what they were, and not mentioning the fatalities in their news coverage - and the way the horses' bodies were left lying on the course really drew attention to it.
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