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Post by Panda on Mar 5, 2012 0:19:01 GMT 1
You can get some good value through accumulators in snooker. I won a decent amount a couple of years ago when I picked three unseeded players to win their first round matches at the Crucible and all came good. Dott and Mark Davis were two of them - can't remember who the other was. I forgot to mention it was good value for Stephen Lee, the way he is playing !! I assumed that! I can't see any of the others at 80/1 even getting to the quarters. |
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Post by suedehead on Mar 5, 2012 0:26:09 GMT 1
I think 80/1 is a great value bet if you could do it on an exchange then lay it back if he gets through a couple of rounds convincingly !! I could pretend to understand that but I won't  |
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Post by Paddy on Mar 5, 2012 0:41:27 GMT 1
We need a betting thread to explain all the terms...
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Post by Elmer on Mar 5, 2012 22:09:08 GMT 1
In simplistic terms, odds of 2/1 convert to a decimal 3.0 to make it easy to understand. Therefore you put one pound on the win at those odds you will win two and get your one pound stake back so will have three pound in your pocket.
On betting exchanges such as bet fair you have the ability of backing a competitor at 3.0 then if their price drops to evens or 2.0 you can lay the best which is what bookies do all the time to offset potential huge losses.
Therefore bet one pound at 3.0 and lay one pound at 2.0 you are even if the person loses but up a pound if they win,
Let's increase the bet. 10 pounds at 5.0 nets you £50 including the stack. If the price drops to 2/1 or 3.0 you can lay £15 at that price.
If they win you win 50 but lose 45 due to the layer bet. Therefore a PROFIT of £5
If they lose you lose your 10 pound stake but win 15 for your layed bet. Therefore a PROFIT of £5.
I've made quite a bit of money on Betfair exchanges sports and the games playing around with figures like this.
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Post by Elmer on Mar 5, 2012 22:10:52 GMT 1
I found Stephen Lee at 75 on Betfair with £18 attached. So I bet that amount. I hope he gets to the quarters then I'll lay it back !!
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Post by suedehead on Mar 6, 2012 20:18:30 GMT 1
In simplistic terms, odds of 2/1 convert to a decimal 3.0 to make it easy to understand. Therefore you put one pound on the win at those odds you will win two and get your one pound stake back so will have three pound in your pocket. On betting exchanges such as bet fair you have the ability of backing a competitor at 3.0 then if their price drops to evens or 2.0 you can lay the best which is what bookies do all the time to offset potential huge losses. Therefore bet one pound at 3.0 and lay one pound at 2.0 you are even if the person loses but up a pound if they win, Let's increase the bet. 10 pounds at 5.0 nets you £50 including the stack. If the price drops to 2/1 or 3.0 you can lay £15 at that price. If they win you win 50 but lose 45 due to the layer bet. Therefore a PROFIT of £5 If they lose you lose your 10 pound stake but win 15 for your layed bet. Therefore a PROFIT of £5. I've made quite a bit of money on Betfair exchanges sports and the games playing around with figures like this. Thanks for that! I never had a problem understanding the concept of 2/1 whereas 3.0 makes less sense to me |
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Post by Panda on Mar 15, 2012 18:40:44 GMT 1
PTC Finals draw and results:
1st round:
Xiao Guodong 4-2 Dominic Dale
John Higgins 3-4 Jamie Jones
Ben Woollaston 2-4 Ding Junhui
Martin Gould 1-4 Stephen Lee
Barry Hawkins 3-4 Jack Lisowski
Joe Perry 4-0 Fergal O'Brien
Tom Ford 1-4 Mark Davis
Ricky Walden 4-0 Matthew Stevens
2nd round:
Judd Trump v Xiao Guodong
Andrew Higginson v Jamie Jones
Mark Selby v Ding Junhui
Michael Holt v Stephen Lee
Neil Robertson v Jack Lisowski
Graeme Dott v Joe Perry
Stephen Maguire v Mark Davis
Ronnie O'Sullivan v Ricky Walden
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Post by Panda on Mar 16, 2012 13:51:22 GMT 1
Ronnie has pulled out of the PTC finals...
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Post by Tom on Mar 17, 2012 13:02:21 GMT 1
Ronnie has pulled out of the PTC finals... He's got glandular fever and it seems according to his manager his career is now under threat... |
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Post by ligerdog7 on Mar 19, 2012 20:55:11 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Mar 19, 2012 21:22:50 GMT 1
PTC Finals results:
2nd round:
Judd Trump 2-4 Xiao Guodong
Andrew Higginson 4-3 Jamie Jones
Mark Selby 4-1 Ding Junhui
Michael Holt 1-4 Stephen Lee
Neil Robertson 4-1 Jack Lisowski
Graeme Dott 2-4 Joe Perry
Stephen Maguire 4-2 Mark Davis
Ricky Walden w/o Ronnie O'Sullivan
Quarter-finals:
Xiao Guodong 1-4 Andrew Higginson
Mark Selby 0-4 Stephen Lee
Neil Robertson 4-1 Joe Perry
Stephen Maguire 4-3 Ricky Walden
Semi-finals:
Andrew Higginson 2-4 Stephen Lee
Neil Robertson 4-0 Stephen Maguire
Final:
Stephen Lee 4-0 Neil Robertson
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Post by Elmer on Mar 19, 2012 21:35:11 GMT 1
Can't understand why Ronnie didn't go to Galway ?? He deffo won't go to China but win probably play in the World Champs. Looks like he may be out the top 16 now at the end of the season !!
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Post by ligerdog7 on Mar 19, 2012 21:50:22 GMT 1
vhat ruffyes is w/0 w/o  vear ruffyes galurway hooo heyyy damm skippyy wuffyy ruffyyy wwuuzuppppppppppppppppppppppppppp   ;D |
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Post by Panda on Mar 21, 2012 0:24:25 GMT 1
vhat ruffyes is w/0 w/o vear ruffyes galurway hooo heyyy damm skippyy wuffyy ruffyyy wwuuzuppppppppppppppppppppppppppp ;D It stands for 'walkover'. It means the other player didn't turn up for the match. Galway is in Ireland. |
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Post by ligerdog7 on Mar 21, 2012 23:44:34 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Mar 21, 2012 23:47:25 GMT 1
Even though he told them he'd withdrawn, it still appears as a walkover on the results. It's still a match that was meant to be played and wasn't because one player pulled out. |
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Post by ligerdog7 on Mar 22, 2012 0:03:53 GMT 1
Even though he told them he'd withdrawn, it still appears as a walkover on the results. It's still a match that was meant to be played and wasn't because one player pulled out. kool he really needs get bak mood frame mind playing but did say dont do pe2 ever calld thing long dont duck out more be ok heyy hooo yoo mooooooooooooooo wuffyy ruffyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wuzupppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp ;D |
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Post by Panda on Mar 25, 2012 21:49:43 GMT 1
The China Open starts tomorrow.
Wild card round:
Jimmy White v Omar Alkojah
Mark King v Zhu Yinghui
Fergal O'Brien v Jin Long
Michael Holt v Li Hang
Ben Woollaston v Chen Feilong
Jamie Jones v Lu Ning
Peter Ebdon v Lu Haotian
Rory McLeod v Zhou Yuelong
1st round:
Judd Trump v White/Alkojah
Stuart Bingham v Joe Perry
Stephen Lee v Tom Ford
Graeme Dott v King/Zhu
Stephen Maguire v Barry Hawkins
Mark Allen v Ricky Walden
Ronnie O'Sullivan v Marcus Campbell
Mark Williams v O'Brien/Jin
Mark Selby v Holt/Li
Ding Junhui v Woollaston/Chen
Ali Carter v Dominic Dale
Shaun Murphy v Jones/Lu Ning
Neil Robertson v Jamie Cope
Martin Gould v Stephen Hendry
Matthew Stevens v Ebdon/Lu Haotian
John Higgins v McLeod/Zhou
In other news, the deadline for entering Q School passed on Friday. This year, the 12 qualifiers will get a two-year tour card. Also, there will be a new Q School ranking list which will be used to top up any Main Tour events that don't get the full number of entries.
Also, World Snooker has announced how the remaining Tour places will be taken. The nominations for the home nations have been scrapped in favour of more international nominations, including Africa and the Americas.
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Post by Panda on Mar 28, 2012 19:02:04 GMT 1
China Open results:
Wild card round:
Jimmy White 5-3 Omar Alkojah
Mark King 5-3 Zhu Yinghui
Fergal O'Brien 4-5 Jin Long
Michael Holt 3-5 Li Hang
Ben Woollaston 5-1 Chen Feilong
Jamie Jones 3-5 Lu Ning
Peter Ebdon 5-2 Lu Haotian
Rory McLeod 5-0 Zhou Yuelong
1st round:
Judd Trump 5-3 Jimmy White
Stuart Bingham 5-4 Joe Perry
Stephen Lee 5-1 Tom Ford
Graeme Dott 5-2 Mark King
Stephen Maguire 5-1 Barry Hawkins
Mark Allen 2-5 Ricky Walden
Ronnie O'Sullivan 5-4 Marcus Campbell
Mark Williams 5-1 Jin Long
Mark Selby 5-0 Li Hang
Ding Junhui 5-4 Ben Woollaston (Ding was 4-0 down)
Ali Carter 5-4 Dominic Dale
Shaun Murphy 2-5 Lu Ning (first time this season that Murphy has failed to reach the QFs of a ranking event)
Neil Robertson 5-4 Jamie Cope
Martin Gould 4-5 Stephen Hendry
Matthew Stevens 3-5 Peter Ebdon
John Higgins 5-1 Rory McLeod
2nd round:
Judd Trump v Stuart Bingham
Stephen Lee v Graeme Dott
Stephen Maguire v Ricky Walden
Ronnie O'Sullivan v Mark Williams
Mark Selby v Ding Junhui
Ali Carter v Lu Ning
Neil Robertson v Stephen Hendry
Peter Ebdon v John Higgins
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