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Post by Panda on Aug 5, 2012 11:42:49 GMT 1
So anyone still think we won't match our gold medal tally from Beijing? From the eternal pessimist - I don't think it's nailed yet. Medals are going to be harder to come by now especially in the Athletics. Perhaps Mo Farah in the 5000m. Surely a Gold from Percy & Williams today and a couple more from the Cycling. I think we'll get at least two in boxing. We have some good chances in the canoe sprints. I think we'll get at least two more in cycling, possibly four or five. We're going very well in the dressage so that could be a couple more. We have the men's triathlon, Sarah Stevenson in the taekwondo. That's at least 14 realistic gold medal chances and that's not even counting today's events.
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Post by Panda on Aug 5, 2012 11:47:58 GMT 1
Christine Ohoruogu look very strong at the finish of her 400m yesterday but on form it's hard to see her getting a medal let alone a Gold but who knows how the crowd might lift her? I think it's more down to how the others run. There are half a dozen women in the race who are faster than her but Ohuruogu won her titles by producing her best in the big race when her rivals didn't and she'll need a similar scenario to get a medal.
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Post by Johnny on Aug 5, 2012 12:37:57 GMT 1
As for further GB gold medals...2 at most in athletics, at least a couple in cycling, maybe one in gymnastics. Hopefully one in tennis, but probably not. Likewise with sailing.
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Post by Jordan on Aug 5, 2012 12:39:28 GMT 1
Well we're guaranteed at least two silvers in tennis, or do you mean golds?
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Post by greendemon on Aug 5, 2012 12:41:01 GMT 1
my prediction for the tennis is silver in the men's singles and gold in the mixed doubles.
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Post by Jordan on Aug 5, 2012 12:42:15 GMT 1
my prediction for the tennis is silver in the men's singles and gold in the mixed doubles. I was thinking along the same lines, but I think luck would have to be on their side in the mixed doubles. The last match was quite ropy to say the least.
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Post by greendemon on Aug 5, 2012 12:48:38 GMT 1
i only caught the end of it, and in fairness i haven't seen the belorussian pair play. but if (as i suspect) murray loses his gold medal match, i think he'll come out really strong and that could help them gain an early advantage. i'd love him to beat federer on centre court at the second time of asking but i just fear that those two doubles matches yesterday will have tired him out. similarly, if his singles match goes on to four or five sets, that won't help his doubles match.
i've got everything crossed that he can come away with at least one gold. he seems to be a lot more relaxed going into these two matches than he was at wimbledon, and after the athletics gold bonanza last night no-one has been hyping him up, so he could turn that to his advantage.
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Post by Paul on Aug 5, 2012 12:50:52 GMT 1
As Rub said earlier the Belarussian pair are extremely strong. Miryini is a doubles legend, and Azarenka is one of the top women's players. I can't see Robson and Murray offer much of a challenge tbh. They have been extremely lucky to make it to the final.
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Post by Tom on Aug 5, 2012 13:05:18 GMT 1
Quick summary of the week's tennis. Sat - Watson/Robson doubles lost 1-6 6-4 6-3. Disappointing as they were a set and 4-2 up and it appears had breakpoints in a long 7th game of that 2nd set. From reading an account from someone who was there they lost belief after that. Robson didn’t hold serve for the rest of the match, apparently not because she served badly but because it wasn’t a typical doubles match with plenty of baseline rallies between server and receiver, and the Germans came out on top in those exchanges. Even if they had won though they would have faced the Williams sisters in the next round… Murray brothers lost 5-7 7-6 (8-6) 7-5 - looked a 50/50 match when the draw came out and so it proved. Bit disappointing they lost, can't say I was surprised that Jamie was the weak link though, poor serving which got punished. Fleming/Hutchins lost 7-5 6-3 to Gasquet/Benneateau - Not televised, disappointing at the time but doesn't seem that bad now as the French pair won the bronze medal yesterday. Bally/Keothavong didn't play till Monday lost 6-3 6-1. Not sure if it was televised but didn't see it anyway, no surprise. In the women's singles Laura - amazing 1st rd straight sets win, never seen her play so well, played well against Sharapova 2nd rd in losing by, i think, the exact same margin she lost to her at Wimbledon last year. Heather - 6-2 6-2 win in 1st round an excellent scoreline, bit disappointing against Kirilenko but still a really good Olympics overall backing up her performance at the Wimbledon Championships. I was really impressed by Kirilenko though and on that performance thought she could be an outside bet for a medal, and that wasn't a bad guess as she finished 4th yesterday. Keothavong - Took a set off Wozniacki, it was a good performance and in the early stages she looked inspired by playing in a home Olympics. Bally - pretty good in her 1st round, played really well from what I saw of her 2nd round against Ivanovic. Certainly the 2nd set was the best i've seen her play. Sadly that may well have been the last time I saw her play as it was announced in the evening of Day 1 after her 1st round win that she'll be having an operation on one or both her ankles which will keep her out for 6 months and she's not sure whether she will return. Personally I doubt it, she gets a lot of enjoyment from working with the kids in her academy (this became evident when talking about it in a French Open studio interview with John Inverdale on the 1st day), and also given where her ranking will be by the time she's ready to return. Andrew Castle certainly suggested that may be it for her when seeing her tears at the end of the match. Overall of the 4 women, Laura was most impressive, she was excellent, which doesn't surprise me as I consider her to be the most talented on grass of all of them. Murray saw the closing stages of his 1st rd, 3rd round and semi-final matches, looked in good form in the 1st, got the job done in the 3rd, but was truly stunning against Djokovic both in the performance from what I saw and the overall scoreline. Mixed doubles - Murray/Robson pretty good performance in the 1st round against the Czechs of Hradecka and Stepanek, QF yesterday against Hewitt/Stosur i felt was 50/50, saw the closing stages of the match tie-break of this and it certainly was. Then the SF against Lisicki/Kas looked on paper a match too far, especially as the Germans were the fresher pair, but they were absolutely stunning with Murray being the better player (60/40 in his favour for me - whilst Robson was the best player with her groundstrokes, Murray was strong on serve whilst Robson struggled). Again they're the underdogs for the final, playing the top seeds Mirnyi/Azarenka will be a seriously tough proposition! As for the mens final Murray-Federer, it really depends on the weather, it looks 50/50 with the support that Murray will get, but if the roof is closed I expect Fed to win.
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Post by Mart!n on Aug 5, 2012 13:15:26 GMT 1
GB team are in the lead in the Sailing
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Post by Tom on Aug 5, 2012 13:16:39 GMT 1
i only caught the end of it, and in fairness i haven't seen the belorussian pair play. but if (as i suspect) murray loses his gold medal match, i think he'll come out really strong and that could help them gain an early advantage. i'd love him to beat federer on centre court at the second time of asking but i just fear that those two doubles matches yesterday will have tired him out. similarly, if his singles match goes on to four or five sets, that won't help his doubles match. i've got everything crossed that he can come away with at least one gold. he seems to be a lot more relaxed going into these two matches than he was at wimbledon, and after the athletics gold bonanza last night no-one has been hyping him up, so he could turn that to his advantage. I know what you mean about his doubles yesterday affecting him, but the amount of time that Fed and Murray have spent on court in the last 48 hours is very similar, 4hr 26 for Fed, 4hr 48 for Murray, so Murray isn't at much of disadvantage there imo. I think he thrives on these kinds of atmospheres. Don't know whether it's still the case but he did say that the US Open was his favourite Slam as he just loved the atmosphere of the place, and he rises to the occasion in Davis Cup ties. Speaking of which, this last week in the tennis a part of me has wished they would go back to playing Davis Cup ties at Wimbledon but unless GB are involved in a promotion match to the World Group I can't really see it happening. And even then I get the feeling that it may be more likely to happen for a World Group match. Quick comment on yesterday, London 2012 is a once-in-a-lifetime experience, and if anything encapsulated that it was yesterday. The best 24 hours of sport in my lifetime, the like of which I doubt we'll ever see again. It made me lost for words last night, and that doesn't happen very often!
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Post by Mart!n on Aug 5, 2012 13:37:44 GMT 1
GB team in the sailing finished 8th in their last race, gives them Silver Medal.
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Post by Panda on Aug 5, 2012 13:40:57 GMT 1
Percy and Simpson have fallen into the same trap I mentioned for Ben Ainslie last night, battling with the 2nd placed boat and letting the 3rd placed boat through to snatch gold...
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Post by Johnny on Aug 5, 2012 13:41:34 GMT 1
my prediction for the tennis is silver in the men's singles and gold in the mixed doubles. Two silvers? Would Murray bounce back after another Federer defeat..and Laura Robson was the weak link in their last match.
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Post by Panda on Aug 5, 2012 13:45:30 GMT 1
GB's medal-winning sports in post-war Olympics:
1948 3 gold medals in 2 sports: Rowing (x2) Sailing
23 medals in 9 sports: Rowing (x3) Sailing Athletics (x7) Boxing (x2) Cycling (x5) Hockey Weightlifting (x2) Equestrian Swimming
1952 1 gold medal: Equestrian
11 medals in 7 sports: Equestrian Athletics (x5) Sailing Cycling Swimming Wrestling Hockey
1956 6 gold medals in 5 sports: Athletics Boxing (x2) Equestrian Fencing Swimming
24 medals in 7 sports: Athletics (x7) Boxing (x5) Equestrian (x3) Fencing Swimming (x2) Cycling (x3) Sailing (x3)
1960 2 gold medals in 2 sports: Athletics Swimming
20 medals in 7 sports: Athletics (x8) Swimming (x3) Fencing (x2) Boxing (x3) Diving (x2) Equestrian Weightlifting
1964 4 gold medals in 1 sport: Athletics (x4)
18 medals in 7 sports: Athletics (x12) Fencing Rowing Swimming Weightlifting Sailing Equestrian
1968 5 gold medals in 5 sports: Athletics Boxing Equestrian Shooting Sailing
13 medals in 6 sports: Athletics (x4) Boxing Equestrian (x4) Shooting Sailing (x2) Swimming
1972 4 gold medals in 3 sports: Athletics Equestrian (x2) Sailing
18 medals in 8 sports: Athletics (x4) Equestrian (x3) Sailing (x2) Judo (x3) Swimming Boxing (x3) Cycling Shooting
1976 3 golds in 3 sports: Sailing Modern Pentathlon Swimming
13 medals in 8 sports: Sailing (x2) Modern Pentathlon Swimming (x3) Judo (x2) Rowing (x2) Athletics Boxing Cycling
1980 5 golds in 2 sports: Athletics (x4) Swimming
21 medals in 5 sports: Athletics (x10) Swimming (x5) Judo (x2) Rowing (x3) Boxing
1984 5 golds in 3 sports: Athletics (x3) Rowing Shooting
37 medals in 11 sports: Athletics (x16) Rowing Shooting (x4) Equestrian (x3) Judo (x3) Swimming (x5) Boxing Hockey Weightlifting Wrestling Sailing
1988 5 golds in 5 sports: Hockey Shooting Sailing Swimming Rowing
24 medals in 11 sports: Hockey Shooting (x2) Sailing Swimming (x3) Rowing (x2) Athletics (x8) Equestrian (x3) Archery Boxing Judo Modern Pentathlon
1992 5 golds in 3 sports: Athletics (x2) Cycling Rowing (x2)
20 medals in 10 sports: Athletics (x6) Cycling Rowing (x2) Canoeing Judo (x4) Archery (x2) Boxing Hockey Swimming Sailing
1996 1 gold: Rowing
15 medals in 6 sports: Rowing (x2) Athletics (x6) Sailing (x2) Tennis Cycling (x2) Swimming (x2)
2000 11 golds in 7 sports: Athletics (x2) Boxing Cycling Modern Pentathlon Rowing (x2) Sailing (x3) Shooting
28 medals in 11 sports: Athletics (x6) Boxing Cycling (x4) Modern Pentathlon (x2) Rowing (x3) Sailing (x5) Shooting (x2) Canoeing (x2) Equestrian Judo Badminton
2004 9 golds in 5 sports: Athletics (x3) Cycling (x2) Equestrian Rowing Sailing (x2)
30 medals in 12 sports: Athletics (x4) Cycling (x4) Equestrian (x3) Rowing (x4) Sailing (x5) Badminton Boxing Canoeing (x3) Diving Archery Modern Pentathlon Swimming (x2)
2008 19 golds in 7 sports: Cycling (x8) Swimming (x2) Rowing (x2) Sailing (x4) Athletics Canoeing Boxing
47 medals in 11 sports: Cycling (x14) Swimming (x6) Rowing (x6) Sailing (x6) Athletics (x4) Canoeing (x3) Boxing (x3) Modern Pentathlon Equestrian (x2) Gymnastics Taekwondo
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Post by vastar iner on Aug 5, 2012 13:45:31 GMT 1
Percy and Simpson have fallen into the same trap I mentioned for Ben Ainslie last night, battling with the 2nd placed boat and letting the 3rd placed boat through to snatch gold... Not that you'd know it from the "excellent" broadcaster, which managed to miss the ending entirely by showing anything BUT the finish. How difficult is it when there are a bunch of boats coming across together to just show an overhead shot?
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Post by Arcadia on Aug 5, 2012 13:58:26 GMT 1
The BBC was a bit naughty in trying to make it out that the medal hadn't yet been won. What a strange thing to say? The heptathlon in a seven event sport, however far ahead she was, nobody should come out and say if was win after six events. Jess herself said she wasn't even thinking about the result until she crossed the line.
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Post by Paul on Aug 5, 2012 14:06:53 GMT 1
The BBC was a bit naughty in trying to make it out that the medal hadn't yet been won. What a strange thing to say? The heptathlon in a seven event sport, however far ahead she was, nobody should come out and say if was win after six events. Jess herself said she wasn't even thinking about the result until she crossed the line. I didn't get the impression that the Beeb were managing expectations at all. IMO they were painting it as a gold in the bag. I think that the girl in 2nd needed to get an 800m time 20s quicker than her personal best to even stand a chance of getting gold, so it was pretty much nailed on.
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Post by Panda on Aug 5, 2012 14:11:46 GMT 1
I think that the girl in 2nd needed to get an 800m time 20s quicker than her personal best to even stand a chance of getting gold, so it was pretty much nailed on. And she was so slow, she dropped down to 5th overall. There was a bit of confusion at first as results were showing Schwarzkopf, who got silver, as being disqualified from the 800m but it was either a mistake or she was reinstated.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 5, 2012 14:27:07 GMT 1
How far did that Korean goalie dive out of his goalline? Is that allowed? Shame Ramsay didn't take his 2nd penalty like he did the one in the shootout! same distance as the GB keeper, only Sturridge hit a shockingly awful pen
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