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Post by suedehead on Jun 30, 2014 0:05:08 GMT 1
GO COSTA RICA . But Holland will beat them surely. Probably. Against Greece they may have got frustrated if it got to 0-0 after an hour but I can't see that happening against Costa Rica.
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Post by Mart!n on Jun 30, 2014 0:05:25 GMT 1
To be honest it was a poor match, Costa Rica should have nailed it earlier in 90 mins, but they just ran out of steam.
Anyhow I'm glad Costa Rica are through, should be a great quarter final match with Holland.
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Post by Panda on Jun 30, 2014 0:15:28 GMT 1
ALG | ARG | | BEL | | BRA | | | COL | CRC | | | | FRA | GER | | | | | | | | | NED | NGA | | | | | SUI | USA | |
Australia | 18/06/2014 | eliminated from Group B
| Spain | 18/06/2014 | eliminated from Group B
| Cameroon | 18/06/2014 | eliminated from Group A
| England | 20/06/2014 | eliminated from Group D
| Bosnia-Herzegovina | 21/06/2014 | eliminated from Group F
| Croatia | 23/06/2014 | eliminated from Group A
| Italy | 24/06/2014 | eliminated from Group D
| Ivory Coast | 24/06/2014 | eliminated from Group C
| Japan | 24/06/2014 | eliminated from Group C
| Iran | 25/06/2014 | eliminated from Group F
| Ecuador | 25/06/2014 | eliminated from Group E
| Honduras | 25/06/2014 | eliminated from Group E
| Ghana | 26/06/2014 | eliminated from Group G
| Portugal | 26/06/2014 | eliminated from Group G
| Russia | 26/06/2014 | eliminated from Group H
| South Korea | 26/06/2014 | eliminated from Group H
| Chile | 28/06/2014 | lost on penalties to Brazil in 2nd round
| Uruguay | 28/06/2014 | lost to Colombia in 2nd round
| Mexico | 29/06/2014 | lost to Netherlands in 2nd round
| Greece | 29/06/2014 | lost on penalties to Costa Rica in 2nd round
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12 teams are left in the World Cup
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Post by suedehead on Jun 30, 2014 0:18:54 GMT 1
To be honest it was a poor match, Costa Rica should have nailed it earlier in 90 mins, but they just ran out of steam. Anyhow I'm glad Costa Rica are through, should be a great quarter final match with Holland. From the moment I sent an email about how boring it was (just before Costa Rica scored) things took a turn for the better. The first half was dire but the rest of the match was a good deal better. The Dutch should beat Costa Rica comfortably.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jun 30, 2014 1:16:22 GMT 1
Exactly and they still got further than england. Says it all really, there team is that bad and that boring but consistently out perform england. not sure we can criticise any other team. Sure greece are awful to watch but they havent got much to work with. Their whole squad put together probably earn less than rooney alone
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Post by Panda on Jun 30, 2014 1:26:10 GMT 1
Exactly and they still got further than england. Says it all really, there team is that bad and that boring but consistently out perform england. Twice wouldn't be my definition of "consistently".
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Post by Earl Purple on Jun 30, 2014 8:47:38 GMT 1
Compared to the fact that of all the European Championship tournaments and World Cups from 1970 onwards we have only progressed further than Germany / West Germany once.
(We won the World Cup in 1966 and qualified for Euro 1968 finals when they didn't. Subsequently the only tournament in which we progressed further than them was Euro 2004)
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jun 30, 2014 9:13:27 GMT 1
Exactly and they still got further than england. Says it all really, there team is that bad and that boring but consistently out perform england. Twice wouldn't be my definition of "consistently". The last decade 2004 greece won the euros. We flopped 2008 greece qualified for the euros. We didnt even qualify 2012 greece got out their group and lost 4-2 to germany the same round we lost to italy after a 0-0 draw. 4-2 slightly more entertaining than a bore draw 2014 they reach the knockout stages. We finish bottom 2006 england do well with our golden generation as greece fail to qualify 2010 with a pool of gerrard, lampard, rooney, terry, a.cole in their prime we make it a whole round further than an awful greek team. If by twice ever you mean four times in the last decade spanning only the last 6 tournaments then I agree. Which to me is consistantly when you consider the gulf in class in englands favour
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Post by Earl Purple on Jun 30, 2014 9:58:17 GMT 1
Going back to 2002:
2002: England qualified whilst Greece didn't in same world cup qualifying group. England reached last 8 (1-0) 2004: Greece won, England only quarter final (1-1) 2006: England reached quarter final, Greece failed to qualify (2-1) 2008: Greece qualified (lost in group), England didn't qualify (2-2) 2010: England reached last 16, Greece didn't get through group (3-2) 2012: England and Greece both got through group then lost in first knockout round (still 3-2) 2014: Greece reached last 16, England didn't get through group (3-3)
So equal in progress in tournaments since 2002. Going back further England progressed further other than World Cup 1994.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jun 30, 2014 10:10:40 GMT 1
So far all the group winners have beaten the group runners up in the knockout stage.
For that to continue we would see France, Germany, Argentina and Belgium progress at the expense of Nigeria, Algeria, Switzerland and the USA.
I think that is quite a likelihood. I don't recall ever seeing this happen before. Since 1998 when it has been 32 teams, occasions when in the first knockout round the team that came 2nd in their group beat the team that came 1st in theirs:
1998: Denmark beat Nigeria, Croatia beat Romania 2002: England beat Denmark, Senegal beat Sweden, USA beat Mexico, Turkey beat Japan 2006: Ukraine beat Switzerland, France beat Spain, 2010: Ghana beat USA
In 2002 it happened in half the matches, in other world cups it has been the minority and only once in the last one.
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Post by Panda on Jun 30, 2014 10:17:23 GMT 1
Twice wouldn't be my definition of "consistently". 2012 greece got out their group and lost 4-2 to germany the same round we lost to italy after a 0-0 draw. 4-2 slightly more entertaining than a bore draw If performance and entertainment suddenly becomes the main criteria over results, then you've really just kicked your own argument right in the balls.
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Post by Panda on Jun 30, 2014 10:20:15 GMT 1
On the two occasions in football history when Greece have qualified for a tournament and England haven't (1994 and 2008), the two met in a friendly either at the start or the end of those qualifying campaigns. England won the games by a combined margin of 9-0.
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Post by Panda on Jun 30, 2014 10:38:36 GMT 1
Fact of the day:
Since the European Championship expanded to 8 teams in 1980 (and 16 in 1996) there hasn't been a single World Cup that featured all of the last 8 teams from the previous Euros.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jun 30, 2014 11:16:22 GMT 1
and in the last decade how many of those 100 or so greek players capped in major tournaments would make any of the england teams starting line up over he last decade? 1? 2? none? yet even if you consider going out 4-2 and 0-0 a tie greece have still out performed england in 3 of the last 5 major tournaments and did as well as in the other one, oh and actually won one, since when did going out one round later become such a mega achievement?
I know it is in vogue to slate greece and call them boring, ofcourse they are but you can only work with what you have, if england achieved half as much with a much more talented bunch they would have won several tournaments over the last decade, when did having better players and doing worse become more of an accomplishment than winning the damn thing or outlasting better teams? its like rotherham playing man u and nicking a win for us to go, bah well they played sh*t though so doesn't count
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Post by Panda on Jun 30, 2014 11:59:38 GMT 1
since when did going out one round later become such a mega achievement? Exactly and they still got further than england. Says it all really ^ since then I'm not convinced Greece do really punch above their weight. I think they have some talented players and have the ability to play some decent attacking football but because they won the Euros by boring their opponents to death and by playing the dullest, most negative football ever played at a major tournament, they've just stuck with it because it worked for them once. Their squad contains players who play in Spain, Italy, Germany, England as well as Greece (Olympiacos - last 16 of Champions League) so they're hardly the bunch of League One cloggers you're making them out to be. They showed flashes of how they can really play in the qualifying playoff against Romania and even last night against Costa Rica (albeit against 10 men) when I thought they were actually the better side and played better than they've played in the whole tournament.
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Post by o on Jun 30, 2014 13:06:48 GMT 1
Really glad Costa Rica got through!
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jun 30, 2014 13:47:25 GMT 1
I noticed paulo wanchope on the sidelines against greece, must be coaching costa rica, 45 international goals, 21 in world cup qualifying and 3 in the world cup itself against brazil and germany (2), not a bad record
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Post by rewardman on Jun 30, 2014 17:15:54 GMT 1
Delighted to see Costa Rica progress at the expense of the Greeks though it looked very dicey in the latter part of the 90 minutes and for most of the extra-time period.
You have to hand it to all five CR PK takers. Coolness personified.
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Post by rewardman on Jun 30, 2014 17:19:18 GMT 1
Very tight but offside was correct.
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Post by rewardman on Jun 30, 2014 17:22:27 GMT 1
Terrific save there.
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