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Post by o on Oct 2, 2015 9:41:05 GMT 1
Can someone explain why we still have "officials" behind the goals in the Champs League, why do the balls not have chips in instead? That's what we have in the Prem League and in the last World Cup didn't we? They're human and will miss goals as was the case this week.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Oct 2, 2015 11:02:33 GMT 1
they miss everything, even when they see it they don't give it!
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Post by Paddy on Oct 3, 2015 15:34:01 GMT 1
So the table right now is double Manchester then Palace and West Ham... Interesting Champions League sides there!
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Post by Paddy on Oct 3, 2015 18:58:02 GMT 1
Chelski, as I type, are losing to saints 2-1, are 16th in table and points clear of relegation!
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Post by Robbie on Oct 3, 2015 21:24:39 GMT 1
Chelski, as I type, are losing to saints 2-1, are 16th in table and points clear of relegation! Southampton ended up winning 3-1. an deservedly so as they were by far the best team. I can see Mourinho resigning or getting sacked. He's basically lost the plot and is going to get hauled over the coals for how he has treated his (now ex) medical staff.
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Post by Robbie on Oct 3, 2015 21:27:54 GMT 1
Man City 6 Newcastle 1
What a bizarre result. We went 1-0 up and it should have been 2-0 but let in a goal just before half-time. Then in the second half we just fell to pieces. Bottom of the table and we just can't defend a 1 goal lead. We just can only play in the first half - we were 2-0 up to chelsea and then lost all composure and ended up drawing 2-2.
I can't see Steve McClaren lasting until Christmas - he's quite useless as a manager and doesn't seem to have a clue what he is doing.
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Post by Robbie on Oct 3, 2015 21:31:29 GMT 1
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Post by Paddy on Oct 3, 2015 21:43:55 GMT 1
Chelski, as I type, are losing to saints 2-1, are 16th in table and points clear of relegation! Southampton ended up winning 3-1. an deservedly so as they were by far the best team. I can see Mourinho resigning or getting sacked. He's basically lost the plot and is going to get hauled over the coals for how he has treated his (now ex) medical staff. He's come out to say he won't walk so sacking is only option. McLaren should have stayed at derby.
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Post by Robbie on Oct 3, 2015 22:28:36 GMT 1
Southampton ended up winning 3-1. an deservedly so as they were by far the best team. I can see Mourinho resigning or getting sacked. He's basically lost the plot and is going to get hauled over the coals for how he has treated his (now ex) medical staff. He's come out to say he won't walk so sacking is only option. McLaren should have stayed at derby. I'm not sure if Derby wanted to keep him. If I recall they were top of the Championship in January and then went into freefall so I think Derby were looking at having a change of manager anyway.
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Post by Tom on Oct 4, 2015 18:10:40 GMT 1
Chelski, as I type, are losing to saints 2-1, are 16th in table and points clear of relegation! Southampton ended up winning 3-1. an deservedly so as they were by far the best team. I can see Mourinho resigning or getting sacked. He's basically lost the plot and is going to get hauled over the coals for how he has treated his (now ex) medical staff. While it's fun to see Chelsea struggling like this, and personally I actually thought it was a winnable match for Southampton so wasn't as surprised by the result as probably many were, i'm not sure it's so good for Reading. I'm hoping if we go up we may be able to persuade Chelsea to let Hector stay at Reading for one more year but if they continue to struggle like this defensively they may be more inclined to use him next season. He's also versatile, his best position is centre back and that's presumably why Chelsea have bought him but he can also play holding midfield or right-back (although he's never played right-back for us so is very untested there).
May also make it more difficult to get their best young players on loan too like we have done on a few occasions in 2015.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Oct 4, 2015 18:12:52 GMT 1
and Dick Advocaat has walked
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Post by Tom on Oct 4, 2015 18:21:58 GMT 1
He's come out to say he won't walk so sacking is only option. McLaren should have stayed at derby. I'm not sure if Derby wanted to keep him. If I recall they were top of the Championship in January and then went into freefall so I think Derby were looking at having a change of manager anyway. Yes what Paddy said isn't true. He turned down Newcastle after Derby missed out on the playoffs and then not long after that Derby sacked him. Think I said at the time that his interview on the final day didn't struck me as someone who was looking to leave.
When Newcastle appointed him I thought it was a good appointment, but initially think I was undecided. At the moment it looks like he would have been better off taking a break, especially after turning you down initially, makes it seem like he rushed into it.
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Post by Shireblogger on Oct 4, 2015 18:39:22 GMT 1
And Liverpool have sacked Brendan Rodgers. So much for that long-term plan.
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Post by raliverpool on Oct 4, 2015 18:39:39 GMT 1
and Dick Advocaat has walked Well he beat Brendan Rodgers to the sack race by a few hours. I hope the Jurgen Klopp has signed a 3 year deal rumours are true.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Oct 4, 2015 18:54:49 GMT 1
undecided about Klopp, almost got the champions league final team relegated the season after 1 player left, the other 10 players plus 40 million worth of new players were playing regular, he relegated Mainz but had huge success building Dortmund from nothing, but the media love him and nobody picks up on his massive failings, just his one success!
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Post by raliverpool on Oct 4, 2015 19:05:04 GMT 1
I have to say I am strongly pro BBC.
But hearing Ian Wright talk total and utter b****cks saying Liverpool FC (who were 50-1 at the start of the 2013-2014 season when no one expert predicted LFC would win the EPL) should have won the title that year; highlights that it must be an essential qualification for an Arsenal centre forward to be a clueless buffoon spouting nonsense (see also Thierry Henry on £4m per year on Sky Sports, whilst the likes of Gary Neville & Jamie Carragher look on with a mixture of exasperation and annoyance) as a football pundit.
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Post by Tom on Oct 4, 2015 19:19:18 GMT 1
Not sure how interested people are about this, but have noticed two more similarities with the current Reading side and 2005. Interesting to hear on the fans podcast on Friday that it's almost exactly 10 years ago that we set a marker down by beating Sheffield United 2-1. I listened to that game on the Reading World commentary in the days when links were provided on the fans forum/chat room and I'll grudgingly agree with Warnock who didn't think we deserved to win. Of course what Warnock failed to mention is that the keeper (Paddy Kenny off the top of my head) should have been sent off for handball outside the box. I've seen an opposition keeper sent off for very similar but this incident was a lot more clear cut than that one was (home v Forest 2005, was a very close call). Kenny was miles outside the box and in doing actually saved a Leroy Lita shot that I think was goalbound. So in that respect, 3 points was justice done. Coppell rarely spoke about referees so when he did you listened and when he admitted it should have been a red you knew the ref had got it horribly wrong.
Fast forward 10 years and a 2-0 win yesterday against a Middlesbrough side I expect to win automatic promotion this season with what looked like a largely dominant display. I'm feeling good about our chances of automatic promotion and possibly the title
The other similarity is we've also been flying out of the blocks for the last month, something that the glorious 2005-2007 side did, and to a lesser degree what we did in McDermott's first half season once he'd pulled us away from the relegation zone in 2010. Scored our quickest ever league goal yesterday and our 3rd fastest overall.
Of course it's typical that nowadays when generally I can't follow the score until the 2nd half on a Saturday the text updates from the club have stopped The quick goals don't really mean much.
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Post by Paddy on Oct 4, 2015 19:45:14 GMT 1
I'm not sure if Derby wanted to keep him. If I recall they were top of the Championship in January and then went into freefall so I think Derby were looking at having a change of manager anyway. Yes what Paddy said isn't true. He turned down Newcastle after Derby missed out on the playoffs and then not long after that Derby sacked him. Think I said at the time that his interview on the final day didn't struck me as someone who was looking to leave.
When Newcastle appointed him I thought it was a good appointment, but initially think I was undecided. At the moment it looks like he would have been better off taking a break, especially after turning you down initially, makes it seem like he rushed into it.
My bad. Sorry.
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Post by suedehead on Oct 4, 2015 22:56:19 GMT 1
I have to say I am strongly pro BBC. But hearing Ian Wright talk total and utter b****cks saying Liverpool FC (who were 50-1 at the start of the 2013-2014 season when no one expert predicted LFC would win the EPL) should have won the title that year; highlights that it must be an essential qualification for an Arsenal centre forward to be a clueless buffoon spouting nonsense (see also Thierry Henry on £4m per year on Sky Sports, whilst the likes of Gary Neville & Jamie Carragher look on with a mixture of exasperation and annoyance) as a football pundit. I don't understand why Ian Wright has suddenly become a television pundit again. He was useless before and he's still useless. That said, and regardless of their pre-season odds, Liverpool really should have won the title in 2014. They were in a very strong position with just a few games to go and they blew it. What were Liverpool's odds with five games to go?
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Post by Tom on Oct 5, 2015 8:21:21 GMT 1
And Liverpool have sacked Brendan Rodgers. So much for that long-term plan. That was his downfall at Reading, he admitted he hadn't thought about the short-term. Will put this out there, my thoughts on Rodgers sacking by Reading.
Pros
1) Thought he deserved a bit more time, he was trying to play a passing game which was something the club wasn't used to. 2) Don't think he was helped in the transfer window, both by key players leaving and also the signings we made, some weren't first choice and in the case of Matt Mills i'm not sure he was even his signing as I think the groundwork had been done before he was appointed.
Cons 1) He wasn't sure of his best team or his best formation. He continually chopped and changed, we used loads of players in a short space of time in various formations, think they were 4-4-2 diamond, 4-3-3, and 4-5-1/4-2-3-1. Also didn't know how to get the best out of the players, Gylfi Sigurdsson being the one that immediately springs to mind. 2) Fell out with players, Matt Mills was the main one. IIRC Mills confronted him at one point in the dressing room and Rodgers after that then wanted to sell him, which supposedly was the main reason he got sacked as he fell out with the majority of the board over it (Madejski had to be persuaded to sack him). Doubt Shane Long thought too highly of him either as that was the worst period of his Reading career. 3) He didn't come across well, most notably in the Tommy Smith debacle, and whilst that's something I think he's better at now it was interesting to read Gerrard's comments about his treatment by Rodgers last season (which goes back to the point immediately above).
Overall we were right to sack him. I'll let people decide how many similarities there are there with his current situation...
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