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Post by raliverpool on Mar 11, 2020 20:05:06 GMT 1
This is a thread for discussing the potential impact of the virus on numerous sports but especially Football where it is nearly two thirds through the season.
Already, Italian football has been suspended; and over the next 24 Hours the German; Spanish & French leagues are meeting to discuss suspending their respective seasons. Man City v Arsenal is postponed tonight due to the Coronavirus; all whilst numerous sporting events are being cancelled including Tennis; Darts; & Athletics; whilst the Olympic Games are in serious jeopardy.
So to get the discussion going .... should the English Leagues be suspended and not able to complete do you think the results & League Tables for 2019/20 should be cancelled as void, with it starting all over again in 2020/21 season with Man City as Premier League champions; etc; or do you think as they are over two-thirds distance the results should be counted either via a Duckworth Lewis type points per game variable; or as they do in sports such as F1 or Golf; count as final by the last completed game (lap/hole)?
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Post by suedehead on Mar 11, 2020 21:59:06 GMT 1
If the Premier League season is declared null and void, the squeals of outrage from Liverpool supporters could be highly entertaining!
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Post by smokeyb on Mar 11, 2020 22:01:41 GMT 1
Could the pools panel be re-instated and predict the results?
Or select 1 player from each team and play the remaining games on Football Manager or FIFA 2020?
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Mar 11, 2020 22:06:20 GMT 1
Problem is there are 2 or 3 teams joint on goal difference inside and outside of the relegation zone, some have easier games left to play than others
Team 1 has a final 6 run in of... Man U away (5th) Spurs Home (8th) Leicester home (3rd) Man City away (2nd) Southampton home (14th) Everton away (12th)
team 2 has a final 6 run in of Newcastle away (13th) Burnley home (10th) Norwich away (20th) Watford home (17th) Man U away (5th) Villa home (19th)
So they should say unlucky your going down because one team got to play easier fixtures, wont there be all kinds of lawsuits? one has to play 3 of the top 5, the other 3 of the bottom 4
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Post by raliverpool on Mar 11, 2020 23:27:31 GMT 1
If the Premier League season is declared null and void, the squeals of outrage from Liverpool supporters could be highly entertaining! I fear you are going to get your wish with financial cheats Manchester City remaining English Premier League Champions.
Like Jean van de Velde on Devon Loch successfully after getting over the final fence with no one near them .....
Coronavirus: Juventus centre-back Daniele Rugani tests positive for virus
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Post by o on Mar 11, 2020 23:32:17 GMT 1
At the moment, they just need to play the games...If they have to play some behind closed doors, then the Prem teams can with their vast tv sums, sadly several lower league clubs would go bust if that happens.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Mar 11, 2020 23:49:26 GMT 1
Liverpool will have bruised egos and a sense of injustice if the season is avoided now
But teams at the bottom will lose hundreds of millions and could go bust if the season is unfairly ended after 28 games for the reasons mentioned above so there is only one solution if it comes to that
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Post by Crazy Don on Mar 12, 2020 1:47:00 GMT 1
In the States, all the NCAA collegiate basketball tournament games will be played in empty arenas.
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Post by Crazy Don on Mar 12, 2020 3:17:10 GMT 1
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Post by Shireblogger on Mar 12, 2020 8:35:26 GMT 1
If the Premier League needs to be halted then it should go to an auction.
The bids should be placed in sealed envelopes, and whoever bids the most will finish first. Second highest bid would be second, and so on.
And then the money should be distributed in reverse order to the clubs. So, the team that finishes bottom, and gets relegated, by placing the lowest bid, will receive all of the money from the champions. Second bottom, also relegated, gets the runners-up's money. And so on, so 11th gets 10th and 10th gets 11th, and the champions receive the cash from the team that placed the lowest bid.
This way, we'll really find out who is trying to buy glory, and who is playing the long game by building a sustainable club. We'll also see which clubs' boards are the smartest. If I were Norwich or Watford or Brighton or Bournemouth, I might submit a bid of £0. I'd accept relegation, but then have a goldmine with which to build for future seasons. And the clubs which bid successfully to finish 10th and 11th will have a net expenditure/income from the process of about £0, but will have PL safety secured for another season, and also the prize money for finishing 10th and 11th.
Imagine how much the Premier League could earn from selling the tv rights for the envelope opening ceremony. And we could have live footage from every Board Room, as the directors celebrate success, or hide their faces in shame as their lack of ambition is revealed in glorious technicolour to their fans. Any club unable to supply live coverage from the Board Room featuring all of the directors, would be instantly relegated, regardless of their bid.
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Post by Shireblogger on Mar 12, 2020 8:40:37 GMT 1
In the lower leagues, make a note of the points scored when the season ends, by the team lying one place above the relegation line.
Start the next season with that team, and all those below it, on 0 points. But the other clubs would start the 20/21 season with the points advantage gained in 19/20.
At the moment, the Championship has Hull in 21st on 41 points. So, if the season stopped now, Middlesbrough, Wigan, Hull, Charlton, Luton and Barnsley would all start on 0 points. Huddersfield and Stoke would start with 1 point. Leeds would start with 30 points.
This would mean that the 19/20 season isn't a complete write-off, but every club has a fighting chance to compete for something in 20/21, whether it be automatic promotion, the play-offs, or avoiding relegation.
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Post by o on Mar 12, 2020 13:49:45 GMT 1
This season has to be finished, simple as, too much at stake for clubs. And if they play games behind closed doors in the lower leagues, there will be at least 6 less teams and probably more in the FL next season. Just play the games with crowds, and get on with it.
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Post by Robbie on Mar 12, 2020 13:55:58 GMT 1
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Post by o on Mar 12, 2020 14:08:33 GMT 1
The problem with suspending it, which is what my son prefers for the Championship, is when are the games going to get played with an impending Euros competition to come (if it goes ahead?)
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Post by Shireblogger on Mar 12, 2020 14:24:08 GMT 1
Outdoors is one of the best places to be, if you want to avoid coronavirus. But if someone is close to you, and sneezing without using a tissue/handkerchief, then move away quickly.
There is justification for postponing matches if one of the teams has players in quarantine &/or ill. But, unless the host town has a large number of cases, it is unnecessary to postpone a match to protect spectators at this stage of the cycle.
Nobody suggested postponing matches in November and December, when there were far more people suffering from seasonal flu. I don't recall any sporting events cancelled during the 2009 swine flu pandemic which killed about 400 people in the UK, out of about 30,000 affected.
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Post by o on Mar 12, 2020 14:32:29 GMT 1
Yeah the swine flu thing seems not to be getting mentioned very much, supposedly killed around 300,000 people worldwide, and yet like you say, no events were postponed or cancelled...
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 12, 2020 14:39:29 GMT 1
if it's the only solution, pause the season then resume this season to an end when appropriate, and then continue with the promotions and relegations having happened including any playoff matches having been played.
Treat it like when we had snow and games were postponed.
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Post by Shireblogger on Mar 12, 2020 14:40:30 GMT 1
I guess the key difference from swine flu is the fatality rate.
According to Wikipedia date, swine flu killed about 4% of the people who were confirmed as infected, although data quality varies enormously from country to country.
At the moment, 4,700 people have died from coronavirus and 63,000 have recovered. If that ratio is maintained, then the death rate is 2x that of swine flu.
The Diamond Princess is an especially interesting test case. Every individual can be named and monitored precisely. On average, they were wealthier than the average person on the planet (and therefore, presumably, healthier); but also older (and therefore more susceptible). But they all had good care. Less than 2% died.
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 12, 2020 14:40:42 GMT 1
Similarly with Euro 20 and the Olympics. Have them in 2021 if necessary. Would it be a crime against humanity if these events took place in a year that isn't a leap year?
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Post by Panda on Mar 12, 2020 19:07:04 GMT 1
This weekend's Australian Grand Prix has been called off (somewhat belatedly) after a member of the McLaren team tested positive for the virus.
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