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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jun 26, 2020 17:27:11 GMT 1
Ha Revolution, I liked that too, such a good cast
Billy Burke (Zoo) Elizabeth Michell (Lost & V) Giancarlo Esposito (Breaking Bad)
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 27, 2020 9:00:39 GMT 1
Just been thinking of more shows I missed
Beyond The Tomorrow People Humans (should have included this) Almost Human The Runaways The Strain
All good shows
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 27, 2020 9:10:52 GMT 1
24 Harry Hills TV Burp
Woh!! curveball!! It is the funniest UK TV show of the 21st century, there said it. At many points our family needed medical help we were laughing so much. Such a simple concept just make fun of the weeks telly and have lots of silly characters. But it was so well observed must have taken 100s of hours of work to make each episode.
It ran way longer than I realised. We were not huge Harry Hill fans but this was a show that the whole family could watch, some jokes went over the kids head. I'm not even sure you can make a compilation of the best bits that doesn't go on for weeks but i will try.
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 27, 2020 9:19:50 GMT 1
23 The Good Place
With no Veronica Mars on the list, it will be next time, we have Kristen Bell's next big show The Good Place. One of the most clever and though provoking comedies ever, tackling subjects you'd never think would ever be mentioned in a US Sitcom. Also starring Ted Danson, I don't want to spoil anything but lets say its a comedy about the afterlife and ethics. Just watch the trailer, this could be your new favourite show!
22 Life On Mars
Well we knew this was coming and it wins the prize of being my top BBC show of the 21st century. A brilliant recreation of the world of the 70s as we saw it in TV shows at the time. Sam Tyler was a great character that we all could relate to but Gene Hunt was the star, sexist, arrogant and the rest. The show also had a brilliant ending. Assuming you have watch, here are some of the many brilliant lines and moments in the show.
Just realised how much these two shows have in common.
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 27, 2020 9:27:17 GMT 1
21 Parks & Recreation
If you haven't seen this show , it is basically the Office but set in a Parks & Recreation dept of a small city council. The first season wasn't brilliant but stick with it as it will get super awesome. Every character is brilliant but Nick Offerman has many of the best moments. But Amy Poehler, Rashida Jones, Chris Pratt, Adam Scott, Rob Lowe and Aziz Ansari are just excellent. I work in a council so it all seems so much more real to me. But I will stress Leslie Knope starts as a female version of David Brent, when they fix that the show is awesome, please stick with it.
Oh April (Audrey Plaza) how could I forget you, the best stroppy teen ever! Only watch if you are a fan already
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 27, 2020 10:03:24 GMT 1
Now we are coming to the top 20
Loosely we have 9 Sci/fi/fantasy shows, 3 dramas,1 action, 4 superhero shows and 3 comedies
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Post by greendemon on Jun 27, 2020 11:42:18 GMT 1
Life On Mars is your top BBC show of the 21st century? Wot no Lark Rise to Candleford? Brilliant, brilliant show and I would rank it highly too, although sad to say I barely remember it so will have to watch again one of these days. Haven't seen your other recently-posted ones though I have heard good things about Parks & Rec. As for the ones still to come, I can guess at a few of them but not many. I'm scratching my head trying to think of the 9 sci-fi/fantasy series left: there is the big obvious one and two or three others that could be up there, but I'm stumped beyond that!
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 27, 2020 12:06:30 GMT 1
Life On Mars is your top BBC show of the 21st century? Wot no Lark Rise to Candleford? Brilliant, brilliant show and I would rank it highly too, although sad to say I barely remember it so will have to watch again one of these days. Haven't seen your other recently-posted ones though I have heard good things about Parks & Rec. As for the ones still to come, I can guess at a few of them but not many. I'm scratching my head trying to think of the 9 sci-fi/fantasy series left: there is the big obvious one and two or three others that could be up there, but I'm stumped beyond that! Some just have sci-fi elements, just maybe slightly Black Mirrored versions of our world or they are set in the future
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 28, 2020 10:08:34 GMT 1
Top 20 time
20 The Man In The High Castle
This has made my top 20 even though I wasn't completely happy with the way the show went and the fact it has already ended after just 4 seasons. Season 1 was near perfection, pretty close to being my dream show. I love alternate history stories and this is the ultimate, what would the world be like if the Nazi wons. Of course 'High Castle' isn't just that, it involves travelling between different dimensions, one which is our world, and the world where the Nazis won.
As well as all the Wolfenstein stuff, it was the treatment of the people which made this show resonant so much, Jews, Blacks, disabled and the ill. Watching these rules being enforced in the West and seeing the pain and changes of John Smith as he gets deeper and deeper in and how it affects his own family. I thought we should have had more dimension stuff but I think budget issues have prevented that and I really think Jo Blake was wasted, they really suffered when they lost Frank Spotnitz as showrunner. But although flawed in the end, it was an epic show and Amazons best.
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 28, 2020 10:21:29 GMT 1
19 Arrow
With Marvel dominating the movies, DC decided they would try and dominate TV. The first show was Arrow. It was a much darker show than we expected. Oliver Queen starts as a no mercy vigilante called The Hood, who works his way through a list of people who wronged the city he loves. Through friends and family, he mellows and recruits a team and becomes a hero and spends 8 years protecting Star City. Although The Flash's best season beats Arrow overall it is the show where it all started so will be special for that.
18 Agents Of Shield
Not to be outdone Marvel launched their TV show. Centred round Agent Coulson who 'died' in The Avengers and a team of agents who deal with the problems that the Avengers are too busy to deal with. It starts as a case of the week show but after Captain America:Winter Soldier, the TV show changes step and becomes its own brilliant thing. As the show goes on , more powered characters are added including giving powers to existing characters such as Skye. AoS is one of the best Tv shows of the 10s , many seasons are even more epic than the Marvel movies. There has been several underlying plot threads from the vere start and its brilliant watching them unfold, I am rewatching Season 1.The story is not quite over though, the last season will be screened on E4 very soon.
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 28, 2020 10:32:25 GMT 1
17 The Expanse
This isn't the most famous space opera show on the list but it may one day be my favourite. I will warn you it starts very slow and there are so many plot threads and characters you don't really know how it all fits together but you must stick with it as by Season 3 this show is just pure brilliance. I am not even sure I can explain it to you but it starts as a detective story about a missing girl and about tension between 3 different worlds, Earth, Mars and The Belt. But there is so much more, just loved it.
16 Daredevil
Daredevil has always been one of my favourite superheroes, the 00s movie was good but this show is just another level. Some of the best choreography and fight sequences ever on TV, brilliant supporting cast and an amazing villain Vincent D’Onofrio as Kingpin, this is the best Kingpin since Spiderman Animated Series from the 90s. Stylish, shocking, emotional, just a show that makes you punch the air!! Just brilliance. Season 2 was a slight dip mind you.
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Post by greendemon on Jun 28, 2020 16:05:35 GMT 1
Two of those I've seen, one (The Expanse) has been on my 'to watch' list for the longest time but I've never got around to it. There's another huge sci-fi show I don't think you've posted yet which I have seen.
The Man In The High Castle might be one of the best Amazon Originals they've done. It has its weak points - I found the middle seasons dragged a bit - and there were a couple of character exits that felt so abrupt that I spent the rest of the show half-expecting that we would meet their alternate-world counterparts at some point. Especially Joe Blake - I was really surprised they didn't do more with the character. Highlights of the show were the worldbuilding - it really did feel disturbingly convincing, particularly the Japanese Pacific States! - and the acting. The absolute highlight, though? The whole damn Smith family. Rufus Sewell never disappoints but Helen Smith was the star for me. I found watching the slow disintegration of their marriage in seasons 2-4 so absorbing, as Helen and eventually John slowly realise what monsters they've become.
I didn't like Arrow as much as you do but then see my previous point about not really being into superheroes, and the fact remains that although we didn't finish it we did stick with it for a lot longer than I think we have any superhero show. I did enjoy the darker theme of it, and I especially liked that his 'powers' weren't really due to anything supernatural (this is why I still like Batman despite not liking superheroes generally). But eventually we started finding the storylines and some character decisions feeling more and more contrived and just slowly lost interest, I think maybe season 4 or 5.
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 30, 2020 17:46:50 GMT 1
Two of those I've seen, one (The Expanse) has been on my 'to watch' list for the longest time but I've never got around to it. There's another huge sci-fi show I don't think you've posted yet which I have seen. well you don't have to wait long for it 15 Battlestar Galactica
It is a very long time since I have seen this but for the most part it is the great space series of the 21st century. Ok it may lack some of the fun of the original, which was my favourite TV shows for years but this has so many great scenes and fan pleasing moments. The ships, the sound effects, the first time you see an old skool Cylon, when Apollo turns up as another character. We all knew about the female Starbuck month before so that wasn't a spoiler but we really warmed to Katee Sackoff very quickly. It all went a bit silly in the final season, I really don't think they had a real plan for the show but it was so epic, i didn't really care too much.
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 30, 2020 17:56:00 GMT 1
14 Person Of Interest
Many of these top shows are from the house of JJ Abrams and for the most part they were all brilliant. PoI does get off to a slow start, nothing more than an excuse for a case of the week and using the 'machine' as a macguffin but as the seasons go on it becomes a character itself, and the greater conspiracy story opens up and it becomes must see TV. So many brilliant characters and its a kick ass show as well as being thought provoking.It is scarily close to reality, this technology is already here.
13 Lost
Now the show were it all started, again JJ Abrams of course. Probably the number one water cooler show on the list. We see production values that have never been seen on a network show before. It is the most crazy show ever, is it complete nonsense, a joke on all of us?? who really cares if its so damn entertaining but least said about the damn button season the better!! I am planning to watch this again probably with Ryan this winter. This may seem very high for a show this ridiculous but it was groundbreaking TV.
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Post by greendemon on Jun 30, 2020 18:01:24 GMT 1
Ha BSG was an absolutely brilliant show for the most part, but I really didn't like the final season either. They were a little too in love with the 'mystery' aspect of the plot and just tried to keep that going for a bit too long. But the series overall contains some of the best sci-fi TV that's ever been made, in my opinion. Some absolutely heartbreaking moments especially in the later seasons. Few sci-fi shows I've ever seen have had the capacity to move me quite that much. The whole thing with Starbuck and Apollo is just so damn sad! What do you hear? Nothin' but the rain...
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 30, 2020 18:03:49 GMT 1
12 Freaks And Geeks
Now my biggest show that nobody as heard of from 1999-2000. It has such an effect on me last year when I watched it. The time period, the setting, the characters, the future stars, the music!! This is a teen drama comedy set in the late 70s around about the time disco died. It was created by Paul Feig, who is now one of the biggest people in Disney:Marvel and produced by Judd Apatow. It stars a young cast including James Franco, Linda Cardelinni, Jason Segel and Seth Rogen but the real stars are the younger cast who are the geeks. I probably was a bit of a geek but I so wanted to be a freak, you can also go from being the schools biggest brain to being a freak which is the journey Lindsay takes in this show.
This is a perfect show, if you love teen drama and 70s rock, you have to watch this. Shame it only ever got a single season as it was up against Millionaire in the schedules in the US, like really. If they had Netflix then this would have been a massive hit!!
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Post by greendemon on Jun 30, 2020 18:05:32 GMT 1
Ah, Lost. I stuck with it for a good while but eventually lost patience with its refusal to answer any question without providing at least two new questions. And don't get me started on the polar bear In the end I didn't even see the last season because I'd stopped caring about the mystery. And when I read up about how it had ended, I have to say I didn't regret not watching it! David hasn't seen it so there's always a chance we will watch the whole thing at some point...
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Post by Smurfie on Jun 30, 2020 21:02:46 GMT 1
Two of those I've seen, one (The Expanse) has been on my 'to watch' list for the longest time but I've never got around to it. There's another huge sci-fi show I don't think you've posted yet which I have seen. well you don't have to wait long for it 15 Battlestar Galactica
It is a very long time since I have seen this but for the most part it is the great space series of the 21st century. Ok it may lack some of the fun of the original, which was my favourite TV shows for years but this has so many great scenes and fan pleasing moments. The ships, the sound effects, the first time you see an old skool Cylon, when Apollo turns up as another character. We all knew about the female Starbuck month before so that wasn't a spoiler but we really warmed to Katee Sackoff very quickly. It all went a bit silly in the final season, I really don't think they had a real plan for the show but it was so epic, i didn't really care too much. The original ending episodes were equally as silly when they got to Earth - it was all about the characters rather than the plot. Shame as when they were good (both the original and the reincarnation) they were really good. To me Battlestar Galactica was better than Star Wars as a kid.
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Post by Smurfie on Jun 30, 2020 21:04:54 GMT 1
Parks & Recreation is also great, but it really had to warm up - series three onwards were brilliant.
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Post by TheThorne on Jun 30, 2020 21:47:03 GMT 1
well you don't have to wait long for it 15 Battlestar Galactica
It is a very long time since I have seen this but for the most part it is the great space series of the 21st century. Ok it may lack some of the fun of the original, which was my favourite TV shows for years but this has so many great scenes and fan pleasing moments. The ships, the sound effects, the first time you see an old skool Cylon, when Apollo turns up as another character. We all knew about the female Starbuck month before so that wasn't a spoiler but we really warmed to Katee Sackoff very quickly. It all went a bit silly in the final season, I really don't think they had a real plan for the show but it was so epic, i didn't really care too much. The original ending episodes were equally as silly when they got to Earth - it was all about the characters rather than the plot. Shame as when they were good (both the original and the reincarnation) they were really good. To me Battlestar Galactica was better than Star Wars as a kid. Totally agree the feature length episode ‘The Cylon Attack’ was better than any Star Wars.
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