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Post by Earl Purple on May 10, 2021 20:21:43 GMT 1
Roughly how long do you reckon this will last? Overlapping tends to meet with lacklustre at the end/start - or is this a Celebdaq all year round thing? No more than 10 or 11 songs each, and as there are no "sing-offs" we could probably fit 3 rounds into every 2 weeks,
12 acts would mean 11 rounds, 20 acts would mean 2 groups of 10, 9 songs each in the rounds, then one final one.
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Post by Earl Purple on May 10, 2021 20:23:03 GMT 1
Surely if you're just playing one song against each artist, then people will vote for the act they want to win and not the song They can do that now anyway in Haven Factor.
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Post by Mic1812 on May 10, 2021 20:26:14 GMT 1
sounds a bit complexing to me and just another re working of what we have already
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Post by Earl Purple on May 10, 2021 20:28:45 GMT 1
sounds a bit complexing to me and just another re working of what we have already It's quite simple really, you will know all the artists you will be competing against, and you will have to pick a song to play against each one as a head-to-head.
They do this on UKMix.
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Post by ManicKangaroo on May 10, 2021 20:33:21 GMT 1
I don't fancy it. I'd rather just stick to Haven Factor
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Post by Good Old Days on May 10, 2021 20:33:30 GMT 1
sounds a bit complexing to me and just another re working of what we have already It's quite simple really, you will know all the artists you will be competing against, and you will have to pick a song to play against each one as a head-to-head. They do this on UKMix. On UKMix we sent a list of songs, but the host used a random draw, so we didn't select certain song for each duel.
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Post by Earl Purple on May 10, 2021 20:34:41 GMT 1
I prefer if it you pick what song you play against each artist, but you can send the list up front with the list of opponents and which song you will play against each one.
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Post by Earl Purple on May 10, 2021 20:35:08 GMT 1
I don't fancy it. I'd rather just stick to Haven Factor If others enter it though would you still vote?
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Post by ManicKangaroo on May 10, 2021 20:42:49 GMT 1
Possibly, but if you don't like either song then you're more likely to abstain than you would in Haven Factor because that has an end goal and you're entrenched in the game.
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Post by Smurfie on May 10, 2021 20:47:22 GMT 1
Yeah, not keen on this one either. Not being funny but the UKMix version sounds fairer - but essentially we are replicating Haven Factor.
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Post by Whitneyfan on May 10, 2021 20:47:47 GMT 1
It would probably deflect away from Haven Factor, which is getting more interesting now many of the big acts have been used up.
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Post by Earl Purple on May 11, 2021 13:36:31 GMT 1
It would probably deflect away from Haven Factor, which is getting more interesting now many of the big acts have been used up.
It will be different, but the issue of course is whether artists who are in one competition would then be entered in the other. Whilst we have seen at various times lesser known artists, or those with very few hits, being entered in to Haven Factor and often even doing well, I was planning, at least for the first edition, to restrict who can be entered, as the intention was to allow a contest for lesser known artists and for their mentor to have a chance of showing off multiple songs by them without getting eliminated.
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Post by TheThorne on May 11, 2021 13:40:20 GMT 1
It would probably deflect away from Haven Factor, which is getting more interesting now many of the big acts have been used up.
It will be different, but the issue of course is whether artists who are in one competition would then be entered in the other. Whilst we have seen at various times lesser known artists, or those with very few hits, being entered in to Haven Factor and often even doing well, I was planning, at least for the first edition, to restrict who can be entered, as the intention was to allow a contest for lesser known artists and for their mentor to have a chance of showing off multiple songs by them without getting eliminated.
And how do you define lesser known, this just seems to be complicated, not sure Ill be entering this.
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Post by Earl Purple on May 11, 2021 14:11:25 GMT 1
It will be different, but the issue of course is whether artists who are in one competition would then be entered in the other. Whilst we have seen at various times lesser known artists, or those with very few hits, being entered in to Haven Factor and often even doing well, I was planning, at least for the first edition, to restrict who can be entered, as the intention was to allow a contest for lesser known artists and for their mentor to have a chance of showing off multiple songs by them without getting eliminated.
And how do you define lesser known, this just seems to be complicated, not sure Ill be entering this. Lesser known: similar to how we did it in Hidden Indie Treasures, I guess. Melody Club would have been allowed other than the fact that they won Haven Factor so would be banned individually.
If they've even made one decent album you can just play the tracks off their album.
Of course, that means if you don't know anything about the artists you're up against, you wouldn't have a real tactic of what song to play against whoever else. It's a way to test out the format though.
We could, in future, use this as a contest for major artists, but those who were in Haven Factor and got eliminated quite early on, although we were considering a re-run.
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Post by Shireblogger on May 11, 2021 15:33:06 GMT 1
So potentially 20 unknown acts that we have to listen to a minimum of 9 tracks by, week after week after week.
You might get a few people who listen to all of the entries in week 1, and from then on just quickly vote for their favourite act each week without listening to many of the songs. But I'm not sure there'll be a huge number of people willing to subject themselves to 180 tracks by the likes of Ivana Van Der Veen and Isla Grant.
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Post by Mic1812 on May 11, 2021 15:40:33 GMT 1
Its a no from me
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Post by Whitneyfan on May 11, 2021 15:42:11 GMT 1
Yeah, I'm all for opening my ears to new music, but that just sounds like a massive chore to me!
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Post by Earl Purple on May 11, 2021 15:51:54 GMT 1
It might work then if you have a small number of artists and a thus a small number of rounds. 6 acts with 5 songs each.
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Post by ManicKangaroo on May 11, 2021 15:57:27 GMT 1
I think you're banging your head against a closed door EP
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on May 11, 2021 19:03:36 GMT 1
I thought about it and its a no from me. I get the feeling a lot of songs will go unlistened to, it asks for quite a bit of patience, time, commitment and long attention spans, I would even go as far as saying Haven Factor has become too obscure for some, lots of negative comments, stopping voting because you hate the acts left, voting before listening to all the songs. I'm not sure starting a longer, much more obscure, less exciting version is needed, the formula is the best part and that's what is going to be taken away
I have a better idea. If you want to do a head to head song contest why don't you take your charts, all your songs that peaked at #1, #2, #3 etc and throw them into a raliverpool style random head to head battle every week or so, that could run alongside any contest comfortably, if that's what you want to do.
Personally we have pop Idol, rock Idol, dance Idol, pot purè Idol and we struggle to fit them in and that is such a good unique idea thats interesting all the way till the end. They usually have a few unique rounds thrown in that require the use of lesser known songs, theres a bit of something for everyone. Even this contest has a 2 or 3 year waiting list, I wouldn't like to see it pushed out of our schedule
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