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Post by Mic1812 on May 27, 2023 12:23:53 GMT 1
Would love to know what people think of the whole Phillip Schofield thing that has erupted over the last week.
Was he wrong to cover up his relationship with a slightly younger person. Yes if he was dating him before the age of 18 and grooming him like the press say.
Or are the press jumping on something that links his brother being outed as a paedo
So what if he was dating a bloke whilst married this happens. This is his private life. I think he has been forced to tell the truth about his private life to satisfy certain people at ITV
Did ITV throw him under a bus as per Holly Willoughby stating its me or him. Is this another Saville type thing at the ITV. Or is it over exagerating.
If the guy is gay he is gay so what
Whatever happens next is crucial to his career. I cant see him working for ITV ever again but i wouldnt be surprised if the BBC snap him up.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on May 27, 2023 12:39:11 GMT 1
It's nothing more than he broke the terms of his contract as a clean cut daytime TV presenter, he has soiled his reputation, gay, straight, bi, he was probably on his last warning after cheating on his wife with men for decades, in fact he probably got off last time when he shouldn't have simply for being "brave", they bottled sacking him because the backlash for proportionate consequences would've been insane from the loony left
Having pedo genes in the family and him having a thing for very young men probably hasn't helped either, not sure why he should still have the privilege to be a much loved tv celebrity, he has lost the right I'm afraid
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Post by TheThorne on May 27, 2023 12:39:30 GMT 1
Hopefully it's all a fuss about nothing, and we are in the UK, the legal age is 16 anyway, wasn't there a fight for parity in that respect. Yes it's a bit creepy, I am not a fan of big age differences gay, straight or otherwise but it's legal so that's up to him. Celebrities have affairs all the time hardly a reason to lose/leave your job. But tbh I don't really care, never watched him in anything apart from The Cube since he left the broom cupboard.
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Post by Smurfie on May 27, 2023 16:24:48 GMT 1
It’s been a grotty drag out in the media regardless of the circumstances - his career is stone cold dead now. Big gaps in age in relationships with someone in their teenage years is not a new thing in the entertainment business industry but for someone fulfilling a wholesome TV act as wholesome Phil appearing on daytime TV with wholesome Holly, anything otherwise was going to end badly. If the lying and deceit part with his wife is true, and grooming from a pre legal age, that wouldn’t sit right with me.
But then it’s the same morning time slot that followed Jeremy Kyle, so was always ripe for a lynch mob whether he shagged the runner or had a speeding ticket. As always the story has legs, so I’m just going reserve judgement right now.
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Post by Mic1812 on May 27, 2023 20:06:00 GMT 1
Holly Willowbooby has spoken out now saying she was disappointed that he lied to her about the alleged affair. What the hells it got to do with her anyway. She soon turned against him and has showed her true spots also. She is doomed now on that programme as well. Hearing that This Morning may even be scrapped.
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Post by raliverpool on May 27, 2023 20:50:31 GMT 1
I think we'll have a better idea whether there is more fire to the sizeable amount of smoke which has come out of this story. However, it is somewhat interesting that "Pip" Schofield's downfall is uncannily similar to the opening plotline to Apple TV's The Morning Show. In the first season, after her on-air partner of 15 years, Mitch Kessler, is fired amidst a sexual misconduct scandal with a much younger male, Alex (Jennifer Aniston's character) fights to retain her job as top news anchor while paired with a new partner, Bradley Jackson (Reese Witherspoon), a field reporter whose series of impulsive decisions increasingly threatens the network. Interestingly, one of the co-writers of the show is British comedian Matt Lucas (under a pseudonym). Whilst, as a purchaser of the fortnightly Private Eye magazine. I'm well aware of the inference that David Walliams downfall from Britain's Got Talent was allegedly as a result of the influence and reach of a then much loved ITV morning presenter who was also instrumental in DW's close friend Amanda Holden being ditched from being a frequent presenter on ITV's This Morning. Please take into account the stories of their feud from 2020, which have been reignited in the past week. metro.co.uk/2020/02/10/happened-phillip-schofield-amanda-holden-12213738/In short, if Private Eye's allegations (without naming names but providing enough intel to fill in the blanks) is true then good riddance to a horrid, fake human being on our TV screens. |
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Post by Whitneyfan on May 28, 2023 17:42:27 GMT 1
If the lad he had an affair with was a legal age when they got together then it's nobody's business what they got up to. Of course he's already been tried and convicted by the British public though.
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Post by smokeyb on May 28, 2023 19:30:04 GMT 1
Give it a couple of years and he will be in the jungle with Ant & Dec.
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Post by raliverpool on May 28, 2023 19:57:16 GMT 1
If the lad he had an affair with was a legal age when they got together then it's nobody's business what they got up to. Of course he's already been tried and convicted by the British public though. That PS lied is the problem. It is again worth stressing that this isn't simply a case of him casually lying about an affair to friends and co-workers which would be unfortunate but understandable in the immediate aftermath of his younger lover drunkenly coming out at the 2020 National TV Award ceremony in front of former colleagues, it was an affair after all. Rather the issue is that he lied to his immediate bosses/supervisors and his employer during an official investigation into the relationship which was a breach of company policy. On the surface of it those lies also led to his management team and ITV working to have stories shut down in the press (and pursuing a complaint to IPSO) because they seemingly took him at his word that there was no truth to the rumours. "He lied" is an understatement of what happened. What will ultimately make the situation worse is that those lies make an affair that already looks bad (given the age gap and when the two met) look even worse. It becomes much harder, with QueueGate & his brother's activities, to take him at his word that the affair was entirely legal when he's already spent so long lying about it and covering it up. And of course none of this digs into the power dynamics of this particular workplace relationship which would be troubling even if he'd been honest about the whole thing, which resulted in a number of This Morning staff leaving as a (indirect) result of his falsehoods. I don't see anyway ITV could have stood behind him with just the facts as they've been presented so far.
If it turns out that there is nothing more to this story than PS lying about having an affair with a consenting adult who happened to work for him and This Morning not being rigorous enough in their employment procedures (i.e. allowing presenters to dictate who is hired and fired) then an awful lot of this mess could have been avoided.
Most companies do not allow people who are in a relationship to work together in order to prevent favouritism etc. So the person in question could have been moved to another post. As indeed he was but this seems to have been at PS’s behest because he wanted to end the relationship or had already done so rather than applying normal workplace rules. After all if they were not aware of the affair then they would have had no reason to move the guy.
It’s always been the risk when workplace affairs end there is often lots of unpleasant fall out. Especially if the decision to end the relationship is not mutual. Which is why they’re best avoided. As PS & everyone associated with This Morning is now discovering at great cost.
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Post by Mic1812 on May 28, 2023 21:50:18 GMT 1
The BBC will make a move for him.
Lets face it he spent years with his hand up a stuffed puppets arse for
years and nobody said anything about that
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Post by Pablo on May 28, 2023 22:32:55 GMT 1
Holly Willowbooby has spoken out now saying she was disappointed that he lied to her about the alleged affair. What the hells it got to do with her anyway. She soon turned against him and has showed her true spots also. She is doomed now on that programme as well. Hearing that This Morning may even be scrapped. She's very much entitled to her opinion, given they've been in each other's company regularly (on and off screen) for about 15 years. I wonder if what was actually said in the "rift" between her and PS would ever come out into the media. It does seem it was the trigger point of all things going wrong for Schofield recently on top of his brother's conviction. PS had an influence in bringing HW over to host This Morning after Fern Britton left, so I don't think she'll turn unless something was said in this "rift".
This Morning will be on tomorrow - a former TV doctor has accused TM of bullying and a toxic culture behind the scenes, hence the rumours of it being scrapped.
We need to remember there is another innocent party here caught up with all of this and that is PS's (former) wife and his daughters. After coming out and the separation, this is surely another gut-blow to them on something that is PS's own doing.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on May 29, 2023 11:45:36 GMT 1
"Man sacked for committing a sackable offence", we don't really need to know much more, smear him or back him just because of his sexuality. He will have to just deal with the consequences of his actions
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Post by Whitneyfan on May 29, 2023 15:25:57 GMT 1
I don't really care about the fact he was sacked, it's just all the hatred towards him on social media, when he hasn't even been arrested for any crime yet, that really gets to me. Human nature is a really horrible thing.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on May 29, 2023 16:01:18 GMT 1
Would it make you feel any better if i told you the noisy 25%/40% of social media users (depending what platform you use) are actually fake accounts that are automated/AI generated and a lot are designed to spread hate and destabilise society from foreign countries, they are almost impossible to tell them apart from actual people, sure there will be idiots too from dead end towns who are unhappy with their lives chipping in and a few trolls but I wouldn't be surprised if most of the anti PS traffic is fake
Humans only make up 38% of internet traffic, so chances are most of what we read on social media isn't even created by a person these days, scary stuff in itself, and lynch mobs will then of course feel brave enough to chip in their opinion if it looks like a free for all, I haven't heard a single person in real life say anything unreasonable about him so that's what I'm going on, the real world, its why i like this place its so insignificant it still actually populated by people
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Post by o on May 29, 2023 20:58:54 GMT 1
I expect it's the tip of the iceberg in the entertainment industry, he certainly wont be the only celebrity grooming young people, or using their power in the industry to get slightly older but naive people to do grubby things...
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Post by Jordan on May 29, 2023 21:12:09 GMT 1
It is so laughable that ITV released a statement the other day saying they were 'surprised' by the admission. I knew about this affair over a year ago, they for damn sure did too. Blatant attempts made to supress the story, as well as blatant attempts to distance Holly from Phil with stories planted of a 'rift' over the last few months and that they were 'hardly speaking' in the run up to the story. Poppycock.
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Post by TheThorne on May 29, 2023 21:29:03 GMT 1
Would it make you feel any better if i told you the noisy 25%/40% of social media users (depending what platform you use) are actually fake accounts that are automated/AI generated and a lot are designed to spread hate and destabilise society from foreign countries, they are almost impossible to tell them apart from actual people, sure there will be idiots too from dead end towns who are unhappy with their lives chipping in and a few trolls but I wouldn't be surprised if most of the anti PS traffic is fake Humans only make up 38% of internet traffic, so chances are most of what we read on social media isn't even created by a person these days, scary stuff in itself, and lynch mobs will then of course feel brave enough to chip in their opinion if it looks like a free for all, I haven't heard a single person in real life say anything unreasonable about him so that's what I'm going on, the real world, its why i like this place its so insignificant it still actually populated by people One of the reasons why I have deleted all my social media accounts and only have Facebook with all notifications and settings switched off. If anything really important happens in the world, someone will post about it here, that’s all I need. |
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Post by suedehead on May 29, 2023 22:29:07 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on May 29, 2023 23:20:01 GMT 1
All this stuff about ITV and This Morning being toxic, I think Twitter is more toxic to be honest. Full of hate and vile stuff. You've literally described GB News. |
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on May 30, 2023 10:32:24 GMT 1
Would it make you feel any better if i told you the noisy 25%/40% of social media users (depending what platform you use) are actually fake accounts that are automated/AI generated and a lot are designed to spread hate and destabilise society from foreign countries, they are almost impossible to tell them apart from actual people, sure there will be idiots too from dead end towns who are unhappy with their lives chipping in and a few trolls but I wouldn't be surprised if most of the anti PS traffic is fake Humans only make up 38% of internet traffic, so chances are most of what we read on social media isn't even created by a person these days, scary stuff in itself, and lynch mobs will then of course feel brave enough to chip in their opinion if it looks like a free for all, I haven't heard a single person in real life say anything unreasonable about him so that's what I'm going on, the real world, its why i like this place its so insignificant it still actually populated by people One of the reasons why I have deleted all my social media accounts and only have Facebook with all notifications and settings switched off. If anything really important happens in the world, someone will post about it here, that’s all I need. I'm the same with propaganda TV too, if something I need to know happens I will hear about it. I heard about his brother whilst playing golf then about Phillip Schofield getting in trouble on here, then I was sent a few funny memes about Gordon the Gofer. So I've avoided both the news smear campaign and the toxic social media fallout. Its not like either report good news, or even an unbiased report of events, it's all "opinion" based on politics. I've checked out to be honest, none of it interests me, you only have so many hours left before your dead so why fill it with lies, negativity and feelings of anger, dissapointment, fear and hopelessness |
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