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Post by tommie on Oct 18, 2004 1:58:34 GMT 1
Ah, possibly the most controversial subject on all Jackson-related boards: plastic surgery, or more specifically, the surgery on their noses. I mean, really, what is the deal? Have any of the Jackson children NOT have any job done to their noses? Of course, LaToya and Michael are the most obvious, but also Rebbie and Janet (and the others too, I guess!) seems to have had work done. This thread is not meant to bash and I really hope that it won't get out of hand, but I'm only curious and trying to understand why they're doing it, really. I wonder who did the 'button' nose first - I know LaToya had a pretty small one in 1988, but I'm not sure how Michael's looked then... oh well.
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Post by Shellshock on Oct 18, 2004 10:36:57 GMT 1
I don't know. I remember some years ago I heard every Jackson child has had a nose job except one, but I'm not sure which. I think even Joseph has had some surgery on his face. I think it comes down to their childhood and being told they were ugly/not worthy by their father. La Toya and Michael seem to be the most obsessed with their noses. I think they both looked great after their first jobs, but took it a bit far, especially Michael:
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Post by tommie on Oct 18, 2004 13:33:21 GMT 1
LaToya seems to have stopped with her nose surgeries since the late eighties/early ninties - at least if you compare the "No Relations" cover to how her nose looks today. I can't see any big differences at least... I found this page while googleing - a bit mean, yes, but it gives you a good over sight on Michael's surgeries.
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Post by Shellshock on Oct 18, 2004 14:04:58 GMT 1
That's an interesting read. I think his worst look was definitely 2000 with all the stubble. I must say he's looking a bit better this year though, although I don't know if the pics we've seen (from the courts and things) have been heavily airbrushed or not.
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Post by James on Oct 18, 2004 15:30:06 GMT 1
I think he needs to leave all surgery for a while let his skin grow 'normally' without being cut at or picked at. Then maybe try wearing darker makeup & have his hair a lighter colour. If he just has the end of his nose made a bit larger and 'normal' then i think that would be considered a vast improvement.
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Post by Shellshock on Oct 18, 2004 15:39:03 GMT 1
I think his hair looked best when it was curly.
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Post by Aihnoa on Oct 18, 2004 19:58:42 GMT 1
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Post by James on Oct 18, 2004 20:46:25 GMT 1
Maybe the court case will help him get more of a grip on reality.
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Post by JanetLover on Oct 18, 2004 21:08:03 GMT 1
The one that haven't done any nose jobb is Jackie. (What I have heard) I don't know. I remember some years ago I heard every Jackson child has had a nose job except one, but I'm not sure which. I think even Joseph has had some surgery on his face. I think it comes down to their childhood and being told they were ugly/not worthy by their father. La Toya and Michael seem to be the most obsessed with their noses. I think they both looked great after their first jobs, but took it a bit far, especially Michael:
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Post by Shellshock on Oct 18, 2004 21:12:05 GMT 1
I think you're right. In this picture from 1989 it still looks wide. Edit: Recent picture -
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Post by ublew on Oct 19, 2004 0:03:31 GMT 1
I didn't realise Jackie was the hold-out.. I read too that even Joseph and Katherine Jackson had nose jobs as well.. And according to Margaret Maldonado's book, Jermaine also had cheek implants put in..
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Post by Shellshock on Oct 19, 2004 9:48:31 GMT 1
I think their dad's had a load of work done too. He looks like he's in an eternal state of shock and awe (like someone just scared the sh*t out of him every second) from all the botox injections and plastic surgery he's had. Presumably he's trying to smile in this picture.
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Post by latifaheaston on Oct 19, 2004 17:23:19 GMT 1
;D he looks almost demonic!
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Post by KuchiKaiai on Oct 19, 2004 20:59:31 GMT 1
Out of respect for Toy, I won't make fun o Michael's looks, but I do think she and Janet look the best. Had Toy left herself alone in the midnineties she's be totally stunning, but she is still beautiful today.
I wish Michael would just stop. Janet is the only one who doesn't overdo it which is why she's such a star.
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Post by Shellshock on Oct 19, 2004 21:08:52 GMT 1
We're not making fun. I think most of us feel sorry for him and wished he hadn't taken it so far. I just pray to god La Toya doesn't get anything else major done cause I'd hate to see her face crumbling apart in the future too. Rebbie looks like she hasn't had much done although her eyebrows look a bit odd.
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Post by James on Oct 19, 2004 21:36:44 GMT 1
Janet is easily the best looking & i think she'd still be even if none of them had surgery. I think it would be interesting to see who are the most emotionally secure/insecure & then the amount of surgery they had. I think Janet seems to be the most down to earth but ive also heard a few things about her which im curious to know if they're true.
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Post by mrsmichaeljackson on Oct 21, 2004 4:47:47 GMT 1
despite what tabloids have made the public think, Michael has always had a grip on reality, you just gotta hear his interveiws and speeches to know that.
I think the Jacksons and plastic surgery discussions and jokes are so old. I mean I saw some plastic surgery show the other week, and only yesterday saw in a magazine, people bashing LaToya for the amount of surgery she's had done....and I think its pathetic that this if how the world looks at the Jacksons. they act like no one else in the world has had surgery.
Everyone knows how self concious Michael has always been, if you saw LWMJ he talked about the way he was picked on for his looks growing up, especially his nose. And despite what people say, IMO he has stopped having surgery...and looks great today! The thing I hate most, is when people say "Michael changed his skin colour" he DID NOT change his colour...that was due to vitiligo..he is not the only Jackson with this disease, as Janet stated not long ago.
People have to stop speculating about the surgery and their personal lives...and focus on the amazing talent that Jackson family has.
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Post by Shellshock on Oct 21, 2004 10:54:49 GMT 1
The thing I hate most, is when people say "Michael changed his skin colour" he DID NOT change his colour...that was due to vitiligo..he is not the only Jackson with this disease, as Janet stated not long ago. Hmm. But then in the early 90s, La Toya admitted to using cosmetics (might've meant make-up) to lighten her skin and said there's no history of the disease in their family. Vitiligo does *not* change your skin as much as Michael's and usually when people have it, they dye it to their natural colour (black for Michael) not the other way. But I agree that it's not something to laughed at as they're clearly very insecure about their looks, which is pretty sad.
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Post by James on Oct 22, 2004 18:51:42 GMT 1
So who else has this disease in the family? btw, i dont think you can believe much of what she said whilst married to jack gordon.
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Post by mrsmichaeljackson on Oct 23, 2004 10:45:49 GMT 1
I think an aunt of the Jacksons has it as bad as Michael..I'm no sure which other family member has it, but I know it comes from Joseph's side of the family, and Janet said Michael's not the only family member suffering from it. I have done research on vitiligo, and yes it does get as bad as Michael has it, and as Michael has previosuly said the dark blotches are covered with make-up. Here's proof of Michael's condition... Shellshock...as much as we all love Toy, you gotta remember most of what she said and did in the late 80s, early 90s was coming from Jack Gordons mind not Toya's. If you watch the interveiw with Michael and Toy from 1984, I think it was, look at how different she is...Gordon brainwashed her. And I wouldnt be suprised one bit if it was his idea to make her wear light make-up to make her look white. That man is an asshole.
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