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Post by Panda on Oct 3, 2010 19:16:59 GMT 1
Europe should definitely be able to get the 5 points they need from those matches.
I'd expect wins for Donald, McDowell, Poulter, McIlroy and Kaymer. Westwood has a great chance against Woods. The others could go either way, so we could get a few halves.
It could end up something like 17-11.
Recent Ryder Cup scores heading into the singles:
2008 - Valhalla USA 9-7 Europe Final: USA 16.5-11.5 Europe
2006 - The K Club Europe 10-6 USA Final: Europe 18.5-9.5 USA
2004 - Oakland Hills USA 5-11 Europe Final: USA 9.5-18.5 Europe
2002 - The Belfry Europe 8-8 USA Final: Europe 15.5-12.5 USA
1999 - Brookline USA 6-10 Europe Final: USA 14.5-13.5 Europe
1997 - Valderrama Europe 10.5-5.5 USA Final: Europe 14.5-13.5 USA
1995 - Oak Hill USA 9-7 Europe Final: USA 13.5-14.5 Europe
1993 - The Belfry Europe 8.5-7.5 USA Final: Europe 13-15 USA
1991 - Kiawah Island USA 8-8 Europe Final: USA 14.5-13.5 Europe
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Post by Panda on Oct 3, 2010 19:21:57 GMT 1
And now it turns out that line-up is complete b****cks. Well done BBC.
These are the REAL singles pairings:
1. Westwood v Stricker 2. McIlroy v Cink 3. Donald v Furyk 4. Kaymer v D Johnson 5. Poulter v Kuchar 6. Fisher v Overton 7. Jiminez v Watson 8. F Molinari v Woods 9. E Molinari v Fowler 10. Hanson v Mickelson 11. Harrington v Z Johnson 12. McDowell v Mahan
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Post by raliverpool on Oct 3, 2010 19:28:07 GMT 1
I bet when Tiger Woods saw his pairing for tomorrow he went "Oh mannnn..."
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Post by Panda on Oct 3, 2010 19:49:10 GMT 1
I suspect he'll feel better about playing Francesco Molinari than if he was playing Westwood.
I don't know where BBC got that first list from. The actual list is slightly less favourable for Europe, but I still think it could be something like 16-12.
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Post by wonderwall on Oct 4, 2010 16:55:02 GMT 1
Europe win the ryder cup beating the usa 14 and a half to 13 and a half great entertainment
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Post by rubcale on Oct 4, 2010 17:33:55 GMT 1
Close call and desired result but congrats to US on great fightback.
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Post by Panda on Oct 4, 2010 22:15:39 GMT 1
McDowell for Sports Personality of the Year anyone?
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Post by Panda on Oct 5, 2010 0:55:49 GMT 1
Sports Personality of the Year odds:
15/8 Graeme McDowell 2/1 Tony McCoy 9/1 Jessica Ennis 16/1 Phil Taylor 16/1 Lewis Hamilton 25/1 Colin Montgomerie 25/1 Mo Farah 33/1 Paul Scholes 50/1 Jenson Button 50/1 Graeme Swann 50/1 Lee Westwood 66/1 Ian Poulter 66/1 James Anderson 80/1 Mark Cavendish
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Post by rubcale on Oct 5, 2010 13:15:36 GMT 1
Sports Personality of the Year odds: 15/8 Graeme McDowell 2/1 Tony McCoy 9/1 Jessica Ennis 16/1 Phil Taylor 16/1 Lewis Hamilton 25/1 Colin Montgomerie 25/1 Mo Farah 33/1 Paul Scholes 50/1 Jenson Button 50/1 Graeme Swann 50/1 Lee Westwood 66/1 Ian Poulter 66/1 James Anderson 80/1 Mark Cavendish While Graeme is a fellow countryman I don't see that he deserves this more than anyone else because of the Ryder Cup. As he says himself it was just a matter of luck in what order the matches panned out. Certainly I would consider him for his US major.
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Post by o on Oct 5, 2010 13:22:27 GMT 1
Team event winners yes, individual, no.
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Post by Drunkster on Oct 5, 2010 15:08:07 GMT 1
I happened to see a news item on the Ryder Cup this morning, when a European fan shouted out "you have Big Mac, we have Little Mac" ..... I found that rather amusing
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Post by Shireblogger on Oct 5, 2010 15:31:20 GMT 1
I'm not really a golf fan, but the Ryder Cup is a great sporting event.
All the positives:- extraordinary skill, excruciating bad luck, twists & turns, an unfolding story, individual vs. team, visually spectacular, tense right to the finish, genuinely delighted winners...
And very little of the negatives:- prima donnas, overt corporate sponsorship & interference, unsporting spectactors, cheating participants...
This year's event was one of the best that I recall. Well done to everyone involved - American and European.
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Post by Shireblogger on Oct 5, 2010 15:33:43 GMT 1
Sports Personality of the Year odds: 15/8 Graeme McDowell 2/1 Tony McCoy 16/1 Lewis Hamilton 50/1 Jenson Button Always helpful to make your mark within a few months of the voting. If the Grand National was in October and the Ryder Cup in April, the bookies would have stopped taking bets on McCoy. Of course, if Hamilton or Button wins the F1 championship, then the whole picture will change again.
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Post by raliverpool on Oct 5, 2010 20:20:47 GMT 1
It would take a dramatic turn of events for either Button or Hamilton to win the F1 World Championship as both Ferrari's & Red Bulls are the faster cars now.
I do think Tony McCoy will win Sports Personality of the Year; but if the BBC allow a certain 15 times World Champion onto the shortlist (which they wont) then a campaign would get behind him for this sporting legend to be recognised.
For that reason alone there is no way the BBC will include Phil "The Power" Taylor on that shortlist of 10. Even though for me his two nine darter finishs (the first time in the history of the sport) in the final of the Premier League versus James Wade was the greatest sporting spectacle I have seen in 2010.
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Post by Panda on Oct 6, 2010 10:49:47 GMT 1
For that reason alone there is no way the BBC will include Phil "The Power" Taylor on that shortlist of 10. Even though for me his two nine darter finishs (the first time in the history of the sport) in the final of the Premier League versus James Wade was the greatest sporting spectacle I have seen in 2010. The BBC don't decide the shortlist. It's decided by a selection of newspapers, magazines and websites, each of whom nominates ten. The ten with the most nominations go onto the shortlist. Each publication's list of ten is published on the BBC website. Taylor's been on the shortlist before, as recently as 2006. If the BBC are worried about mass-campaigning why did they allow Ryan Giggs onto the list last year, and inevitably Paul Scholes this year?
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Post by wonderwall on Oct 6, 2010 11:53:30 GMT 1
I think mccoy will win it this year
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Post by rubcale on Oct 6, 2010 18:11:45 GMT 1
If Scholes were to win it then it should be scrapped.
No guesses for who will win Team of the Year.
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Post by Panda on Oct 6, 2010 19:17:25 GMT 1
If Scholes were to win it then it should be scrapped. I think I'd tend to agree with that... No guesses for who will win Team of the Year. It's not as clear cut as you may think. Let's not forget England won the World Twenty20, though as they won the award last year, it's probably more likely to go to the Ryder Cup team. Andy Flower and Monty could be battling it out for Coach of the Year as well. Interestingly the European Ryder Cup team won the award in 1985, 87, 95 and 02, so there have been several occasions when they've missed out after winning the Cup. In 1997, they lost out the Lions rugby squad, who won in South Africa. In 2004, it went to the Olympic men's coxless four crew and in 2006 it was won by St. Helens. No golfer has won the main award since Nick Faldo in 1989. Darren Clarke in 2006 is the only golfer to finish in the top 3 since then. No jockey has ever won the award, though three equestrians have. McCoy previously finished 3rd in 2002, behind Paula Radcliffe and David Beckham.
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Post by Panda on Oct 6, 2010 19:20:38 GMT 1
FASCINATING FACT: Clive Woodward is the only English winner of the Coach of the Year award. (Dave Brailsford was born in England but raised in Wales)
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Post by wonderwall on Oct 7, 2010 9:10:36 GMT 1
I know people will laugh but Phil taylor has never been giving the recognition he deserves
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