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Post by vastar iner on Jan 24, 2012 19:56:33 GMT 1
Allman Syndrome - your biggest hit comes when you're guesting with someone else and nobody really pays any attention to you. Other exponents: Robert Smith, Pete Townsend, Graham Nash.
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Post by ChartFreak on Jan 24, 2012 20:05:47 GMT 1
Chinese Democracy Syndrome or StoneRoses Syndrome You spend too many years making an album that will never live up to the hype and is usually disappointing at best or horrific at worst. That reminds me! Did Stereo MCs ever release a second album or just those awful early-00s singles
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Post by suedehead on Jan 24, 2012 20:17:41 GMT 1
Ohhhhhhhh, that's a PERFECT example. Think I'd call it Berry Syndrome, though, as Chuck was before them all. True!
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Post by smokeyb on Jan 24, 2012 21:10:50 GMT 1
What about the Black Lace syndrome - where every song you release is sh*t---- Loads more examples I bet, too many to list here
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Post by thehitparade on Jan 24, 2012 22:41:17 GMT 1
Chinese Democracy Syndrome or StoneRoses Syndrome You spend too many years making an album that will never live up to the hype and is usually disappointing at best or horrific at worst. That reminds me! Did Stereo MCs ever release a second album or just those awful early-00s singles Stereo MCs did release a second album... in 1990! So we'll call people-not-realising-how-long-you've-been-around Stereo MCs syndrome. To answer the original implied question, there was a Deep Down & Dirty album in 2001, which went Top 20 but only lasted three weeks in the Top 75. They've released at least two more studio albums since to little notice, which seems to prove some sort of point.
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Post by Smurfie on Jan 24, 2012 22:51:39 GMT 1
I'm sure there's loads of people with Duffy syndrome. David Gray for a start. ?? White Ladder was his fourth album, if thats the David Gray album youre referring to?
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Post by Panda on Jan 25, 2012 0:28:54 GMT 1
Embrace syndrome: hailed as the next "greatest band in the world" by the (moronic) music press, couldn't handle the pressure and committed commercial suicide on their second album.
See also Ash.
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Post by borneoman on Jan 25, 2012 8:12:28 GMT 1
the Gaga syndrome: proclaiming you're gonna do the best album ever that is gonna change the world... except is not other examples: agree on Ash but they redeemed themselves with Free All Angels and yes White Ladder is not David Gray's debut...
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Post by SheriffFatman on Jan 25, 2012 9:33:30 GMT 1
I'm sure there's loads of people with Duffy syndrome. David Gray for a start. ?? White Ladder was his fourth album, if thats the David Gray album youre referring to? "If that's the David Gray that you're referring to"? Sorry, that wasn't quite patronising enough, do you want to pat me on the head too? Reading through this thread, it's surprising how easy it is to upset an artist's unflinching, die-hard fans just by pointing out indisputable facts about their chart and sales performance. Still, David Gray-wise, I accept I may have chosen the wrong syndrome. I was, however, referring to the fact that Babylon was his first big hit single and everything he has done since has failed to get anywhere near it in terms of popularity, sales or air play.
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Post by Panda on Jan 25, 2012 22:52:35 GMT 1
agree on Ash but they redeemed themselves with Free All Angels I actually quite liked Nu-Clear Sounds but by making that album, they alienated a lot of people who bought 1977 (which may well have been the point). They've always been up and down since then but the A-Z series was a welcome return to form.
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Post by vya on Jan 26, 2012 0:05:21 GMT 1
The ABC Syndrome - Put out one absolutely fantastic, supremely well-crafted and generally timelessly wonderful pop album, have big success with it;
Then - follow it up with something also rather good, but in a rather different and less immediately accessible style (and ensure that the most poppy track has lyrics that the BBC wouldn't then have happily played), and flop commercially.
Then - And then put out another pretty damn good album in a different style again, and change your image, and flop commerically again. And then, desperate for a hit, put out a bland, watered-down relation of the first album that frankly doesn't come close in quality to any of the other albums, but it sells and you have hit singles again.
Then - well perhaps the less said the better about the next bit.
And then much later on have a big return to form which gets played on Radio 2 occasionally but is bought by almost no-one.
Everyone still loves your first album though - and many would love the 2nd one and some of the 3rd one if only they'd heard them...
Or the Lilac Time, or Go-Betweens Syndromes (closely related). Keep putting out excellent stuff, for the same old people every time. Who needs new fans or chart positions above 77 anyway? Much loved.
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Post by vastar iner on Jan 26, 2012 0:49:41 GMT 1
ABC Syndrome sounds like Altered Images. To be fair though ABC lost momentum with Martin Fry's illness.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 26, 2012 0:58:29 GMT 1
why A-ha and Kaisers in the Troggs Syndrome? sure A-ha's biggest hit is Take on Me? REM would qualify there as their biggest chart hits (E-bow the Letter and The Great beyond sure are not their most memorable) there's the Duffy Syndrome - your debut album is a huge success mostly on the back of your debut single, sells massively for one year. Then the sophomore album comes and underperforms. Doesn't help your voice is rating. Other examples: Mika and James Blunt. I'm sure there's loads of people with Duffy syndrome. David Gray for a start. How so? White Ladder was his 3rd or 4th album, I can't remember. But it certainly wasn't his first or even his second.
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Post by Panda on Jan 26, 2012 1:08:44 GMT 1
I'm sure there's loads of people with Duffy syndrome. David Gray for a start. How so? White Ladder was his 3rd or 4th album, I can't remember. But it certainly wasn't his first or even his second. This has already been mentioned in the thread. Many times.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 26, 2012 1:10:22 GMT 1
Not sure whose syndrome but after a massive first album your biggest hit single is the debut from the second album. Unfortunately though the album doesn't really live up to the first at all.
Alanis Morissette is an example as her biggest hit was "Thank U" from her second album. Well the one after Jagged Little Pill anyway. Perhaps too the Stone Roses with Love Spreads?
Can I list Chris De Burgh among the Chuck Berry / Stevie Wonder syndrome acts? Ok, "Missing You" wasn't particularly good either but prior to 1986 he was a credible artist.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 26, 2012 1:15:14 GMT 1
Albatross Syndrome: you have a big hit with a song that is not typical of your sound, and thus find it hard to achieve further success e.g. East Of Eden, Fiddler's Dram In the UK also Styx, although in the USA they had many other hits. And of course Foreigner were a rock band and made lots of "heavy" rock music but their biggest 2 hits including their number one were soft rock ballads.
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Post by Shireblogger on Jan 26, 2012 6:26:00 GMT 1
Kurt Cobain syndrome - release some rather average music, but die young and get transformed into some sort of mythical creative genius - see also Nick Drake, Jeff Buckley, Eddie Cochran, Tupac, Pete Doherty (probably)
Buddy Holly syndrome - release some truly awesome music which is moderately successful, but die young before people realise what a genuine talent you were, leaving them wondering what might have been - see also Jimi Hendrix, Robert Johnson, Jim Morrison
John Lennon sydrome - release some truly awesome music and live for long enough for everyone to recognise your talents, but die before you can do too much harm to your legacy and reputation - see also Bob Marley, Keith Moon, Sam Cooke, Marc Bolan
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 26, 2012 23:56:17 GMT 1
following up on Shireblogger:
Freddie Mercury syndrome - release truly awesome music and become a legend, then continue to release good music but start to be considered "dated", then die and suddenly you're a legend again. Michael Jackson too? - although not sure about him.
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Post by vastar iner on Jan 27, 2012 12:08:41 GMT 1
Nil mortuis nisi bonum. Jackson would fit, as would George Harrison. Even - whisper it - Lennon.
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Post by vastar iner on Jan 27, 2012 12:10:06 GMT 1
Or the Lilac Time, or Go-Betweens Syndromes (closely related). Keep putting out excellent stuff, for the same old people every time. Who needs new fans or chart positions above 77 anyway? Much loved. Thinking about this one, perhaps Fall Syndrome would be an appropriate name...
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