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Post by Shireblogger on Jan 27, 2012 14:00:19 GMT 1
Or the Lilac Time, or Go-Betweens Syndromes (closely related). Keep putting out excellent stuff, for the same old people every time. Who needs new fans or chart positions above 77 anyway? Much loved. Thinking about this one, perhaps Fall Syndrome would be an appropriate name... Except nothing the Fall have ever put out could be considered excellent. Occasionally diverting, sometimes wimsical, but that's about the sum of it.
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Post by thehitparade on Jan 28, 2012 14:34:16 GMT 1
I would dispute the absence of excellence in the Fall oeuvre - but neither would I call them as consistent as the Go-Betweens musically or commercially. They had a Top 10 album and three hit singles among a notorious (and of course increasing) number of releases.
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Post by vastar iner on Jan 28, 2012 22:57:39 GMT 1
Except nothing the Fall have ever put out could be considered excellent. Occasionally diverting, sometimes wimsical, but that's about the sum of it. ...for starters.
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Post by vastar iner on Mar 27, 2012 9:11:44 GMT 1
Numan Syndrome - you have a very long chart career but you never manage to recapture the success of your debut. Also: Deep Purple, Moody Blues, Black Sabbath, Herman's Hermits.
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Post by Robin on Mar 29, 2012 17:30:29 GMT 1
Albatross Syndrome: you have a big hit with a song that is not typical of your sound, and thus find it hard to achieve further success
A great example of this would be Tori Amos with "Professional Widow"
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Post by Robin on Mar 29, 2012 17:31:04 GMT 1
Numan Syndrome - you have a very long chart career but you never manage to recapture the success of your debut. Also: Deep Purple, Moody Blues, Black Sabbath, Herman's Hermits. Bjork could be mentioned here also
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Post by borneoman on Mar 29, 2012 19:11:20 GMT 1
Don't think Bjork peaked with her debut... probably with her second Post and the It's oh so Quiet song... so I think she's more of the Albatross syndrome with that particular song:)
actually I've realised there's a bunch of artists from the US that started in the 90s... all got 4/5 successfull albums, and then popularity dropped... they're still making album but they either flop or just are in for 1 wk in the top 20, and only do well in album, are not having hit singles anymore... a few would include Lenny Kravitz, Tori Amos, Sheryl Crow, Alanis Morrisette...
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 30, 2012 10:18:24 GMT 1
There's a syndrome of American and Canadian rock bands who have one big top 5 hit in the UK, then a smaller top 40 hit then disappear pretty much without a trace after that, and this was typical during the 90s.
I'll call it Spin Doctors syndrome (Two Princes followed by Little Miss Can't Be Wrong then nothing) but is also typical of Crash Test Dummies (ok they had a 3rd hit but that was an XTC cover so don't really count it), New Radicals and I think a few others.
It could go back earlier even, e.g. The Knack on a slightly smaller scale, My Sharona being the big hit, Good Girls Don't the minor follow-up, then nothing...
And they're so often hailed as the new big band.
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Post by TheThorne on Mar 30, 2012 13:09:13 GMT 1
yeh NM include Men Without hats in that list as well
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Post by greendemon on Mar 30, 2012 13:28:37 GMT 1
biffy clyro syndrome: spend the better part of a decade gradually building up a smallish but loyal fanbase making quirky, distinctive music unlike anything else around at the moment. then, the minute you become successful, put out an album which, while also very good, sounds like foo fighters.
idlewild syndrome: start out as a neo-punk/indie band, decide that somewhere along the line what you really want to be is a country/folk band, and end up making something in between that sounds a bit like dad rock and which nobody really likes.
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Post by TheThorne on Mar 30, 2012 15:24:06 GMT 1
dont really remember Idlewild having a Dad Rock period just the other two and the reason for that was 'musical differences in the band' Roddy always wanted to go the REM/Folky style but Bob left when Remote part came out as it wasnt really his thing and joined another band, allowing them to go even further in that direction. Rightly or wrongly. For me 'Live Is a Hiding Place' was their last great single and it was downhill from there.
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Post by Panda on Mar 30, 2012 15:43:34 GMT 1
I think Idlewild just grew up...
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Post by Robin on Mar 30, 2012 17:15:00 GMT 1
The same could be said for Manic Street Preachers. Two really good albums were they heralded themselves as 'generation terrorists', then came the much calmer middle of the road period of "Everything must go" etc.
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Post by vastar iner on Apr 2, 2012 21:30:29 GMT 1
Slight modification of Berry/Wonder Syndrome, for a particular genre.
Poison Syndrome: you are meant to be hard rock/metal, then you do a pathetic, ludicrous, sub-Bolton anaemic lighter-than-helium ballad with the ostensible sole aim of scoring a big hit. Also: Extreme, Whitesnake, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Aerosmith, Def Leppard, GnR.
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Post by Earl Purple on Apr 2, 2012 21:59:10 GMT 1
Slight modification of Berry/Wonder Syndrome, for a particular genre. Poison Syndrome: you are meant to be hard rock/metal, then you do a pathetic, ludicrous, sub-Bolton anaemic lighter-than-helium ballad with the ostensible sole aim of scoring a big hit. Also: Extreme, Whitesnake, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Aerosmith, Def Leppard, GnR. Not sure about that, rock bands also did the occasional soft track. The problem is that US radio stations loved them so much that so often that became their biggest hit. Or in the case of Foreigner, their two biggest hits. "Waiting For A Girl Like You" and "I Want To Know What Love Is" really was not typical of their sound and anyone who went along to their gigs thinking it was might have been disappointed (or pleasantly surprised!). You might even say Stairway To Heaven was a bit "soft" for Led Zeppelin... I would agree with you on that list with regards to Aerosmith -I Don't Want To Miss A Thing was dreadful and they didn't even write it, Diane Warren did. Unlike "Walk This Way" through which they probably found fame in the UK due to Run DMC's cover, only after which there was a bit of interest in them later for "Love In An Elevator". GnR may have had higher chart positions in 1991-92 but Sweet Child Of Mine still remains their "classic".
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Post by vastar iner on Apr 2, 2012 22:28:47 GMT 1
At least "Stairway" was not written with an eye on the singles charts. It sort of fits in with the general oeuvre and tenor of Led Zep.
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Post by vastar iner on Apr 8, 2012 20:06:47 GMT 1
Oldfield Syndrome – you have a great success, and when your hits dry up you just repackage that to re-emerge from obscurity. Other exponents: Meatloaf, Gerry Marsden. We can now add Ian Anderson to that. (Heaven 17 also exemplify this.)
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Post by vastar iner on Apr 9, 2012 13:15:16 GMT 1
Beat Syndrome: you get your biggest hit with the last (or almost the last) single of a lengthy career. Also: Linda Ronstadt, Sister Sledge, KC & The Sunshine Band, Peter Paul & Mary, Proclaimers (sort of).
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Post by vastar iner on May 29, 2012 22:40:40 GMT 1
Katona Syndrome: you leave an act (or the act leaves you) just before its biggest hit, so a replacement has to be drafted in for things like videos. See also: Renee (of And Renato), Brian (of And Michael), Reynolds (of Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds), all of Tubeway Army, Paul Da Vinci (of The Rubettes).
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Post by Da Quen B on Jun 2, 2012 19:17:13 GMT 1
Kurt Cobain syndrome - release some rather average music, but die young and get transformed into some sort of mythical creative genius - see also Nick Drake, Jeff Buckley, Eddie Cochran, Tupac, Pete Doherty (probably) Also applies to that VILE drunken junkie skag headed manky creature Wino
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