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Post by borneoman on Apr 8, 2013 18:06:14 GMT 1
Are there any Margaret Thatcher-related songs that have been released thru the years? I can think of a few... Sinead O´Connor - Black Boys on Mopeds (Margaret Thatcher on tv/ Shocked by the deaths that took place in Beijing / It seems strange that she should be offended / The same orders are given by her)
Frank Turner - Thatcher F**ed the Kids
Morrissey - Margaret on the Guillotine
any others?
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Post by suedehead on Apr 8, 2013 18:08:45 GMT 1
Evis Costello - Tramp The Dirt Down The Beat - Stand Down Margaret
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Apr 8, 2013 18:13:15 GMT 1
V.I.M - Maggie's Last Party
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Post by raliverpool on Apr 8, 2013 18:25:49 GMT 1
Billy Bragg - Between The Wars Kirsty MacColl - Free World The Style Council - Walls Come Tumbling Down Ewan MacColl - Daddy, What Did You Do In the Strike Robert Wyatt (cover version of Elvis Costello penned) - Shipbuilding Mogwai - George Square Thatcher Death Party Alexei Sayle - Get Me Mrs Thatcher
Two songs about Thatcherism:
Pet Shop Boys - Opportunities (Let's Make Lots Of Money) Harry Enfield - Loadsamoney (Doin' Up The House)
Or you could go old school regarding Thatcher "The Milk Snatcher"
Herman's Hermits - No Milk Today
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Post by Shireblogger on Apr 8, 2013 20:13:22 GMT 1
A significant proportion of both of UB40's first 2 albums, "Signing Off" and "Present Arms" was anti-Thatcherism, most notably the single "One In Ten".
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Post by vastar iner on Apr 9, 2013 18:06:59 GMT 1
Glen Matlock said that Thatcher was the truest beneficiary of punk. Punk's cri de coeur against the descent of seventies Britain was a visual manifestation that persuaded many that an Iron Lady was required to beat against the tide of disaster.
So it's perhaps fitting that the best song about Margaret Thatcher is a punk one.
Although I'm not entirely sure the sentiments are serious.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 21:36:26 GMT 1
"Oh my darling oh my darling oh my darling heseltine, you're a tosser you're a tosser and you're just a tory swine"
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Post by thehitparade on Apr 10, 2013 19:31:37 GMT 1
I'd forgotten about 'Celebrate The Day After You' by the Blow Monkeys and Curtis Mayfield, but by the looks of the iTunes chart, so's everyone else.
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Post by thehitparade on Apr 10, 2013 19:34:19 GMT 1
Also Mrs Hitparade tweeted this one this morning, from the thinking person's Elvis Costello:
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Post by Earl Purple on Apr 10, 2013 19:35:54 GMT 1
It doesn't say the artist name there but it's Hefner.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2013 19:08:58 GMT 1
Has anyone suggested "Ghost Town" by The Specials yet?
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Post by Whitneyfan on Apr 13, 2013 9:50:41 GMT 1
I've got a CD given away with Mojo magazine one month called Mojo presents Panic which has a song credited to Wah featuring Pete Wylie, and it's called 'The Day That Margaret Thatcher Dies (A Party Song)'
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Post by Whitneyfan on Apr 13, 2013 9:52:18 GMT 1
Oh and there's 'No Clause 28' by Boy George, which was a song in protest of the bigoted law that Maggie Thatcher brought in in the 80's.
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Post by vya on Apr 13, 2013 11:39:10 GMT 1
"Life At A Top People's Health Farm", possibly the Style Council's weakest single (their atrocious take on "Promised Land" apart), was a kind of tale of Thatcherite go-getting achievement and entrepreneurship.
Mildly sarcastic, from this group, obviously (although...I vaguely recall that Paul Weller was adamantly *pro*-Thatcher in 1979), but it does include the line (such in the persona of someone who has made wealth by setting up and running the health farm of the song title) "Thank you Margaret Thatcher, May you never come to harm"
The Blow Monkeys (with Sylvia Tella) also did "Choice?", which was a pretty direct (and, unlike "Celebrate The Day After You", even, memorable) critique of numerous aspects of Thatcher's policies "It's your choice?....that's no choice at all. With your market forces and your 28 clauses...."
"Good Morning Britain" by Aztec Camera and Mick Jones was also a fairly long attack on various policies of Thatcher's Government, although a little more general rather than personal.
I'm surprised I can't think of overtly (or, even, implicitly) pro-Thatcher pop songs. Granted she was unpopular in other parts of the UK, but I lived in Essex for the whole of her premiership, where was was (and still is) admired, even loved. The less said about Depeche Mode's quasi-"political" lyrics from the mid-80s the better, though.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Apr 13, 2013 13:05:29 GMT 1
Communards - Breadline Britain The The - Heartland The Style Council -Money Go Round Billy Bragg - Which Side Are You On?
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Post by raliverpool on Apr 13, 2013 13:45:58 GMT 1
More Thatcher "tunes":
Tears For Fears - Sowing The Seeds Of Love ”Politician granny with your high ideals; Have you no idea how the majority feels: So without love, and a promised land: We’re fools to the rules of a Government plan: Kick out the Style, bring back The Jam” Fine Young Cannibals - Blue Style Council - The Lodgers (She Was Only a Shopkeeper’s Daughter) AR Kane - Baby Milksnatcher Terry Edwards & The Scapegoats - Margaret Thatcher We Still Hate You The Shamen - (She's) sh*tting On Britain Duran Duran - Meet El Presidente The Jam - A Town Called Malice UB40 - Madame Medusa New Model Army - Spirit of the Falklands Pink Floyd – The Post War Dream Pink Floyd – Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert Pink Floyd – The Fletcher Memorial Home Pink Floyd – Not Now John The Levellers - Battle Of The Beanfield The Levellers - Sell Out Renaud – Madame Thatcher The Men They Couldn’t Hang – Ironmasters… “And oh the Iron b*st*rd – She still gets her way!” Christy Moore - Margaret Thatcher Martin Carthy - Abeggin I Will Go "I am a Victorian value I’m enterprise poverty / Completely invisible to the state and a joy to Mrs T" Aimee Mann – You’re With Stupid Now Tin Machine - Maggie's Farm (live) (where David Bowie changed the Bob Dylan lyrics to include references to the Poll Tax and her lack of compassion) Human League – The World Before Last David Diamond – Some Talk Of Ronald Reagan Deborah Holland – Pinochet and Margaret Thatcher Thomas Dolby – May The Cube Be With You Braintax – Decade on Panorama Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine – Evil Ragga Twins – Iron Lady Attila The Stockbroker – Maggots 1 Maggie 0 Inner City Unit - Blue Rinse Haggard Robot The Cancer Detectives - Confessions of A Greengrocer’s Daughter The Neurotics – Fighting Times Newtown Neurotics – Kick Out the Tories Punk Legends Riot Squad - f*** the Tories Kitchens of Distinction - Margaret’s Injection The Grief Brothers - Goodbye Margaret
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Post by thehitparade on Apr 13, 2013 16:14:55 GMT 1
Isn't the Tin Machine version of 'Maggie's Farm' based on the Specials cover though? Obviously that doesn't mention the poll tax, but they deserve some credit for the concept.
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Post by vastar iner on Apr 13, 2013 17:12:53 GMT 1
I'm surprised I can't think of overtly (or, even, implicitly) pro-Thatcher pop songs. Not that surprising, given that most political popular music is rebelling against the status quo, rather than rejoicing in how everything's OK. As Yes Prime Minister pointed out, the only plays more boring than those criticizing the government are those praising the government. (I'm sure Max Bygraves did one mind.) Plus there's the general trend that artists tend to the Left. Perhaps because they're more likely to get subsidies from Labour than Conservative. Perhaps because those on the Right tend to prefer business to leisure. It could be argued that any song that evokes personal freedom against the dictates of society though is on the libertarian side of the divide. Which would include most (anarcho-)punk.
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Post by vya on Apr 13, 2013 18:58:09 GMT 1
I'm surprised I can't think of overtly (or, even, implicitly) pro-Thatcher pop songs. Not that surprising, given that most political popular music is rebelling against the status quo, rather than rejoicing in how everything's OK. As Yes Prime Minister pointed out, the only plays more boring than those criticizing the government are those praising the government. (I'm sure Max Bygraves did one mind.) Plus there's the general trend that artists tend to the Left. Perhaps because they're more likely to get subsidies from Labour than Conservative. Perhaps because those on the Right tend to prefer business to leisure. It could be argued that any song that evokes personal freedom against the dictates of society though is on the libertarian side of the divide. Which would include most (anarcho-)punk. Indeed, this is all true (and certainly applied all the more strongly by the time that the Government of Thatcher was really the established order). But! there was something radical and rebellious about Thatcher (who in many regards was far closer to being a classical liberal than she was a traditional conservative - although there were elements of that too), and at least certain of the values and policies that she promoted, that clearly had some kind of relationship (ambigious, but present, certainly) with libertarianism and individualism - although, it almost certainly was the case that the sort of people that this side of her appealed to were more inclined to start up their own business, rather than write songs or create art... There was something there of the rebel there about her - - and she really did smash "the old order" in all manner of ways: her government was close to revolutionary in its mandate to "roll back the frontiers of the state". Maybe it's all too geekily political (but maybe no more so than anything Billy Bragg wrote about...) - but I think there are themes there (quite possibly of a mostly destructive nature...) that an artist with sufficient imagination could have got their teeth into and made something interesting of... Although...yes....there is nothing more tedious and unengaging than "pro-government art" as a general rule...
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Post by thehitparade on Apr 13, 2013 22:37:42 GMT 1
I suppose there can be an element of groupthink going on in pop (as elsewhere of course), with people inclined to write songs about what it's fashionable to write about; and that means that even pop stars who sympathise(d) with Thatcherism wouldn't necessarily be willing to write about, even if they didn't think it was the status quo. Which is why we started this thread with Frank Turner, whose actual political views seem pretty close to hers, writing an anti-Thatch song.
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