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Post by Whitneyfan on Apr 15, 2013 16:46:54 GMT 1
Maybe it's too much to expect 80's stars to chart nowadays, but there are some really strong comeback singles around (some are as good as anything in the top ten) and it's really frustrating to see them doing nothing chart-wise. For example:
Alison Moyet - When I was your girl
OMD - Metroland
Deacon Blue - Turn
Belinda Carlisle - Sun (not actually released over here yet but I don't expect it to do anything if/when it is)
Madness - How can I tell you (Never knew her name was great too)
Texas - The conversation
Joe Cocker - Fire it up
Simple Minds - Broken glass park
Rod Stewart - It's over
Toploader - Turn it around
Does anyone else like these, or know any more which are worth checking out?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 17:08:46 GMT 1
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Post by Shireblogger on Apr 15, 2013 18:09:28 GMT 1
Just a suspicion, but the most likely fans of the 80s acts you've listed will probably be going straight to the albums, and have long since ceased to buy singles. Certainly recent albums by David Bowie, Depeche Mode and OMD have all performed quite strongly, and may well go on to outsell previous offerings, despite the depressed state of the albums market.
(I'm basing this on my own behaviour, and don't have much supporting evidence.)
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Post by TheThorne on Apr 15, 2013 18:24:34 GMT 1
Simple Minds is excellent and really liked the new Deacon blue album, 'turn' is actually the 3rd single. Like OMD as well. See Johnny Hates Jazz are back as well they are on A list at Radio 2
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Post by wonderwall on Apr 15, 2013 18:29:15 GMT 1
Simple minds a really great band check out there early stuff top band
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Post by smokeyb on Apr 15, 2013 21:26:14 GMT 1
On a similar sort of topic, we were just discussing this at work. When I was much younger I was a big David Bowie fan, along with many others back in the day, and even though I am much older I still am a huge fan and bought nearly all his albums including his new one. But the sales of his new album pale into insignificance compared to his sales back in the 70's. So we were wondering what happened to all those fans of yesteryear. Have they moved to other artists,do they just not like him as a singer anymore, have they stopped buying music altogether? Its not just Bowie, you could say the same about any 80's artists like Human League or Duran Duran, 90's artists like Suede etc who have all released stuff in the last few years, but their sales are woefull compared to when they were first out.
To me if you are a serious fan, then why do you stop buying their music,maybe I'm just being nostalgic but I still buy a lot of music by the artists I grew up with even today, but I guess I'm in a minority.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 21:47:57 GMT 1
I think one of the reasons is the decline of mainstream airplay, specialist stations like Radio 2 play those artists, but the commercial hit music stations sector just focus on the Top 40. Even artists who they used to play a few years ago like Madonna and Kylie fail to get airplay now.
10 years ago Madonna's MDNA would have been all over the radio.
Of course this isn't the only factor. Growing up is another factor, and the fact that it's young people who buy singles these days.
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Post by -Big Dan- on Apr 15, 2013 21:54:28 GMT 1
Simple minds a really great band check out there early stuff top band Yes, New Gold Dream is an absolutely brilliant album. |
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Post by vya on Apr 15, 2013 22:25:03 GMT 1
Hmm, a few acts I really liked back in the 80s. Let's see what they have now:
Early OMD (up to - of course, "Dazzle Ships") were sometimes; even, often; close to the sublime....but that new track, while not unpleasant...is unremarkable. And for a band long past commercial success, for anyone to take much notice, they'd really need (a) an immense amount of luck and (b) something far more remarkable than that new single....
(That said: I saw Paul Humphreys live a few weeks ago, performing alongside Claudia Brucken. Their live show was immeasurably better - in terms of energy and excitement - than the recorded versions of the more recent Claudia Brucken songs they were playing. So maybe it would work better live than in this rather dull too-polished recording...)
Deacon Blue: not bad at all, on good form. Just a pity that their style of music is now more or less ignored by all but their most devoted fans. Much, much better than some of their drumbeat-laden stuff from the early 90s,too...
Belinda Carlisle: not sure about the mid-90s rave sounds at the beginning...and the song is really rather generic and dull, too much hands-in-the-air. Really almost demeaningly so, actually, to someone who put out some really kind of interesting and characterful pop singles way back when (and that's not even taking into account the Go-Gos stuff), even with quite mainstream American FM pop-rock songwriters and producers, and who has presumably matured and experienced much since then. This is dreadful, actually, quite, quite dreadful and undignified, a big disappointment.
Alison Moyet: her voice is still so characterful. The song is (quite) a bit better than OK rather than absolutely outstanding, but the performance is superior. The video almost makes me miss living in Southend, too... Not a classic like "This House", but still, really, a cut above. Would happily go to see her in concert actually.
- gosh there's a John Betjeman link between OMD and Moyet too. The man who did much to promote Metroland (while living a stone's throw from where I am now, in somewhere decidedly small-town and not suburban)...while one of the two trains on the Southend Pier railway, as seen in the Moyet video, is named after him.
Definitely can't bring myself to listen to Toploader, Johnny Hates Jazz or New Kids...
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Post by vastar iner on Apr 15, 2013 22:44:41 GMT 1
Have they moved to other artists,do they just not like him as a singer anymore, have they stopped buying music altogether? I think there are a number of factors. 1. More stuff to spend money on. Buying a record was a big deal in 1981. What else could I spend pocket money on? Matchbox cars. That was about it. These days there would be about a billion apps, let alone Xbox games et al, that people could buy. And that's just kids. 2. Publicity. In the past it was easier to get across that you had something out. 3 channels, still primitive radio, lots of music on television, so it was difficult to avoid that e.g. Manhattan Transfer had something out. Now the onus is on the listener to find out that e.g. Deacon Blue have something out. 3. Moving on. People get comfortable with the stuff from back in the day. If they want something new, it has to be resolutely new, not a re-heating of a familiar act. And there's the change in fashion. OMD lost 90% sales from Architecture & Morality to Dazzle Ships. Adam Ant probably something similar. So their massive sales were the anomaly. 4. Availability. Everyone's back catalogue is always out there. So newer albums will have a bigger job to get people to spend. If you haven't got Pet Sounds, you can buy that today - and if you do that why buy Simple Minds? 5. Streaming &c. Less need to buy anyway. |
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Post by borneoman on Apr 16, 2013 8:29:19 GMT 1
but Alison Moyet, Texas, Rod Stewart haven´t been releaed yet, think they will do good
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Post by TheThorne on Apr 16, 2013 12:53:38 GMT 1
Singles have been released which is what we are talking about , sure they all will be top 20 albums at least for 1 week
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Post by borneoman on Apr 17, 2013 6:49:22 GMT 1
oops sorry I misunderstood, got the impression all the last posters were talking about albums
yes I guess fans of "old" artists making a comeback are not the downloading type... and new generations are not gonna discover them cos radios don´t playlist the comeback single...
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Post by TheThorne on Apr 17, 2013 7:06:25 GMT 1
Totally most of them are playlisted by Radio 2 though, I wonder why there isnt a commercial station that plays new mainstream pop by older artists its not like any of these songs would offend or scare of listeners like some of the stuff Radio 1 plays.
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Post by borneoman on Apr 17, 2013 7:10:32 GMT 1
but radio 2 listeners don´t buy singles, it´s capitol and radio 1 that you need for that
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Post by borneoman on Apr 18, 2013 7:12:32 GMT 1
just checked Radio 2´s playlist and they´re playing virtually all the songs from the 1st post  radio 2 has really zero effect on the singles chart  A-List Agnetha Fältskog - When You Really Loved Someone Alison Moyet - When I Was Your Girl Blue - Hurt Lovers Bonnie Tyler - Believe In Me Hurts - Blind Johnny Hates Jazz - Magnetized Michael Bublé - It’s A Beautiful Day Rod Stewart - It’s Over Stereophonics - Graffiti on The Train Thea Gilmore - Love Came Looking For Me B-List Caro Emerald - Tangled Up Dido - End Of Night Emma Stevens - Once Gabrielle Aplin - Panic Cord Jenn Bostic - Not Yet Joe Cocker - I Come In Peace P!nk Feat. Nate Ruess - Just Give Me A Reason Primal Scream - It’s Alright, It’s OK Stooshe - Slip Texas - The Conversation Tunde Baiyewu - Diamond in A Rock |
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radio 2 has really zero effect on the singles chart 