SheriffFatman
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Post by SheriffFatman on Feb 6, 2018 2:02:05 GMT 1
Thanks to the wonders of social media, I have been challenged by an actual genuine member of Frankie Goes To Hollywood to justify my refusal to completely hate Kanye West. He said he's not a "proper musician" and referred to his headline set at Glastonbury as "The day the music died". I didn't realise who he was at first, but when it was explained to me the following was my reply. I just wondered if Haven thought I did myself (and Kanye!) justice?
"Now that Peter has explained who you are (sorry!) I’m inclined to completely change direction and just mention my genuine awe and admiration for what you’ve achieved, but for the sake of integrity I suppose I’d better keep digging my hole...
I have no idea whether or not Kanye is a proper musician, as in whether he personally plays instruments in the studio when his music is recorded, I haven’t got a clue. I’m just judging the end product and can see clearly that he has put his name to some excellent singles. Homecoming is a wistful tribute to a long forgotten childhood akin to Summer Of ‘69; Runaway is a haunting, epic, self-loathing anthem which The Sunday Times declared the 93rd best song of all time; FourFiveSeconds with Rihanna and Paul McCartney of all people actually got intelligent acoustic guitar music into the top ten for the first time in years. I could go I but I doubt you’d want me to.
It is fascinating, ironic and slightly depressing that the post-punk generation of musicians and fans, who were brought up on bands like The Sex Pistols, The Clash and The Ramones, with their stated intention of radically changing popular music and blowing away all that came before, have now become just as curmudgeonly and stuck in their ways as the people they were rebelling against. I am 40 and I was led to believe the whole point of bands like that was that they were, in an establishment sense, not proper musicians. Now the exact same words are used to belittle more recent artists, just because they sound different. Happily, people 20 or more years younger than me are taking absolutely no notice and recording, buying and streaming whatever they want. Long may it last."
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Post by Mic1812 on Feb 6, 2018 16:42:10 GMT 1
Ahh .......... Peter Gill i presume is the guy from Frankie Goes To Hollywood
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Post by raliverpool on Feb 6, 2018 17:54:38 GMT 1
Are you sure (this is not another Roger Taylor scenario) it is not the Sheffield born drummer from of The Glitter Band, Saxon and Motörhead of the same name?
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Post by o on Feb 6, 2018 18:16:08 GMT 1
FGTH didn't play their instruments anyway, so I'm not sure he's even in a position to call other musicians. Kanye has done about three good songs to my ears and some godawful tripe.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Feb 6, 2018 18:25:35 GMT 1
Kanye uses a lot of samples so the music is already there. Then he does his "thing" And passes it off as his own. Not a fan of the genre either and certainly not a fan of him as a person so yeah I never looked into it any deeper.
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TheThorne
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Post by TheThorne on Feb 6, 2018 18:53:54 GMT 1
FGTH didn't play their instruments anyway, so I'm not sure he's even in a position to call other musicians. Kanye has done about three good songs to my ears and some godawful tripe. That is exactly what I was going to say and really Frankie didn't have much more than three good songs either out of their 2 albums. |
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Post by Jordan on Feb 6, 2018 19:27:49 GMT 1
As far as I'm concerned Kanye has put out a hell of a lot more than a few good songs, his albums have been solid in places too. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is easily among the greatest bodies of work put out in this century, and widely acclaimed as such as well.
I understand not everyone will be able to appreciate it, in the same way that I just CAN't appreciate PJ Harvey.
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SheriffFatman
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Post by SheriffFatman on Feb 7, 2018 1:28:14 GMT 1
It’s actually the guitarist Brian Nash, it really is him too. I have a lot of Liverpool connections on Facebook as I have family there, he’s a friend of a friend.
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Post by o on Feb 7, 2018 15:59:45 GMT 1
Had a look at his singles discog and came up with these I like from his vast catalogue, 2 of which he only raps on.
Gold digger
Stronger
All of the lights
American boy
E.T.
4 5 seconds
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borneoman
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Post by borneoman on Feb 7, 2018 16:16:32 GMT 1
I think he's overated but he's released two singles that are a 10/10: Love lockdown Heartless the rest I don't care, never was a fan of Gold Digger, and some of his big hits rely too much on samples (Stronger). His later stuff is pretty week especially that 3,4,5 seconds track, hasn't done anything wow in a while but FGTH only has 2 good somgs (Relax, Thw power of love), so they're even  |
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