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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 7, 2018 11:42:47 GMT 1
A lot of people seem to think Radiohead weren't brit pop, not sure why?? Those who think britpop was our answer to grunge would discount Radiohead as their sound was more grunge-derived. Those like me who simply saw britpop as restoring bands making real pop music to their rightful place, fighting against all the dance and boy-bands around at the time would consider Radiohead part of that. Carter USM during their "Worry Bomb" period could be considered britpop. So let's party on dudes and buy some booze, go downtown and get tattoos... Besides, if "Parklife" is britpop then "Glam Rock Cops" must be too. Has a very similar structure.
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Post by SheriffFatman on Mar 7, 2018 17:24:46 GMT 1
I resisted mentioning Carter USM for fear of sounding obsessed, but they were still making brilliant, albeit slightly less successful, music during the period we’re looking at.
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 7, 2018 17:55:32 GMT 1
And lyrically they sing a lot about Britain. I was a big fan too, and bought all their albums, even the mini-album "A World Without Dave" and also "I Blame The Government". "Worry Bomb" is actually my favourite and was my #1 of album of 1995, above Oasis (based partly on the fact that Worry Bomb is lyrically far superior).
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Post by borneoman on Mar 8, 2018 7:55:05 GMT 1
I think some people are too elastic with the definition of britpop, for me Carter are not
I wouldn't include Brimful of asha's remix either, for me that's dance, but funnily it's track #1 in this Brits compilation I have... but for instance they also have Skunk Anansie, which are too rock, just because a band it's from UK and released in 1995 it doesn't make it instantly brit pop
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Post by Shireblogger on Mar 8, 2018 8:20:30 GMT 1
I feel the need to put in a word for Supergrass. (Yes, I know several of you have listed some of their songs on your lists).
For me, they were the best of the rest, after the 3 big hitters - Oasis, Blur & Pulp. Each of their albums had a markedly different sound, which maybe means only their first (and maybe their second) were really Britpop. Their musicianship and desire to experiment certainly sets them apart from most of their contemporaries. Their fourth (2002) LP, "Life On Other Planets" was the best glam rock album since 1974.
Some of their singles were amongst the absolute best of the genre, especially "Alright" which is a definite Top 5 Britpop track for me.
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Post by SheriffFatman on Mar 12, 2018 13:23:03 GMT 1
Are Shampoo allowed? They were always in the NME, and in the Jolly Mixer In Camden. Delicious is a Britpop classic.
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Post by borneoman on Mar 12, 2018 15:21:23 GMT 1
then Spice Girls too
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 12, 2018 15:27:02 GMT 1
Did Shampoo ever play a rock festival?
If not a rock festival, did they play live gigs at all and at what kind of venue?
Spice Girls were not britpop, they were manufactured.
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Post by borneoman on Mar 12, 2018 15:28:12 GMT 1
exactly the same as Shampoo, that was the point, none are britpop
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Post by Whitneyfan on Mar 12, 2018 16:05:27 GMT 1
I always saw Shampoo as just pop.
I dug out my old NME Britpop special yesterday and they have it starting at 1990, and also included artists like The Chemical Brothers, who I definitely wouldn't have classed as Britpop.
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Post by borneoman on Mar 12, 2018 17:03:01 GMT 1
agree NME seems to class any UK band that released something in the 90s as Brit pop and that's wrong bands like Prodigy, Underworld, Faithless, Chemical brothers all are dance, electronica but not britpop
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Post by SheriffFatman on Mar 13, 2018 17:29:12 GMT 1
Shampoo were independent, exciting, lively, noisy, feminist, a genuine threat to all types of the establishment around them - school, the authorities, the music industry, their parents, older pop stars.
The Spice Girls seemed a bit corporate but kind of cool when they released Wannabe, then as soon as their management realised there was money in it they descended into releasing absolutely monotonous boring bullshit about how much they wanted to sleep with their boyfriends and how they loved their Mums, and had the cheek to try giving the impression there was some sort of ideology behind the sh*te they were pedalling by going round shouting the name of Shampoo's second album.
I realise though that unlike, say, punk, Britpop wasn't all about attitude, it was largely about how the bands sounded. As such, please will anyone who thinks Shampoo and the Spice Girls are in any way comparable have a listen to Shampoo's second single and tell me which Spice Girl's song it sounds like?
2 Become 1 maybe?
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