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Post by vastar iner on Mar 9, 2023 23:47:52 GMT 1
Looking at the Abba charting singles, the only duff one is "I Have A Dream". Emetically saccharine.
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Post by Whitneyfan on Mar 10, 2023 8:47:12 GMT 1
Queen's 'Body Language' is pretty dire for them.
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Post by vastar iner on Mar 10, 2023 9:19:03 GMT 1
Beatles - "Let It Be". Questionable philosophy (heading into a car crash and wondering whether to push the brake?), about eight actual words, and issued almost to say "that's it, we've got nothing more", although I think chronologically it's pre-Abbey Road.
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 10, 2023 10:15:19 GMT 1
I agree with some of those choices, in particular "I Have A Dream" and "Body Language" which are those act's worst-performing songs in my chart.
From Morrissey's category (up to the end of 2009 at least) his worst single was "Roy's Keen". Vauxhall & I was his best album but "Southpaw Grammar" and "Maladjusted" were both awful albums at the time of Britpop which might have favoured him, like it did Paul Weller, if only he'd actually released something good during it. There was then a long break and a return with "You Are The Quarry" with 4 great singles on it, particularly the second one.
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Post by Whitneyfan on Mar 10, 2023 10:47:29 GMT 1
I think 'I have a dream' is just as good as ABBA's other hits. I suppose Westlife have tainted it for a lot of people.
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 10, 2023 11:05:54 GMT 1
No, Westlife didn't taint it, they covered a song that wasn't that good in the first place.
And as some mentioned Stereophonics, the ones that didn't appeal to me that much was "The Bartender And The Thief". I just found that one a bit shouty, or at least that was my reaction in 1998 when it first came out.
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Post by vastar iner on Mar 10, 2023 13:13:42 GMT 1
Most of Abba's songs had a bit of bite, a bit of moxie. References to Napoleon, Spanish wars, the risks of unfettered capitalism, phenomenal bitterness and so on. "I Have A Dream" is a bloody nursery rhyme.
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Post by greendemon on Mar 10, 2023 13:26:13 GMT 1
No, Westlife didn't taint it, they covered a song that wasn't that good in the first place. And as some mentioned Stereophonics, the ones that didn't appeal to me that much was "The Bartender And The Thief". I just found that one a bit shouty, or at least that was my reaction in 1998 when it first came out. That was the first song I ever heard by them and what got me into them 'Just Looking' was my favourite from that album, though. And when I went back and found Word Gets Around I thought that album was much better.
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Post by Good Old Days on Jul 30, 2023 9:25:55 GMT 1
Bucks Fizz - New Beginning (Mamba Seyra) Possibly it's only one Fizz song, which I dislike.
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Post by TheThorne on Jul 31, 2023 9:43:36 GMT 1
For this I think we will have to say Heart - ‘All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You’. It actually killed my fandom of the band and I never bought ‘Brigade’. The song is complete cheese on a stick and the lyrics are super cringe but over the years I have accepted it and I love ‘Brigade’ just that damn song spoiled them for me in 1990 . ‘We walked in a garden, we planted a tree’ sigh Ann sounds amazing as always though.
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Post by SheriffFatman on Jul 31, 2023 10:43:58 GMT 1
I know Oasis are not universally loved these days, but as a teenager I was obsessed with their first two albums and then D'You Know What I Mean came along. It was astonishingly bad compared to everything they'd released up until that point. Whiney and far too long with production which sounded like they just had no idea what to do next but felt under enormous pressure to do something. I'm not sure it really counts for this thread because they've done plenty of stinkers since too (and the odd good one), but those first two albums still stand up as kind of mid-90s period pieces though.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jul 31, 2023 11:37:02 GMT 1
For me it was "Go Let It Out" that was the major disappointment by Oasis and "Who Feels Love" was even worse. But "Go Let It Out" felt purely formulaic.
And Pulp "Help The Aged" but then they got worse (Party Hard?) with "A Little Soul" being the only decent track on it
As for Carter USM, "Lenny And Terence" was pretty awful..
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Post by raliverpool on Jul 31, 2023 21:22:26 GMT 1
Blondie - Islands Of Lost Souls
A song so awful the rest of the band refused to perform this Calypso reggae pop ditty on a Dutch TV show, leaving Debbie Harry out on her own, and looking deeply embarrassed, or wasted, with some cringe-worthy "dancing" and even she gave up lip-syncing to it near the end. The band would split up shortly afterwards for over 15 years.
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Post by raliverpool on Jul 31, 2023 21:30:57 GMT 1
With hindsight this was clearly the moment U2 were all done. They might have been the world's leading rock band for over 20 years, but when they started being inspired by The Killers; Queens Of The Stone Age; & Coldplay; with a verse which sounds not dissimilar to Elvis Costello's Pump It Up. Then with hindsight they really should have followed REM's lead and split up "due to creative similarities" to maintain their legacy.
U2 - Get On Your Boots
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Post by vastar iner on Jul 31, 2023 21:45:37 GMT 1
For this I think we will have to say Heart - ‘All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You’. Caused a bit of controversy at the time, as AIDS was causing a hoo-ha and this was kicking against the pr**ks, so to speak.
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Post by raliverpool on Jul 31, 2023 21:56:41 GMT 1
For this I think we will have to say Heart - ‘All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You’. Caused a bit of controversy at the time, as AIDS was causing a hoo-ha and this was kicking against the pr**ks, so to speak. I remember at the time it had been (co-)written by producer Robert John "Mutt" Lange. It had been rejected by Cher; Stevie Nicks; & Don Henley, and the Wilson sisters promoted the track by slagging it off saying their record label hoisted it upon them.
It got stuck at USA #2 behind Madonna's Vogue; but went one better in Australia & Canada; and would Be Heart's final US top 10 hit.
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Post by SheriffFatman on Jul 31, 2023 22:11:18 GMT 1
Just thought, maybe it’s because of our age, but nobody’s mentioned My Ding-A-Ling yet, have they? That’s surely the original example of this, it’s where the whole concept of crap songs by great artists first took off.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jul 31, 2023 22:30:25 GMT 1
Just thought, maybe it’s because of our age, but nobody’s mentioned My Ding-A-Ling yet, have they? That’s surely the original example of this, it’s where the whole concept of crap songs by great artists first took off. The song was about 20 years old at the time though. Dave Bartholomew actually wrote and recorded it originally and Chuck Berry wrote new lyrics to the verses. As on the whole Dave Bartholomew was a great songwriter, often writing together with Fats Domino, I guess it wasn't where "crap songs by great artists" started. At least not in 1972.
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Post by SheriffFatman on Aug 1, 2023 0:25:51 GMT 1
Just thought, maybe it’s because of our age, but nobody’s mentioned My Ding-A-Ling yet, have they? That’s surely the original example of this, it’s where the whole concept of crap songs by great artists first took off. The song was about 20 years old at the time though. Dave Bartholomew actually wrote and recorded it originally and Chuck Berry wrote new lyrics to the verses. As on the whole Dave Bartholomew was a great songwriter, often writing together with Fats Domino, I guess it wasn't where "crap songs by great artists" started. At least not in 1972. The fact that Chuck Berry’s version is a cover doesn’t change anything, does it? It’s still an astoundingly bad record by an artist who’d mostly done astoundingly good records.
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Post by vastar iner on Aug 1, 2023 8:29:21 GMT 1
Although it does show how good Chuck Berry was at dealing with an audience without singing, it's really a stand-up routine.
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