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Post by Earl Purple on Jun 24, 2024 11:23:40 GMT 1
Typical Scotland just when you think they might just make it,they self destruct. How was 2 points ever going to get you through? Just a shame Hungary waited 90 minutes to go for it! My son was in a Budapest park with 1000s of Hungary fans watching it on a big screen, to say the scenes were mental at the end when that goal went in is an understatement! He loved every second of it! 2 points would have been enough to get through if: - Croatia and Albania both lose tonight against Italy and Spain (both teams would finish on 1 point) - Czech Republic and Georgia both lose against Turkey and Portugal (leaving them both also on 1 point). in which case 2 points would be in the "top 4". As none of those 4 teams would have a -4 goal difference if they drew, they'd have to all lose. I think Scotland will regret "going for it" if the above actually happens, so maybe we should hope at least one of those 4 gets a result. Hungary have 3 points and -3 goal difference. Poland are out even if they beat France because head-to-head record comes first and they lost to Austria (so even if Austria lose to the Netherlands by a big scoreline, Poland will be bottom)
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Post by Panda on Jun 24, 2024 12:13:54 GMT 1
Surely it's better to go for it and try and win the game than get a draw and hope no fewer than 4 results go your way.
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Post by o on Jun 24, 2024 12:37:31 GMT 1
This was my point, especially as apparently the manager had said they weren't even considering going through that way, but obviously after the way Scotland played, he was lying. It wont be popular, but it wasn't a penalty, they guy is trying to protect the ball as he sees the defenders challenge coming. So he's looking to initiate contact, which to me means no penalty. What puzzles me is why not take a touch and then shoot and score, rather than looking for contact and hope you score the penalty? Multiple facial fractures for Varga, but hopefully he can make a full recovery.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jun 24, 2024 13:58:56 GMT 1
Yeah he went from running full speed to stopping whilst letting the ball bounce free out of his control, I don't buy the stonewall penalty claims, it was obstruction by the Scottish fella if anything, he stopped being interested in the ball or running through on goal and decided to just stop and jump in the path of the Hungarian guy who was in his right to maintain his speed and direction of his run
BUT it is funny that after 38 years of Scottish fans wearing Argentina shirts, signing songs about Maradona and how great Argentina is because they once cheated England it was an Argentinian ref that stiffed them lol
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jun 24, 2024 20:12:41 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Jun 24, 2024 20:15:36 GMT 1
Spain take an early lead against Albania. Doesn't really change a great deal.
As it stands: 1. Spain 9 (+5) 2. Italy 4 (0) 3. Croatia 2 (-3) 4. Albania 1 (-2)
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jun 24, 2024 20:18:49 GMT 1
Yeah I'm watching Italy v Croatia, although with 3 teams going through in some groups it has taken the magic and jeopardy out of say Italy possibly being eliminated, in previous years they could've gone out tonight but this year they cant go out, makes the group stages duller and knockouts more watered down
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Post by Panda on Jun 24, 2024 21:12:25 GMT 1
Penalty to Croatia!
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Post by Panda on Jun 24, 2024 21:13:30 GMT 1
Saved!
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Post by Panda on Jun 24, 2024 21:15:30 GMT 1
Croatia score seconds later!
As it stands: 1. Spain 9 (+5) 2. Croatia 4 (-2) 3. Italy 3 (-1) 4. Albania 1 (-2)
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Post by Panda on Jun 24, 2024 22:00:59 GMT 1
Group B: ![](https://worldcuptracker.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/alb.gif) Albania 0-1 Spain ![](https://worldcuptracker.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/esp.gif) ![](https://worldcuptracker.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/cro.gif) Croatia 1-1 Italy ![](https://worldcuptracker.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/ita.gif) Table: 1. ![](https://worldcuptracker.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/esp.gif) Spain (Q) 3-9 (+5) 2. ![](https://worldcuptracker.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/ita.gif) Italy (Q) 3-4 (0) 3. ![](https://worldcuptracker.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/cro.gif) Croatia 3-2 (-3) 4. ![](https://worldcuptracker.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/alb.gif) Albania 3-1 (-2) Italy scored a 98th minute equaliser to seal their place in the last 16 and put Croatia on the verge of elimination. Spain finish with maximum points and 3 clean sheets. Tonight's results mean England, Netherlands and France are all definitely through to the last 16.
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Post by Panda on Jun 24, 2024 22:04:23 GMT 1
3rd place table:
1. Austria 2-3 (+1) 2. Slovakia 2-3 (0) 3. Hungary 3-3 (-3) 4. Slovenia 2-2 (0) ----------------------- 5. Croatia 3-2 (-3) 6. Czech Republic 2-1 (-1)
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Post by Panda on Jun 24, 2024 22:08:57 GMT 1
Last 16 as it stands: Spain v Slovakia Germany v Denmark Portugal v Hungary France v Belgium Romania v Slovenia Netherlands v Turkiye England v Austria Switzerland v Italy
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Post by paulgilb on Jun 24, 2024 23:15:05 GMT 1
Italy still awaiting their first win over Croatia since 1942...
Current last 16 draw:
Spain vs D3/E3/F3 Germany vs C2 Portugal vs Hungary/Croatia/C3 D2 vs E2 E1 vs Hungary/C3/D3 D1 vs F2 C1 vs D3/E3/F3 Switzerland vs Italy
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Post by Ligerswubsme007 on Jun 25, 2024 2:08:19 GMT 1
Fingers crossed tonight prove ace team is put other day bed 11-0 do it Com on englandddd 😂
Dogs kooo
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Post by Ligerswubsme007 on Jun 25, 2024 3:50:13 GMT 1
Let’s hope win ease once todsy even get draw suxs Don same germneyyy
Blue whales roxs
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Post by Earl Purple on Jun 25, 2024 9:45:13 GMT 1
The result yesterday means that Scotland would almost certainly have been eliminated even if they'd held on to 0-0, and that Hungary's late winner hurts Croatia even more as they'd have had more chance of getting through with a draw without that goal.
In any case they are relying on England to put a lots of goals past Slovenia as well as Denmark beating Serbia by any scoreline. Croatia's goal-difference is -3 (and Scotland's would have been -4 with a draw). Slovenia have had 2 draws so if they lose by 2 they're better off than Croatia but if they lose by 3 it will be "goals scored" and Croatia have scored 3 and Slovenia 2 at this point, so if it's 3-0 they go out, if it's 5-2 Croatia go out and if it's 4-1 I think it may be down to discipinary record?
And a lot will also depend on the results of Georgia and Czech Republic, who are both on 1 point with games against Portugal and Turkey remaining.
England are guaranteed qualification now even if they lose and finish 3rd in the group (which they would if Denmark win their game). They can't finish 4th.
Although everyone has been disappointed with England's lack of creativity, one the whole we have been solid at the back, and many teams have struggled to win against the smaller teams, scraping through by single goal margins like we did against Serbia. Spain won all 3 of their games but they only beat Albania 1-0.
By the way, the only times I ever recall England winning their opening 2 group games were in 1982 against France and Czechoslovakia (and we beat Kuwait to win all 3 group games) and in 2006 against Paraguay and Trinidad & Tobago, and the latter of those years was not that convincing either.
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Post by Panda on Jun 25, 2024 10:03:48 GMT 1
Spain made 10 changes from the side that beat Italy.
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Post by Panda on Jun 25, 2024 17:09:37 GMT 1
Early goal for Austria against Netherlands...
As it stands: 1. Austria 6 (+2) 2. France 5 (+1) 3. Netherlands 4 (0) 4. Poland 1 (-3)
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Post by Panda on Jun 25, 2024 17:10:37 GMT 1
If Netherlands finish 3rd in this group and England finish top of theirs, it could well be England v Netherlands in the last 16.
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