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Post by Earl Purple on Dec 16, 2007 10:59:19 GMT 1
Hey, penny, don't you have a computer near your TV because we missed your comments last night.
I think Rhydian lost it by becoming too repetitive and not entertaining enough. He was the worst of the 3 during the duets.
What is DS?
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Post by Sauron on Dec 16, 2007 11:01:31 GMT 1
I glad that Leon won in the end, He was my second choice to win after SD
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Post by penny on Dec 16, 2007 11:09:09 GMT 1
Hey, penny, don't you have a computer near your TV because we missed your comments last night. I think Rhydian lost it by becoming too repetitive and not entertaining enough. He was the worst of the 3 during the duets. What is DS? Leon was given an extra 10 minutes voting time after his final song, Rhydian was given precisely 2 minutes. Whatever happened to a level playing field ? Leon sang out of tune most of the time - poor Bing Crosby must have been turning in his grave at his rendition of White Christmas. And right on cue at the end, Leon turned on the tears...........always works But amazing news this morning - Simon Cowell and Andrew Lloyd Webber are in a bidding war to sign The Rhydler - which proves you don`t have to win to be a winner I suspect Leon will disappear while they try to hone him into something like a singer which will probably take about a year DS is Digital Spy
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Post by musicfan2000 on Dec 16, 2007 11:16:35 GMT 1
Hey, penny, don't you have a computer near your TV because we missed your comments last night. I think Rhydian lost it by becoming too repetitive and not entertaining enough. He was the worst of the 3 during the duets. What is DS? Leon was given an extra 10 minutes voting time after his final song, Rhydian was given precisely 2 minutes. Whatever happened to a level playing field ? Leon sang out of tune most of the time - poor Bing Crosby must have been turning in his grave at his rendition of White Christmas. And right on cue at the end, Leon turned on the tears...........always works But amazing news this morning - Simon Cowell and Andrew Lloyd Webber are in a bidding war to sign The Rhydler - which proves you don`t have to win to be a winner I suspect Leon will disappear while they try to hone him into something like a singer which will probably take about a year DS is Digital Spy they have used the same format for 3 years and it has always been the second person to sing who wins so there goes you theory
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Post by penny on Dec 16, 2007 11:26:40 GMT 1
Leon was given an extra 10 minutes voting time after his final song, Rhydian was given precisely 2 minutes. Whatever happened to a level playing field ? Leon sang out of tune most of the time - poor Bing Crosby must have been turning in his grave at his rendition of White Christmas. And right on cue at the end, Leon turned on the tears...........always works But amazing news this morning - Simon Cowell and Andrew Lloyd Webber are in a bidding war to sign The Rhydler - which proves you don`t have to win to be a winner I suspect Leon will disappear while they try to hone him into something like a singer which will probably take about a year DS is Digital Spy they have used the same format for 3 years and it has always been the second person to sing who wins so there goes you theory No, last year they were BOTH given the same amount of time AFTER their final songs before the voting lines closed. Rhydian`s fans had 2 minutes after he had sung
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Post by Sauron on Dec 16, 2007 11:31:22 GMT 1
If people wanted Rhydian to win surely they would have started to vote as soon as the lines opened and not wait until it was his turn to sing
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Post by Earl Purple on Dec 16, 2007 11:37:02 GMT 1
Interesting, I am signed up to DigitalSpy forums and have been for some time but didn't go to post there last night. Perhaps I should have done.
It doesn't surprise me that they want to sign up Rhydian. Gareth Gates and G4 also got signed up after they finished runners-up in their contests. I think if they impress enough they will be signed.
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Post by penny on Dec 16, 2007 11:54:54 GMT 1
If people wanted Rhydian to win surely they would have started to vote as soon as the lines opened and not wait until it was his turn to sing What about all the floating voters who tuned in for the first time last night - they would want to hear him sing first before deciding whether to vote - and they had precisely 2 mins Such an outcry of disgust and disbelief at the result on all the X Factor forums, especially Digital Spy - never seen anything like it.
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Post by Dory on Dec 16, 2007 12:44:20 GMT 1
If people wanted Rhydian to win surely they would have started to vote as soon as the lines opened and not wait until it was his turn to sing I considered it - but couldn't remember what the number was. I don't understand why they didn't have the numbers for both of them scrolling at the bottom of the screen. It ,may have caught a lot of floating voters like me, who were not committed enough to go searching for the web/teletext for numbers or to have written them down earlier. It seem a wasted money making ploy on their behalf.
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Post by jazzieboy on Dec 16, 2007 12:46:22 GMT 1
Thanks Goodness Rhydian didn't win.
I'd be very interested to hear the actual vote %'s, anyone got that information?
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Post by Toy Toy's Boy on Dec 16, 2007 13:31:11 GMT 1
I'm not surprised there's such outcry against Leon. When the votes were so close (almost 1% difference at one point), when one wins, there's going to be an equal number of people rejoycing as there are being bitter and angry.
I can't believe how many conversations I've had with people that go:
Friend: "I can't believe Rhydian didn't win. He really deserved to - Leon didn't."
Me: "Did you vote?"
Friend: "No but that's not the point."
Me: "That's exactly the point! If you wanted him to win, you should've picked up the phone."
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Post by LittleChristmasTurkey on Dec 16, 2007 13:55:28 GMT 1
No, last year they were BOTH given the same amount of time AFTER their final songs before the voting lines closed. Rhydian`s fans had 2 minutes after he had sung Don't be stupid woman, that's not even possible. One of them has to sing the final song first. I think you'll find it's been the same every year.
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Post by rubcale on Dec 16, 2007 14:03:28 GMT 1
I suppose it's rather harsh to judge on one show as we didn't watch it until last night but I think X-Factor has pulled off the impossible - they've actually found someone with even less talent and personality than Shayne Ward.
I thought it showed how low the show has sunk by the way they built up the "national" element to it. Why should someone have been supporting Leon because he was Scottish or Rhdian because he was Welsh? It should have been because they were the best singer or had the X-Factor and IMO they chose they got it wrong.
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Post by penny on Dec 16, 2007 14:23:26 GMT 1
No, last year they were BOTH given the same amount of time AFTER their final songs before the voting lines closed. Rhydian`s fans had 2 minutes after he had sung Don't be stupid woman, that's not even possible. One of them has to sing the final song first. I think you'll find it's been the same every year. Firstly don`t call me stupid. Secondly last year, both contestants sang the winner`s song and THEN both phone lines reopened so both contestants had an equal share of voting time.
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Post by Laurence on Dec 16, 2007 14:25:24 GMT 1
I am flabbergasted by this decision... The idea that Leon is anywhere in the same league as Rhydian is shameful. He is just a dull Buble wannabe who just won because he's cuter and he cried at the right moments. I preferred SD over him because their performance of 'Any Dream will Do' was like being on drugs - so surreal! Mind you, I really think Rhydian will do a G4 and smash Leon's sales in the long term. And he won't have that godawful song to release as his first single. I just can't understand how the public have got it so strikingly and embarrasingly wrong. I was almost in tears over this. But this willl make me become a big supporter of Rhydian in the future because he will have to make it on raw talent and guts.
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Post by Earl Purple on Dec 16, 2007 14:32:21 GMT 1
The really stupid people are those who:
1. Thinks it really matters who wins and that this will decide what happens to them afterwards. 2. Thinks it is more than just Saturday night entertainment.
Rhydian just did not "perform" in the final. Was probably listening too much to the advice of "cut the gimmicks and just stand there and give a straight performance". That worked when they did one song. But when he had to sing 4 songs and made them all sound the same, the public obviously turned against him.
I also think that SD fans may have changed their allegiance to Leon after SD went out, so he may have picked up some votes there. I think many found Rhydian turned rather boring and Leon's duet with Kylie was actually far more entertaining. Why couldn't Rhydian have done an uptempo opera song? Ever heard of Libiamo? Actually I think he needed a better mentor than Dannii, and I don't mean any of the others in that set, I mean someone who knows opera.
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Post by Dory on Dec 16, 2007 14:41:29 GMT 1
I look at bit this way - Rhydian and Same Difference will not be lumbered with that goddawful song forever more.
I think Rhydian will be very successful with musical theatre, and Same Difference will not doubt get some work on children's TV somewhere if they want it.
All 3 will come out of Xfactor with a major career boost.
I agree with Earl Purple that Rhydian's performances last night did not showcase him well (and the duet was hideous). It was all very samey.
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Post by musicfan2000 on Dec 16, 2007 14:57:10 GMT 1
im sure they did the same last year,ray went first and the lines were opened.obv people loved leona better
too many rhydian fans thought he had it in the bag
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Post by Robin on Dec 16, 2007 15:06:53 GMT 1
It's pretty obvious who will be the bigger star. Leon can enjoy his success for now, but I don't think he's got the talent of Leona or Shayne Ward to sustain any long term career, and once the Scots lose interest he's gone! Rhydian meanwhile has the ability to be around for years.
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Post by S1m on Dec 16, 2007 15:18:01 GMT 1
I am actually absolutely appalled at the British public. Leon does NOT have the "X Factor". He is as dull as ditch water, making Lewis Hamilton sound interesting and passionate. His three songs last night were like aural Horlicks and his version of the "winner's" song was the worst. How is he going to be able to ever record new material? He can only cover Buble songs and actually makes Ray Quinn look world-class. I only hope his career follows the trajectory of fellow Scot, Michelle McManus.
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